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Interview with Bisu and Jaedong by Fighterforum.com – “Similar Yet Different”
Original Article
http://gmnews.afreeca.com:8109/app/index.php?board=news_esports&b_no=31418&control=view
Anyone will agree that the best players as of now are SK Telecom T1’s Bisu and Hwaseung Oz’s Jaedong. Incidentally, both players finished the round 4 of the Shinhan Proleague 08-09 with a total tally of 44 wins which makes them the joint leaders of the Proleague player ranking. Their individual league triumphs also tally up to three. The question of “who is closer to bonjwahood” is always a hot issue in Starcraft communities.
Despite sharing their place at the top, the two players are famous for not being too close to each other. Although they keep mentioning that they would like to know each other better in individual league group selection stages or interviews, they have yet to get close to one another due to their timid personality. So one could say that that makes this interview all the more historic.
Awkward First Encounter
The location for the interview, Seu-Rae-Ma-Eul, is where the Hwaseung OZ’s living quarters is situated. Bisu first took his place in the café and waited for a bit, then Jaedong showed up. They exchange greetings, but then an awkward silence filled the air. When asked whether they even say hello to each other, they mentioned that naturally it is common courtesy to do so. Of course the conversation never gets deeper than that as is expected between two individuals who are not close to one another.
The reporter of the interview doesn’t expect things to ease up any time soon. He keeps pestering the two to do something about the situation. It seems that with organization of separate professional Starcraft teams, players from different teams have trouble getting to know each other better. “We usually get close by practicing games. It’s hard to do so by any other measures. It is only after getting to know one another better under certain circumstances such as this interview do we become close.”
Did they practice with each other before then? They never requested practice games personally, but a practice session between the two had been arranged by the team staff before. This happened when Bisu just transferred to SK Telecom T1, so it was over a year ago. Even the number of games they played is only a couple.
As of now, Jaedong is slightly ahead on head to head score. When we asked if things were any different during practice, “I lost all the games” Bisu remarked stiffly. Jaedong laughed awkwardly and mentioned that he thinks he may have lost some of them. It seems Bisu remembers the encounter during practice more clearly.
The most memorable match between the two is the match they had in the Proleague. Bisu won the match on Andromeda with reaver-carriers. It was a bitter defeat for Jaedong. “I thought I had the upper hand after I sniped the first shuttle but I ended up losing. Even my teammates scorned me for losing that way,” Jaedong reminisced. Bisu added “I think he was unaware of my carrier transition,” and Jaedong nodded confirmation.
Unlike the fans who desperate wants more clashes between the two, the players themselves were less keen on the issue. They were ready for any future encounters, but were not anticipating heavily. “I don’t really pay much attention to my opponents. Of course I do enjoy the attention I receive in highly anticipated show downs,” Jaedong remarked rather distantly.
Practice Junkies, As Acknowledged By All
Bisu and Jaedong are notorious for practicing more than it seems possible. When we requested the players to ask one another for anything they were curious about, Bisu was first to draw the sword by asking Jaedong how much they practiced. With Hwaseung Oz’s reputation for Spartan-style practice sessions, it seems Bisu was interested in whether the reputations were all true.
“Back in the days when I practiced a lot, that’s all I did. I got straight back to practicing after I was finished eating, and slept for about 7 hours (calculations show that Jaedong must have practiced for about 15 to 16 hours a day). That’s how things were until I won both individual leagues,” Jaedong recalled. It goes to show how Jaedong’s triumph in both individual leagues didn’t happen by some dumb luck.
Being human, they admitted that they had difficulties maintaining such a schedule. “I physically couldn’t do it anymore (laughs). I tired easily, so I practice around 11 hours a day now,” Jaedong remarked. Bisu, who entered the world of progaming half a year earlier than Jaedong, agreed on the stamina issue. “I can feel my stamina getting weaker by the day. If I feel under the weather on a certain day, I catch the cold the very next. I have to manage my health better,” Bisu pledged.
Jaedong’s question was similar to Bisu’s. He asked Bisu on how he managed to get such good results recently, although it seemed he knew the answer to it already. “Is there anything else? I practiced a lot,” Bisu answered. He added that he thinks he is behind Jaedong in terms of pure practice amounts, and that he had lady luck on his side recently. There is no doubting that the secret behind the two players’ success is their insane practice schedules to complement their ability.
Versus Zerg Specialists
Although they play different races, these two players are famous for their versus zerg match ups. Jaedong was known for his excellent zerg versus zerg since his debut, and Bisu made his mark in history by obliterating the “Plague of Protoss” – Savior - three to zero.
“The beauty of zerg versus zerg comes from the fact that the tiniest things decide the outcome of the game, and the unseen mind games between the players. It is the match up I am most confident in, and have most fun with. It’s fun because I win, and I win because it’s fun. The cycle repeats itself,” Jaedong mentioned on his match up he has been the best in the scene at for several years. Jaedong’s zerg versus zerg ability basically is impregnable, we concluded.
Jaedong actually believed that his zerg versus zerg was not that great in the beginning. We remembered that his first Proleague 5th set deciding match defeat came from a zerg. He actually lost a lot of zerg versus zerg matches during practice, but oddly enough hardly lost on television. “I gained a lot of confidence from that, and started to win a lot during practice also. After that, it’s always been like it is now,” Jaedong mentioned on his incredible mirror match up.
Recently, Bisu has been “unstoppable” in his mirror match up also. However, Bisu will always be known for his zerg killing ability. It is the match up he enjoys the most. “I also was not too confident against zerg when I was a rookie. It’s only after I learned the art of combining different units did I start to enjoy playing against zerg. Actually, I don’t mind which match up I play as long as there are no siege tanks involved (laughs),” Bisu noted.
Being so talented in a certain match up must involve some kind of a secret know-how. When we asked the players if they had any, they both shook their heads.
“I learned this from psychotherapy lessons: none of us knows our trade secrets that well, because it is ingrained within ourselves. We just do it, and it’s hard to explain in words,” Bisu mentioned, with references to SK Telecome T1 arranged psychotherapy lessons he’d been receiving.
Jaedong’s answer was simpler. “I don’t think it’s like that for me. I really don’t have any,” he remarked. Was practice the key once again?
Being Enlisted To The Army and Starcraft 2 – Issues That Need A Lot Of Thought
Every progamer in the scene has at one time or another given some thought about when to attend to their military duties to their country and whether they should switch to playing Starcraft 2 when it comes out. Bisu and Jaedong are no exception.
Bisu, in particular, seemed to given the topic a lot of thought what with his friend Ruby recently being enlisted to the army. “I was envious of Ruby performing his military duties so early. I’ve heard that it gets harder the later you enlist. I’m concerned already,” he expressed his worries. Bisu has been given a grade 2 on his physical examination, and has been deemed fit enough to perform his military duties in full terms. He actually got a warrant to join the army in November, but like everybody else, he is planning on delaying the date.
Jaedong, being born in January 1990, hasn’t even been given a physical examination. However, with his friends his age already performing their military services, he is worried about the topic also. “Almost all my friends are already in the army. I am the only one left behind, and I worry about it constantly. I haven’t planned on exactly when to join yet though,” Jaedong remarked.
Bisu, being a year older than Jaedong (not really though), had a lot more to say on the issue of Starcraft 2. “The market is too small to concentrate only on Brood War. When Starcraft 2 comes out, it will hit the entire world by storm, and Korea will be forced to join in. I think I’ll be playing it also. For e-Sports, I think Brood War is more suitable, but the world trend will be hard to buck,” Bisu mused. Jaedong, on the other hand, didn’t know to think exactly since he felt that Starcraft 2 was a completely different game from Brood War.
Rivals
These two players have yet to face one another on a major stage, but whether it’s for the race for getting most number of victories in the Proleague or getting the title of “bonjwa” first – whether they want to title or not – they’re locked in a tight competition against each other, so they can be called rivals. They even are battling for the top spot in the Kespa rankings.
“I personally feel some rivalry between us. People keep comparing the two of us and we have similar rankings,” Jaedong, the more buttoned up of the two replied shortly. Bisu, however, thought differently. “I think Stork matches the title of my rival better. For me at least, Jaedong is more of a rival with Flash,” he concluded. With the two players both performing as well as each other for the first time, it seems the title of rivals seems a little awkward to be put in use as of now.
However, it cannot be denied that Hwaseung Oz and SK Telecom T1 are rivals. Hwaseung Oz is currently at the top, with SK Telecom T1 closely behind. When asked what their goals were for the remaining part of this season, Bisu stated without any hesitation “being first placed in the Proleague”, while Jaedong added “whoever plays better will finish first” and mentioned that it will be a race to the finish. It was the first time in this interview that the rivalry between the two really fired up. When asked about the new map “Shadow Of Twilight”, they both answered “we don’t know exactly” and laughed awkwardly.
We then focused on their goals for the upcoming individual leagues. They both answered rather disappointingly that they haven’t given it a lot of thought since it hadn’t begun yet. Perhaps they were reluctant to state their desire to win since they were right in front of each other.
An hour had passed already. We decided to start wrapping up the interview what with both players having such tight schedules. Bisu seemed a little surprised that it was over already. Although it was too short a time to get to know each other fully, this interview had done its job as starting off what could be a lifelong friendship between the two; the rest is in their hands now.
Bisu concluded the interview by saying that he wishes the best of luck for Jaedong and himself. It seemed that he wanted to meet Jaedong in the most important of stages. Jaedong replied by saying they should get to know each other better by practicing more with each other. With a showdown between the two in the finals of some competition becoming more and more inevitable, we end the interview hoping these two players are closer now than before.
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Dear Letmelose:
Please don't post amazing and long interviews with my two favourite players when I have a shitload of homework to do.
Sincerely,
anderoo
+ Show Spoiler + ty for translation! <33333
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United States11390 Posts
Awesome. Thanks~
“The beauty of zerg versus zerg comes from the fact that the tiniest things decide the outcome of the game, and the unseen mind games between the players. It is the match up I am most confident in, and have most fun with. It’s fun because I win, and I win because it’s fun. The cycle repeats itself,
zvz love <3
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On May 29 2009 09:19 Letmelose wrote:
Interview with Bisu and Jaedong by Fighterforum.com – “Similar Yet Different”
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As of now, Jaedong is slightly ahead on head to head score. When we asked if things were any different during practice, “I lost all the games” Bisu remarked stiffly.
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OMG! Jaedong > Bisu !!!11!1!!!"!oneone!!!1
Sick article, thanks a bunch for the translation!
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On May 29 2009 09:26 anderoo wrote:Dear Letmelose: Please don't post amazing and long interviews with my two favourite players when I have a shitload of homework to do. Sincerely, anderoo + Show Spoiler + ty for translation! <33333
Dude same here! I was like...okay..I fucking need to start studying now since I've slacked off for the last 4 hours and BAM this interview hits me....But every second was worth it xD
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Woah... amazing article, great translation. Thank you so much.
Bisu and Jaedong are so cool.
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9070 Posts
Great translation, thanks a lot !
To be honest I want those two to hate each other, screw the taekbang BFF stuff
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konadora
Singapore66158 Posts
Jaedong > Bisu. Why am I not surprised 
Thanks for translation! (When I click the link, it says 'Reported Attacked Site!' lol)
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thanks for the translation! jaedong seems so shy! :o
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Wow.
Of all progamers (barring the emperor Himself), these two are generally the most emotional, arrogant, blunt, and generally likeable characters. They're practically kings in front of the media.
Apparently not so much in front of each other. I wonder if they're just waiting for the other person to make a move (as in the team discussion), or they just have quite a bit of respect for each other.
EDIT: Or none at all, there's also that
THANKS FOR THE TRANSLATION!
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ty for the translation Letmelos :D
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i find bisu's comparison of bisu/stork and jaedong/flash pretty interesting... havent looked at it that way up until now.
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Awesome interview, thanks for the translation
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Great translation thanks~
I find it kind of sad the article completely ignored the GOM special between the players... Says a lot about GOM's image even if it was only a special event...
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Thanks!
I hate seige tanks as well
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
Actually, I don’t mind which match up I play as long as there are no siege tanks involved (laughs),” Bisu noted.
siege tank imba.
Jaedong, on the other hand, didn’t know to think exactly since he felt that Starcraft 2 was a completely game from Brood War.
You mean completely different game right?
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Great interview, even if it came across kinda awkward because of their stiff responses to each other. They both open up much more when they're being interviewed alone.
Thanks for the translation.
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haha nice interview
thanks
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I was going to start my homework and I saw this, hahaha. SOOO worth the read.
Thanks!
On May 29 2009 10:00 Highways wrote:Thanks! I hate seige tanks as well
Psh I <3 seige tanks :3
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Thanks for ze amazing Interview <3
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Damn that's so wicked Letmelose! Another amazing translation. I don't find it odd that they both aren't close to each other if they were, we'd lose the grudges between them
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Hopefully these two don't start practicing with each other all the time. Starcraft wouldn't be as interesting if these guys became so good they never lose!
(And then when they play each other the world explodes.)
Thanks a lot for the translation!
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Katowice25012 Posts
This interview rules, thanks
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thanks for the translation!
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On May 29 2009 09:46 miseiler wrote:Wow. Of all progamers (barring the emperor Himself), these two are generally the most emotional, arrogant, blunt, and generally likeable characters. They're practically kings in front of the media. Apparently not so much in front of each other. I wonder if they're just waiting for the other person to make a move (as in the team discussion), or they just have quite a bit of respect for each other. EDIT: Or none at all, there's also that THANKS FOR THE TRANSLATION!
I think maybe they feel that their words are being viewed under a magnifying glass and if they say something even slightly arrogant, everyone's going to hop on them for it.
And that's true for at least Bisu. Bisu shows the slightest hint of confidence and everyone jumps on him and calls him an arrogant bastard.
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Nice interview, thanks for the translation. Watching this two fight in the future should be a treat.
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Sorry but isnt Bisu 4 - 3 Jaedong?
Bisu
2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 2
JD
2007 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
2008-09 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague
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United States11390 Posts
On May 29 2009 11:11 danieldrsa wrote:
Sorry but isnt Bisu 4 - 3 Jaedong?
Bisu
2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 2
JD
2007 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
2008-09 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague
No, this is the correct.
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Andromeda Win
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Colosseum II Win
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Medusa Loss
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Destination Win
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Andromeda Loss
+ 09-02-28 Shinhan Winners League Neo Harmony Loss
+ 08-12-23 Shinhan Proleague 08-09 Destination Win
+ 08-06-28 Shinhan08 Proleague Andromeda Loss
+ 08-05-01 Arena MSL 2008 Colosseum Win
+ 08-05-01 Arena MSL 2008 Othello Win
+ 08-01-08 GOMTV MSL S4 Blue Storm Win
+ 07-03-10 2007 2nd KeSPA Cup Sin Peaks of Baekdu Loss
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United States13143 Posts
On May 29 2009 11:11 danieldrsa wrote:
Sorry but isnt Bisu 4 - 3 Jaedong?
Bisu
2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 2
JD
2007 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
2008-09 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague
Koreans don't seem to care about the Averatec-Intel Classic very much.
Thanks for the translation
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Man, that game on Andromeda is my favorite game where Jaedong loses. 11 hours a day, good to see they know how to manage their health. It's also nice that they know that the other is working just as hard, so they're always motivated.
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Thanks for the translation!
It has been my favorite read in the last couple weeks!!
Big ups!
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Great interview. Kinda amusing at how little interaction they've had before this.
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Thanks, very nice interview!
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On May 29 2009 11:11 danieldrsa wrote:
Sorry but isnt Bisu 4 - 3 Jaedong?
Bisu
2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 2
JD
2007 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
2008-09 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague
JD also won GOMTV Intel Classic Season 1...
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On May 29 2009 11:11 danieldrsa wrote:
Sorry but isnt Bisu 4 - 3 Jaedong?
Bisu
2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 2
JD
2007 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
2008-09 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague
You include Bisu's win of GOM season 2, but ignore JD's win of GOM season 1.
Why?
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United States11390 Posts
On May 29 2009 12:04 BWdero wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2009 11:11 danieldrsa wrote:
Sorry but isnt Bisu 4 - 3 Jaedong?
Bisu
2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 2
JD
2007 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
2008-09 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague You include Bisu's win of GOM season 2, but ignore JD's win of GOM season 1. Why?
He also forgot JD winning WCG Korea too.
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On May 29 2009 10:19 Kentor wrote:Show nested quote +Actually, I don’t mind which match up I play as long as there are no siege tanks involved (laughs),” Bisu noted. siege tank imba. Show nested quote +Jaedong, on the other hand, didn’t know to think exactly since he felt that Starcraft 2 was a completely game from Brood War. You mean completely different game right?
Yup. It's fixed now.
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pics or it didnt happen.
also, didnt JD win GOM classic 1 and 2?
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Thanks for this. Awesome interview!
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On May 29 2009 12:23 omninmo wrote:
pics or it didnt happen.
also, didnt JD win GOM classic 1 and 2?
JD never played Bisu in GOM classic 2. He was knocked out by Tempest pretty early on.
Bisu won Classic 2 vs. JangBi
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is awesome32274 Posts
Thanks Letmelose! you rawk
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On May 29 2009 12:29 AlTheCake wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2009 12:23 omninmo wrote:
pics or it didnt happen.
also, didnt JD win GOM classic 1 and 2? JD never played Bisu in GOM classic 2. He was knocked out by Tempest pretty early on. Bisu won Classic 2 vs. JangBi
You might be thinking about the special GOM match between them.
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China3334 Posts
Thanks for the translation. This is awesome for sure!
I can sense the awkwardness between the two by just reading the interview title, haha....Bisu is lack of the character of being celebrity even if he looks like one. He's not a good talker, he rarely shows any emotion, he answers most questions in a boring manner (oh, excluding the map complaint). From what I've seen, his most emotional moment as a progamer is not getting any of his three titles, instead, it's when he was leaving MBC and literally cried like a baby.
Don't let me down again. I wish for a Bisu-JD final as always.
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Wow, you can feel the awkwardness...
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On May 29 2009 11:13 Harem wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2009 11:11 danieldrsa wrote:
Sorry but isnt Bisu 4 - 3 Jaedong?
Bisu
2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 2
JD
2007 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
2008-09 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague No, this is the correct. Show nested quote ++ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Andromeda Win
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Colosseum II Win
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Medusa Loss
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Destination Win
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Andromeda Loss
+ 09-02-28 Shinhan Winners League Neo Harmony Loss
+ 08-12-23 Shinhan Proleague 08-09 Destination Win
+ 08-06-28 Shinhan08 Proleague Andromeda Loss
+ 08-05-01 Arena MSL 2008 Colosseum Win
+ 08-05-01 Arena MSL 2008 Othello Win
+ 08-01-08 GOMTV MSL S4 Blue Storm Win
+ 07-03-10 2007 2nd KeSPA Cup Sin Peaks of Baekdu Loss
What is that? Wins/Loss ? Im talking of titles
On May 29 2009 12:04 Jaksiel wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2009 11:11 danieldrsa wrote:
Sorry but isnt Bisu 4 - 3 Jaedong?
Bisu
2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 2
JD
2007 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
2008-09 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague JD also won GOMTV Intel Classic Season 1...
Yup, you´re right, i forgot TG-Intel Classic 2008 Season 1, so they are 4-4
On May 29 2009 12:10 Harem wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2009 12:04 BWdero wrote:On May 29 2009 11:11 danieldrsa wrote:
Sorry but isnt Bisu 4 - 3 Jaedong?
Bisu
2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 2
JD
2007 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
2008-09 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague You include Bisu's win of GOM season 2, but ignore JD's win of GOM season 1. Why? He also forgot JD winning WCG Korea too.
No, as far as i know, WCG is not considered for titles. Its not considered a Starleague (there is a thread explaining this but i dont remember where it is now).
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On May 29 2009 13:15 danieldrsa wrote:
No, as far as i know, WCG is not considered for titles. Its not considered a Starleague (there is a thread explaining this but i dont remember where it is now).
Given that the article said they were 3 apiece I'd say it's a safe bet GOM isn't considered as such either.
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yeah well I hate zealots, shut up bisu 
<3 jaedong
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edit: accidental double post
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China3334 Posts
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Whoa nice pics!
Too bad the first pic must have been way too awkward for them to do
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Good to see Bisu as the canadian lumberjack.
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United States11637 Posts
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great interview wish there was video footage but i really enjoyed reading it thx
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Daaaaaaaamn Jaedong has style!
+ Show Spoiler +On May 29 2009 13:50 boesthius wrote:![[image loading]](http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1301/middleimg3436.jpg) jaedong: do the bisu build.. ..inside me.
hahahaha
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China3334 Posts
On May 29 2009 13:52 HatchetWound wrote:
great interview wish there was video footage but i really enjoyed reading it thx
It would be more awkward to see it in video because: (from the interviewer)
[지현/karma] says:
I asked them to question each other
but there was long silence and hesitaion (...)
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
jaedong getting a double chin?
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On May 29 2009 13:50 boesthius wrote:jaedong: do the bisu build.. ..inside me.
Hahaha
Cheers for translation.
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As long as there are no siege tanks involved.
Hahaha
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Actually, I don’t mind which match up I play as long as there are no siege tanks involved (laughs)
agreed. haha
awesome translation! thanks a bunch ^-^
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On May 29 2009 13:50 boesthius wrote:jaedong: do the bisu build.. ..inside me.
Hahaha +9999 !!!
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On May 29 2009 13:50 boesthius wrote:jaedong: do the bisu build.. ..inside me.
Haha, lol'd irl. Nice!
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United States4126 Posts
I wonder how much better their ZvP/PvZ would be if they actually practiced with eachother all the time.
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United States12607 Posts
freaking awesome article/interview...
thanks so much for another great translation, Letmelose!
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On May 29 2009 14:33 Kinky wrote:
I wonder how much better their ZvP/PvZ would be if they actually practiced with eachother all the time.
actually I don't know if thats in their best interest. Even though they have taken ZvP / PvZ to the highest level, differing players have slightly different style. But it would still improve their skills nevertheless i guess
On May 29 2009 13:50 boesthius wrote:jaedong: do the bisu build.. ..inside me.
roflcoptor!!!
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Tx.
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On May 29 2009 13:15 danieldrsa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2009 11:13 Harem wrote:On May 29 2009 11:11 danieldrsa wrote:
Sorry but isnt Bisu 4 - 3 Jaedong?
Bisu
2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 2
JD
2007 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
2008-09 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague No, this is the correct. + 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Andromeda Win
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Colosseum II Win
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Medusa Loss
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Destination Win
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Andromeda Loss
+ 09-02-28 Shinhan Winners League Neo Harmony Loss
+ 08-12-23 Shinhan Proleague 08-09 Destination Win
+ 08-06-28 Shinhan08 Proleague Andromeda Loss
+ 08-05-01 Arena MSL 2008 Colosseum Win
+ 08-05-01 Arena MSL 2008 Othello Win
+ 08-01-08 GOMTV MSL S4 Blue Storm Win
+ 07-03-10 2007 2nd KeSPA Cup Sin Peaks of Baekdu Loss What is that? Wins/Loss ? Im talking of titles Show nested quote +On May 29 2009 12:04 Jaksiel wrote:On May 29 2009 11:11 danieldrsa wrote:
Sorry but isnt Bisu 4 - 3 Jaedong?
Bisu
2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 2
JD
2007 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
2008-09 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague JD also won GOMTV Intel Classic Season 1... Yup, you´re right, i forgot TG-Intel Classic 2008 Season 1, so they are 4-4 Show nested quote +On May 29 2009 12:10 Harem wrote:On May 29 2009 12:04 BWdero wrote:On May 29 2009 11:11 danieldrsa wrote:
Sorry but isnt Bisu 4 - 3 Jaedong?
Bisu
2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 2
JD
2007 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
2008-09 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague You include Bisu's win of GOM season 2, but ignore JD's win of GOM season 1. Why? He also forgot JD winning WCG Korea too. No, as far as i know, WCG is not considered for titles. Its not considered a Starleague (there is a thread explaining this but i dont remember where it is now).
jaedong osl 2 titles
bisu osl:0
the rest is all just farts in a tornado
*edit* gom isnt sanctioned, hence not a starleague.
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Thanks for the translation! These guys are so hardcore, wow.
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Thanks for the translation!
I guess entering the military right when sc2 comes out could be a good call for Bisu. Let the rest of the world plow through the first couple years of balance changes, bug fixes and strategy evolution... come back when it is more established.
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Thx fort he Translation.
I'm starting to think that progamers are the biggest morons on this planet.
It's like:
Zero personality, practice, practice, humble, humble, practice, practice, awkward, awkward, practice, practice.
Seriously, I just see mindless robots.
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On May 29 2009 11:11 danieldrsa wrote:
Sorry but isnt Bisu 4 - 3 Jaedong?
Bisu
2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 2
JD
2007 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
2008-09 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague
You forgot that JD won GOM Season 1 himself so its actually 4-4
Great interview, awesome read. JD wasnt lying I guess about his ZvP being as half as good in practice.
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konadora
Singapore66158 Posts
On May 29 2009 13:50 boesthius wrote:jaedong: do the bisu build.. ..inside me.
;DDDDDDD
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Russian Federation1612 Posts
"Actually, I don’t mind which match up I play as long as there are no siege tanks involved (laughs),” Bisu noted.
Lol, siege tanks IMBA! ;D
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Thanks for the eloquent translation! Please, no more of that pic, it's so awkward and terrible.
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United States11637 Posts
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thanks a lot for the translation
it must be real hard to be a progamer interviewer, you don't really get many good answers to work with
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On May 29 2009 15:31 Velr wrote:
Thx fort he Translation.
I'm starting to think that progamers are the biggest morons on this planet.
It's like:
Zero personality, practice, practice, humble, humble, practice, practice, awkward, awkward, practice, practice.
Seriously, I just see mindless robots.
firebathero?
You see mindless robots because you are a poopyhead.
Anyway thanks for the translation! these guys are awesome
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this is awesome!!! epicness!!! haven't read it though coz it's quite long but thanks. thanks so much for the translation
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On May 29 2009 18:47 MuR)Ernu wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2009 15:31 Velr wrote:
Thx fort he Translation.
I'm starting to think that progamers are the biggest morons on this planet.
It's like:
Zero personality, practice, practice, humble, humble, practice, practice, awkward, awkward, practice, practice.
Seriously, I just see mindless robots.
firebathero? You see mindless robots because you are a poopyhead. Anyway thanks for the translation! these guys are awesome
Wow, the one guy that instuled ONE of his enemys in a way that most people wouldn't even feel really insulted...
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Thanks for translating this. Jaedong is my favorite player (and Bisu is a very worthy opponent); I admire his hard work and dedication, so I really appreciate the work you did to let me and others enjoy this interview with him.
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On May 29 2009 15:07 piratebay wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2009 13:15 danieldrsa wrote:On May 29 2009 11:13 Harem wrote:On May 29 2009 11:11 danieldrsa wrote:
Sorry but isnt Bisu 4 - 3 Jaedong?
Bisu
2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 2
JD
2007 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
2008-09 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague No, this is the correct. + 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Andromeda Win
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Colosseum II Win
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Medusa Loss
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Destination Win
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Andromeda Loss
+ 09-02-28 Shinhan Winners League Neo Harmony Loss
+ 08-12-23 Shinhan Proleague 08-09 Destination Win
+ 08-06-28 Shinhan08 Proleague Andromeda Loss
+ 08-05-01 Arena MSL 2008 Colosseum Win
+ 08-05-01 Arena MSL 2008 Othello Win
+ 08-01-08 GOMTV MSL S4 Blue Storm Win
+ 07-03-10 2007 2nd KeSPA Cup Sin Peaks of Baekdu Loss What is that? Wins/Loss ? Im talking of titles On May 29 2009 12:04 Jaksiel wrote:On May 29 2009 11:11 danieldrsa wrote:
Sorry but isnt Bisu 4 - 3 Jaedong?
Bisu
2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 2
JD
2007 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
2008-09 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague JD also won GOMTV Intel Classic Season 1... Yup, you´re right, i forgot TG-Intel Classic 2008 Season 1, so they are 4-4 On May 29 2009 12:10 Harem wrote:On May 29 2009 12:04 BWdero wrote:On May 29 2009 11:11 danieldrsa wrote:
Sorry but isnt Bisu 4 - 3 Jaedong?
Bisu
2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 2
JD
2007 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
2008-09 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague You include Bisu's win of GOM season 2, but ignore JD's win of GOM season 1. Why? He also forgot JD winning WCG Korea too. No, as far as i know, WCG is not considered for titles. Its not considered a Starleague (there is a thread explaining this but i dont remember where it is now). jaedong osl 2 titles bisu osl:0 the rest is all just farts in a tornado *edit* gom isnt sanctioned, hence not a starleague.
Sorry, but to me saying that MSL is not a title is lame to me. Although some ppl like to say that, MSL have the same skilled players, maps, and is bo5 when it does really matter.
Bisu 3-0 Savior on a MSL worth 3 OSLs if you ask me. JD not bonjwa, Savior was Bonjwa at that time.
On May 29 2009 16:22 samachking wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2009 11:11 danieldrsa wrote:
Sorry but isnt Bisu 4 - 3 Jaedong?
Bisu
2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 2
JD
2007 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
2008-09 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague You forgot that JD won GOM Season 1 himself so its actually 4-4 Great interview, awesome read. JD wasnt lying I guess about his ZvP being as half as good in practice.
read the entire thread, ive alredy made the corretion on a later post 
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I think one of the reasons they're like this, is because when Jaedong or Bisu is around anyone else, they'll be super confident since they know they're better. However when they're with each other that confidence is replaced with uncertainty.
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On May 29 2009 19:58 Velr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2009 18:47 MuR)Ernu wrote:On May 29 2009 15:31 Velr wrote:
Thx fort he Translation.
I'm starting to think that progamers are the biggest morons on this planet.
It's like:
Zero personality, practice, practice, humble, humble, practice, practice, awkward, awkward, practice, practice.
Seriously, I just see mindless robots.
firebathero? You see mindless robots because you are a poopyhead. Anyway thanks for the translation! these guys are awesome Wow, the one guy that instuled ONE of his enemys in a way that most people wouldn't even feel really insulted...
How'd you like to get owned, have the guy who beat you dance around you while you sulk in your loss, then have his crotch thrusted in your face several times without you being able to do anything about it?
Yeah... most people wouldn't get insulted by that
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On May 29 2009 19:58 Velr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2009 18:47 MuR)Ernu wrote:On May 29 2009 15:31 Velr wrote:
Thx fort he Translation.
I'm starting to think that progamers are the biggest morons on this planet.
It's like:
Zero personality, practice, practice, humble, humble, practice, practice, awkward, awkward, practice, practice.
Seriously, I just see mindless robots.
firebathero? You see mindless robots because you are a poopyhead. Anyway thanks for the translation! these guys are awesome Wow, the one guy that instuled ONE of his enemys in a way that most people wouldn't even feel really insulted...
Yeah man, everyone strips publicly and goes swimming after winning a match, I bet you'd do it too!
Also about Bisu and JD practice, wasn't it back when JD was unbeatable and Bisu was slumping? So even if JD beat Bisu every game, it's not really any proof that he > Bisu. Although he still is better than Bisu, just not because of that.
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This was soo awesome! Thank you so much for translating!
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pripple
Finland1714 Posts
sweet translation, thanks a lot =)
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Man such a good interview... Jaedong and bisu the current n1 and n2 of SC =D
Thx for your time translanting this!
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I forgot to thank for the translation,
so thanks
Bisu>>>JD without a doubt
ppl who say hes arrogant need to see this interview, he does not think twice to say he lost to JD a lot in practice
And that doesnt mean nothing, as JD said he lost a lot in practices but won in TV games, which build up his confidence
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United States1865 Posts
On May 29 2009 23:19 danieldrsa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2009 15:07 piratebay wrote:On May 29 2009 13:15 danieldrsa wrote:On May 29 2009 11:13 Harem wrote:On May 29 2009 11:11 danieldrsa wrote:
Sorry but isnt Bisu 4 - 3 Jaedong?
Bisu
2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 2
JD
2007 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
2008-09 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague No, this is the correct. + 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Andromeda Win
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Colosseum II Win
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Medusa Loss
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Destination Win
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Andromeda Loss
+ 09-02-28 Shinhan Winners League Neo Harmony Loss
+ 08-12-23 Shinhan Proleague 08-09 Destination Win
+ 08-06-28 Shinhan08 Proleague Andromeda Loss
+ 08-05-01 Arena MSL 2008 Colosseum Win
+ 08-05-01 Arena MSL 2008 Othello Win
+ 08-01-08 GOMTV MSL S4 Blue Storm Win
+ 07-03-10 2007 2nd KeSPA Cup Sin Peaks of Baekdu Loss What is that? Wins/Loss ? Im talking of titles On May 29 2009 12:04 Jaksiel wrote:On May 29 2009 11:11 danieldrsa wrote:
Sorry but isnt Bisu 4 - 3 Jaedong?
Bisu
2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 2
JD
2007 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
2008-09 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague JD also won GOMTV Intel Classic Season 1... Yup, you´re right, i forgot TG-Intel Classic 2008 Season 1, so they are 4-4 On May 29 2009 12:10 Harem wrote:On May 29 2009 12:04 BWdero wrote:On May 29 2009 11:11 danieldrsa wrote:
Sorry but isnt Bisu 4 - 3 Jaedong?
Bisu
2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 2
JD
2007 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
2008-09 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague You include Bisu's win of GOM season 2, but ignore JD's win of GOM season 1. Why? He also forgot JD winning WCG Korea too. No, as far as i know, WCG is not considered for titles. Its not considered a Starleague (there is a thread explaining this but i dont remember where it is now). jaedong osl 2 titles bisu osl:0 the rest is all just farts in a tornado *edit* gom isnt sanctioned, hence not a starleague. Sorry, but to me saying that MSL is not a title is lame to me. Although some ppl like to say that, MSL have the same skilled players, maps, and is bo5 when it does really matter. Bisu 3-0 Savior on a MSL worth 3 OSLs if you ask me. JD not bonjwa, Savior was Bonjwa at that time.
![[image loading]](http://i42.tinypic.com/hryand.jpg)
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Lol danieldrsa can't help his fanboyism so yeah they're pretty much equall
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I think they are both pretty equal. I think OSL has greater prizes, hence more effort to win but not much difference there. Luxury example is pretty bad since he had a relatively easy road to MSL title recently.
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United States11390 Posts
rofl atrioc
that pic is amazing
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The mention of the psychotherapy is absolutely fascinating, haha
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On May 29 2009 19:58 Velr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2009 18:47 MuR)Ernu wrote:On May 29 2009 15:31 Velr wrote:
Thx fort he Translation.
I'm starting to think that progamers are the biggest morons on this planet.
It's like:
Zero personality, practice, practice, humble, humble, practice, practice, awkward, awkward, practice, practice.
Seriously, I just see mindless robots.
firebathero? You see mindless robots because you are a poopyhead. Anyway thanks for the translation! these guys are awesome Wow, the one guy that instuled ONE of his enemys in a way that most people wouldn't even feel really insulted...
post a video of yourself taking your shirt off and running around doing stupid shit in front of thousands of asains on tv and we wont call you out for hypocrisy.
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is awesome32274 Posts
On May 30 2009 02:55 Atrioc wrote:
ROFL so good
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Only Jaedong and Bisu can make an interview so epic while only staring at each other awkwardly half the time : )
Thanks for the translation!
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On May 30 2009 02:55 Atrioc wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2009 23:19 danieldrsa wrote:On May 29 2009 15:07 piratebay wrote:On May 29 2009 13:15 danieldrsa wrote:On May 29 2009 11:13 Harem wrote:On May 29 2009 11:11 danieldrsa wrote:
Sorry but isnt Bisu 4 - 3 Jaedong?
Bisu
2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 2
JD
2007 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
2008-09 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague No, this is the correct. + 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Andromeda Win
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Colosseum II Win
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Medusa Loss
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Destination Win
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Andromeda Loss
+ 09-02-28 Shinhan Winners League Neo Harmony Loss
+ 08-12-23 Shinhan Proleague 08-09 Destination Win
+ 08-06-28 Shinhan08 Proleague Andromeda Loss
+ 08-05-01 Arena MSL 2008 Colosseum Win
+ 08-05-01 Arena MSL 2008 Othello Win
+ 08-01-08 GOMTV MSL S4 Blue Storm Win
+ 07-03-10 2007 2nd KeSPA Cup Sin Peaks of Baekdu Loss What is that? Wins/Loss ? Im talking of titles On May 29 2009 12:04 Jaksiel wrote:On May 29 2009 11:11 danieldrsa wrote:
Sorry but isnt Bisu 4 - 3 Jaedong?
Bisu
2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 2
JD
2007 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
2008-09 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague JD also won GOMTV Intel Classic Season 1... Yup, you´re right, i forgot TG-Intel Classic 2008 Season 1, so they are 4-4 On May 29 2009 12:10 Harem wrote:On May 29 2009 12:04 BWdero wrote:On May 29 2009 11:11 danieldrsa wrote:
Sorry but isnt Bisu 4 - 3 Jaedong?
Bisu
2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 2
JD
2007 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
2008-09 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague You include Bisu's win of GOM season 2, but ignore JD's win of GOM season 1. Why? He also forgot JD winning WCG Korea too. No, as far as i know, WCG is not considered for titles. Its not considered a Starleague (there is a thread explaining this but i dont remember where it is now). jaedong osl 2 titles bisu osl:0 the rest is all just farts in a tornado *edit* gom isnt sanctioned, hence not a starleague. Sorry, but to me saying that MSL is not a title is lame to me. Although some ppl like to say that, MSL have the same skilled players, maps, and is bo5 when it does really matter. Bisu 3-0 Savior on a MSL worth 3 OSLs if you ask me. JD not bonjwa, Savior was Bonjwa at that time.
LOOL, at the this is gogo sign ROFL
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On May 30 2009 02:55 Atrioc wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2009 23:19 danieldrsa wrote:On May 29 2009 15:07 piratebay wrote:On May 29 2009 13:15 danieldrsa wrote:On May 29 2009 11:13 Harem wrote:On May 29 2009 11:11 danieldrsa wrote:
Sorry but isnt Bisu 4 - 3 Jaedong?
Bisu
2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 2
JD
2007 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
2008-09 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague No, this is the correct. + 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Andromeda Win
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Colosseum II Win
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Medusa Loss
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Destination Win
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Andromeda Loss
+ 09-02-28 Shinhan Winners League Neo Harmony Loss
+ 08-12-23 Shinhan Proleague 08-09 Destination Win
+ 08-06-28 Shinhan08 Proleague Andromeda Loss
+ 08-05-01 Arena MSL 2008 Colosseum Win
+ 08-05-01 Arena MSL 2008 Othello Win
+ 08-01-08 GOMTV MSL S4 Blue Storm Win
+ 07-03-10 2007 2nd KeSPA Cup Sin Peaks of Baekdu Loss What is that? Wins/Loss ? Im talking of titles On May 29 2009 12:04 Jaksiel wrote:On May 29 2009 11:11 danieldrsa wrote:
Sorry but isnt Bisu 4 - 3 Jaedong?
Bisu
2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 2
JD
2007 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
2008-09 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague JD also won GOMTV Intel Classic Season 1... Yup, you´re right, i forgot TG-Intel Classic 2008 Season 1, so they are 4-4 On May 29 2009 12:10 Harem wrote:On May 29 2009 12:04 BWdero wrote:On May 29 2009 11:11 danieldrsa wrote:
Sorry but isnt Bisu 4 - 3 Jaedong?
Bisu
2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 2
JD
2007 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
2008-09 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague You include Bisu's win of GOM season 2, but ignore JD's win of GOM season 1. Why? He also forgot JD winning WCG Korea too. No, as far as i know, WCG is not considered for titles. Its not considered a Starleague (there is a thread explaining this but i dont remember where it is now). jaedong osl 2 titles bisu osl:0 the rest is all just farts in a tornado *edit* gom isnt sanctioned, hence not a starleague. Sorry, but to me saying that MSL is not a title is lame to me. Although some ppl like to say that, MSL have the same skilled players, maps, and is bo5 when it does really matter. Bisu 3-0 Savior on a MSL worth 3 OSLs if you ask me. JD not bonjwa, Savior was Bonjwa at that time.
HAHAHAHA WIN!!!
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wow...jaedong is such a pimp, how can you not like him, great personality, so ambitious, hardworking, passionate, wow just wow
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The true Irony of the Artoic picture is the "OSL curse", did anyone hear of that?
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Atrioc,
awesome picture.
I had to comment on it =).
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On May 30 2009 02:55 Atrioc wrote:
Rofl, this is so good I must quote it again.
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i honestly dont understand that atrioc picture :O
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Thanks for the translation.
They seem really really awkward.
(lol @ that osl vs msl thing...)
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Russian Federation134 Posts
that was a great read
it seems bisu is a bit more 'humble' (idra pun) compared to jaedong
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whats that new map "shadow of twilight" they are talking about? do they mean "shades of twilight"? or are they different maps
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On May 30 2009 02:55 ichimarugin680 wrote:
Lol danieldrsa can't help his fanboyism so yeah they're pretty much equall
yeah, after seeing so many zergs here i need to put out the flames with some gasoline
But to be honest, i agree with you, they are even
On May 30 2009 02:55 Atrioc wrote:Show nested quote +On May 29 2009 23:19 danieldrsa wrote:On May 29 2009 15:07 piratebay wrote:On May 29 2009 13:15 danieldrsa wrote:On May 29 2009 11:13 Harem wrote:On May 29 2009 11:11 danieldrsa wrote:
Sorry but isnt Bisu 4 - 3 Jaedong?
Bisu
2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 2
JD
2007 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
2008-09 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague No, this is the correct. + 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Andromeda Win
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Colosseum II Win
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Medusa Loss
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Destination Win
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Andromeda Loss
+ 09-02-28 Shinhan Winners League Neo Harmony Loss
+ 08-12-23 Shinhan Proleague 08-09 Destination Win
+ 08-06-28 Shinhan08 Proleague Andromeda Loss
+ 08-05-01 Arena MSL 2008 Colosseum Win
+ 08-05-01 Arena MSL 2008 Othello Win
+ 08-01-08 GOMTV MSL S4 Blue Storm Win
+ 07-03-10 2007 2nd KeSPA Cup Sin Peaks of Baekdu Loss What is that? Wins/Loss ? Im talking of titles On May 29 2009 12:04 Jaksiel wrote:On May 29 2009 11:11 danieldrsa wrote:
Sorry but isnt Bisu 4 - 3 Jaedong?
Bisu
2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 2
JD
2007 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
2008-09 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague JD also won GOMTV Intel Classic Season 1... Yup, you´re right, i forgot TG-Intel Classic 2008 Season 1, so they are 4-4 On May 29 2009 12:10 Harem wrote:On May 29 2009 12:04 BWdero wrote:On May 29 2009 11:11 danieldrsa wrote:
Sorry but isnt Bisu 4 - 3 Jaedong?
Bisu
2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 2
JD
2007 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
2008-09 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague You include Bisu's win of GOM season 2, but ignore JD's win of GOM season 1. Why? He also forgot JD winning WCG Korea too. No, as far as i know, WCG is not considered for titles. Its not considered a Starleague (there is a thread explaining this but i dont remember where it is now). jaedong osl 2 titles bisu osl:0 the rest is all just farts in a tornado *edit* gom isnt sanctioned, hence not a starleague. Sorry, but to me saying that MSL is not a title is lame to me. Although some ppl like to say that, MSL have the same skilled players, maps, and is bo5 when it does really matter. Bisu 3-0 Savior on a MSL worth 3 OSLs if you ask me. JD not bonjwa, Savior was Bonjwa at that time. + Show Spoiler +
O yeah, nice pic i admit
The strange thing is the guy with no OSLs above one with 2
Edit: done a small update to your image, hope you like
![[image loading]](http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2452/mslosl.jpg)
Edit2: corrected an eror in the image
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On May 30 2009 09:38 danieldrsa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2009 02:55 ichimarugin680 wrote:
Lol danieldrsa can't help his fanboyism so yeah they're pretty much equall yeah, after seeing so many zergs here i need to put out the flames with some gasoline But to be honest, i agree with you, they are even Show nested quote +On May 30 2009 02:55 Atrioc wrote:On May 29 2009 23:19 danieldrsa wrote:On May 29 2009 15:07 piratebay wrote:On May 29 2009 13:15 danieldrsa wrote:On May 29 2009 11:13 Harem wrote:On May 29 2009 11:11 danieldrsa wrote:
Sorry but isnt Bisu 4 - 3 Jaedong?
Bisu
2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 2
JD
2007 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
2008-09 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague No, this is the correct. + 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Andromeda Win
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Colosseum II Win
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Medusa Loss
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Destination Win
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Andromeda Loss
+ 09-02-28 Shinhan Winners League Neo Harmony Loss
+ 08-12-23 Shinhan Proleague 08-09 Destination Win
+ 08-06-28 Shinhan08 Proleague Andromeda Loss
+ 08-05-01 Arena MSL 2008 Colosseum Win
+ 08-05-01 Arena MSL 2008 Othello Win
+ 08-01-08 GOMTV MSL S4 Blue Storm Win
+ 07-03-10 2007 2nd KeSPA Cup Sin Peaks of Baekdu Loss What is that? Wins/Loss ? Im talking of titles On May 29 2009 12:04 Jaksiel wrote:On May 29 2009 11:11 danieldrsa wrote:
Sorry but isnt Bisu 4 - 3 Jaedong?
Bisu
2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 2
JD
2007 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
2008-09 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague JD also won GOMTV Intel Classic Season 1... Yup, you´re right, i forgot TG-Intel Classic 2008 Season 1, so they are 4-4 On May 29 2009 12:10 Harem wrote:On May 29 2009 12:04 BWdero wrote:On May 29 2009 11:11 danieldrsa wrote:
Sorry but isnt Bisu 4 - 3 Jaedong?
Bisu
2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 2
JD
2007 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
2008-09 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague You include Bisu's win of GOM season 2, but ignore JD's win of GOM season 1. Why? He also forgot JD winning WCG Korea too. No, as far as i know, WCG is not considered for titles. Its not considered a Starleague (there is a thread explaining this but i dont remember where it is now). jaedong osl 2 titles bisu osl:0 the rest is all just farts in a tornado *edit* gom isnt sanctioned, hence not a starleague. Sorry, but to me saying that MSL is not a title is lame to me. Although some ppl like to say that, MSL have the same skilled players, maps, and is bo5 when it does really matter. Bisu 3-0 Savior on a MSL worth 3 OSLs if you ask me. JD not bonjwa, Savior was Bonjwa at that time. + Show Spoiler + O yeah, nice pic i admit The strange thing is the guy with no OSLs above one with 2 Edit: done a small update to your image, hope you like
What a fail, omg, Bisu has 3 MSLs, ROFAIL
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Ok, guess ima start practising...
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good stuff!
thank you Letmelose!
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On May 30 2009 14:44 Geo.Rion wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2009 09:38 danieldrsa wrote:On May 30 2009 02:55 ichimarugin680 wrote:
Lol danieldrsa can't help his fanboyism so yeah they're pretty much equall yeah, after seeing so many zergs here i need to put out the flames with some gasoline But to be honest, i agree with you, they are even On May 30 2009 02:55 Atrioc wrote:On May 29 2009 23:19 danieldrsa wrote:On May 29 2009 15:07 piratebay wrote:On May 29 2009 13:15 danieldrsa wrote:On May 29 2009 11:13 Harem wrote:On May 29 2009 11:11 danieldrsa wrote:
Sorry but isnt Bisu 4 - 3 Jaedong?
Bisu
2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 2
JD
2007 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
2008-09 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague No, this is the correct. + 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Andromeda Win
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Colosseum II Win
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Medusa Loss
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Destination Win
+ 09-03-01 Averatec-Intel Classi.. Andromeda Loss
+ 09-02-28 Shinhan Winners League Neo Harmony Loss
+ 08-12-23 Shinhan Proleague 08-09 Destination Win
+ 08-06-28 Shinhan08 Proleague Andromeda Loss
+ 08-05-01 Arena MSL 2008 Colosseum Win
+ 08-05-01 Arena MSL 2008 Othello Win
+ 08-01-08 GOMTV MSL S4 Blue Storm Win
+ 07-03-10 2007 2nd KeSPA Cup Sin Peaks of Baekdu Loss What is that? Wins/Loss ? Im talking of titles On May 29 2009 12:04 Jaksiel wrote:On May 29 2009 11:11 danieldrsa wrote:
Sorry but isnt Bisu 4 - 3 Jaedong?
Bisu
2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 2
JD
2007 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
2008-09 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague JD also won GOMTV Intel Classic Season 1... Yup, you´re right, i forgot TG-Intel Classic 2008 Season 1, so they are 4-4 On May 29 2009 12:10 Harem wrote:On May 29 2009 12:04 BWdero wrote:On May 29 2009 11:11 danieldrsa wrote:
Sorry but isnt Bisu 4 - 3 Jaedong?
Bisu
2006-2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 1
2007 GOMTV MBCGame StarLeague Season 2
2008 ClubDay MBCGame Starleague
2009 GOMTV Averatec-Intel Classic Season 2
JD
2007 EVER OnGameNet Starleague
2008 GOMTV MBCGame Starleague Season 4
2008-09 Batoo OnGameNet Starleague You include Bisu's win of GOM season 2, but ignore JD's win of GOM season 1. Why? He also forgot JD winning WCG Korea too. No, as far as i know, WCG is not considered for titles. Its not considered a Starleague (there is a thread explaining this but i dont remember where it is now). jaedong osl 2 titles bisu osl:0 the rest is all just farts in a tornado *edit* gom isnt sanctioned, hence not a starleague. Sorry, but to me saying that MSL is not a title is lame to me. Although some ppl like to say that, MSL have the same skilled players, maps, and is bo5 when it does really matter. Bisu 3-0 Savior on a MSL worth 3 OSLs if you ask me. JD not bonjwa, Savior was Bonjwa at that time. + Show Spoiler + O yeah, nice pic i admit The strange thing is the guy with no OSLs above one with 2 Edit: done a small update to your image, hope you like What a fail, omg, Bisu has 3 MSLs, ROFAIL
ROFL, lol
Indeed a fail, but the idea stay the same at least
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On May 30 2009 09:38 danieldrsa wrote:O yeah,  Nice pic i admit The strange thing is the guy with no OSLs above one with 2 Edit: done a small update to your image, hope you like Edit2: corrected an eror in the image
One could of course counter that with the may kespa ranking
1. (Z)Jaedong - Hwaseung Oz 2708.3 -
2. (P) Bisu - SK Telecom T1 2385.8 -
(Although Ill look like a fool if the new ranking comes out tomorrow and Bisu's on top of it ^^ unlikely though)
Anyways I don't think anyone can possibly argue that an OSL title mean more than a MSL title
Also I don't see how an MSL title is worth more than an OSL just because Bisu beat someone who was a bonjwa at that time ^^ (besides the fact the he mainly won because he used a build savior was not familiar with)
Or does this mean that Chojja is a more successful player than Jaedong?
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Dude...it seriously seems like (if the tone of the original article was carried over in the translation) that the author was slanting his writing heavily to imply some kind of dumb awkward discomfort between the two. The whole thing feels unnatural.
Thanks for the translation, though. It was still an interesting read.
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Well timid is probably the most popular personality among progamers, since all they do is play a game all day.
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Thank you so much for translating.
Here is some wishful thinking:
ProLeague Final: SKT1 vs Oz
Standing 3:3
Ace match Bisu vs Jaedong (a balanced map would be nice)
This would be so unbelievable epic
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Hey guys, JD has been playing pure ZvZ in PL because the only 2 games he played that werent a ZvZ and on the 2 maps that aren't heavily Z favored, he lost.
Man, JD is so much better than Bisu.
OSL means so much more than MSL, especially when you're seeded at the top and have to play fewer games when everyone has to fight from the bottom to win an MSL.
Should put a monster sarcasm spoiler at the top.
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On May 31 2009 20:08 7mk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2009 09:38 danieldrsa wrote:O yeah, Nice pic i admit The strange thing is the guy with no OSLs above one with 2 Edit: done a small update to your image, hope you like Edit2: corrected an eror in the image One could of course counter that with the may kespa ranking 1. (Z) Jaedong - Hwaseung Oz 2708.3 - 2. (P) Bisu - SK Telecom T1 2385.8 - (Although Ill look like a fool if the new ranking comes out tomorrow and Bisu's on top of it ^^ unlikely though) Anyways I don't think anyone can possibly argue that an OSL title mean more than a MSL title Also I don't see how an MSL title is worth more than an OSL just because Bisu beat someone who was a bonjwa at that time ^^ (besides the fact the he mainly won because he used a build savior was not familiar with) Or does this mean that Chojja is a more successful player than Jaedong?
I agree with you in almost everything you said, i was just counter-arguing the "osl>>msl".
What i not agree is that he won because savior was not familiar with the build. He won because he were superior, a fact proved by his victories until today.
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On June 01 2009 01:28 Mania[K]al wrote:
Hey guys, JD has been playing pure ZvZ in PL because the only 2 games he played that werent a ZvZ and on the 2 maps that aren't heavily Z favored, he lost.
Man, JD is so much better than Bisu.
OSL means so much more than MSL, especially when you're seeded at the top and have to play fewer games when everyone has to fight from the bottom to win an MSL.
Should put a monster sarcasm spoiler at the top.
That same argument you put (need to fight from the bottom) can be used to say that MSL worth more, as you need to prove yourself more.
But, my point is, in both leagues we have the same maps, players, and bo5. Why a win of Bisu 3-2 vs JD in MSL can be worse than a win of JD 3-2 over Bisu on OSL, with both players trainning hard for the matchup? That is.
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On May 31 2009 20:08 7mk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2009 09:38 danieldrsa wrote:O yeah, Nice pic i admit The strange thing is the guy with no OSLs above one with 2 Edit: done a small update to your image, hope you like Edit2: corrected an eror in the image One could of course counter that with the may kespa ranking 1. (Z) Jaedong - Hwaseung Oz 2708.3 - 2. (P) Bisu - SK Telecom T1 2385.8 - (Although Ill look like a fool if the new ranking comes out tomorrow and Bisu's on top of it ^^ unlikely though) Anyways I don't think anyone can possibly argue that an OSL title mean more than a MSL title Also I don't see how an MSL title is worth more than an OSL just because Bisu beat someone who was a bonjwa at that time ^^ (besides the fact the he mainly won because he used a build savior was not familiar with) Or does this mean that Chojja is a more successful player than Jaedong?
OSL is, has always been, and will always be a more prestigious tournament than the MSL. To bear an OSL title means more than to bear the MSL one. It's just a fact.
This does not mean that MSLs are easier to win or that OSLs are harder, that depends on many things (map pool, players in the quarter and semi-finals, etc.).
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On June 01 2009 02:32 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2009 20:08 7mk wrote:On May 30 2009 09:38 danieldrsa wrote:O yeah, Nice pic i admit The strange thing is the guy with no OSLs above one with 2 Edit: done a small update to your image, hope you like Edit2: corrected an eror in the image One could of course counter that with the may kespa ranking 1. (Z) Jaedong - Hwaseung Oz 2708.3 - 2. (P) Bisu - SK Telecom T1 2385.8 - (Although Ill look like a fool if the new ranking comes out tomorrow and Bisu's on top of it ^^ unlikely though) Anyways I don't think anyone can possibly argue that an OSL title mean more than a MSL title Also I don't see how an MSL title is worth more than an OSL just because Bisu beat someone who was a bonjwa at that time ^^ (besides the fact the he mainly won because he used a build savior was not familiar with) Or does this mean that Chojja is a more successful player than Jaedong? OSL is, has always been, and will always be a more prestigious tournament than the MSL. To bear an OSL title means more than to bear the MSL one. It's just a fact. This does not mean that MSLs are easier to win or that OSLs are harder, that depends on many things (map pool, players in the quarter and semi-finals, etc.).
(my blank)
With that you said, how can OSL>MSL argument be cannon? This is just contradiction.
I know this is somewhat "common sense", but i disagree completely, by the same arguments i posted earlier.
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Koreans say so, so we must agree. You ask how we can say that OSL>MSL and we gave you the answers. But you aren't satisfied. We're not saying one's easier or harder, but players value the OSL more.
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On June 01 2009 03:02 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Koreans say so, so we must agree. You ask how we can say that OSL>MSL and we gave you the answers. But you aren't satisfied. We're not saying one's easier or harder, but players value the OSL more.
Well, sorry if i do not blindly follow what others say. And i dont know if all koreans think this way anymore, perhaps some years ago.
I just read the OSL/MSL history, and i saw why OSL has this reputation, and its deserved.
But i can say also that, from some years ago to today, its not that different anymore.
From MSL FAQ:
"What is the MSL?
MSL stands for MBCGame Starleague. MBCGame is a division of MBC which is one of Korea’s biggest television networks. Although traditionally MSL is seen as the lesser of the two major leagues, these days it is seen on par with OSL (in fact it currently has larger monetary backing than OSL). MBC also sponsor a progaming team."
So i see im not wrong.
Well, we went away from the topic, so i think its better if end this discussion
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On May 31 2009 21:43 PH wrote:
Dude...it seriously seems like (if the tone of the original article was carried over in the translation) that the author was slanting his writing heavily to imply some kind of dumb awkward discomfort between the two. The whole thing feels unnatural.
I'd guess the interviewer was either slanting the article, deliberately trying to make them feel awkward, or both.
But excellent translation (reads really well in English!) and thanks!!!
On June 01 2009 01:28 Mania[K]al wrote:
OSL means so much more than MSL, especially when you're seeded at the top and have to play fewer games when everyone has to fight from the bottom to win an MSL.
Jaedong is a Royal Roader. He won his first OSL when he didn't have a seed.
Bisu is a Royal Third Place or Royal Ro8 or something, not going to bother looking it up...
Stupid argument IMO.
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Bisu and Jaedong. The two progamers responsible for drawing my interest into StarCraft progaming in the first place. Their first encounter on Blue Storm is the first professional game I have ever watched and it still holds a special place in my mind. That is why I am a fan of both players
Thank you very much for the translation. Highly appretiated..
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On June 01 2009 03:19 danieldrsa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2009 03:02 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Koreans say so, so we must agree. You ask how we can say that OSL>MSL and we gave you the answers. But you aren't satisfied. We're not saying one's easier or harder, but players value the OSL more. Well, sorry if i do not blindly follow what others say. And i dont know if all koreans think this way anymore, perhaps some years ago. I just read the OSL/MSL history, and i saw why OSL has this reputation, and its deserved. But i can say also that, from some years ago to today, its not that different anymore. From MSL FAQ: "What is the MSL? MSL stands for MBCGame Starleague. MBCGame is a division of MBC which is one of Korea’s biggest television networks. Although traditionally MSL is seen as the lesser of the two major leagues, these days it is seen on par with OSL (in fact it currently has larger monetary backing than OSL). MBC also sponsor a progaming team." So i see im not wrong. Well, we went away from the topic, so i think its better if end this discussion
There was a write-up somewhere on TL that accurately described the relationship between MSL and OSL by saying "no one plays StarCraft dreaming of the MSL gold... It's the OSL championship that fills the hopes of players [sic]." Just because OSL is less frequently played, is older (I believe), and is generally bigger (in every sense of the word) than the MSLs makes it the #1 priority for people playing individual leagues. Just because the difference between the two has diminished due to funding, it has not diminished due to history or tradition. There is a reason why you get the Golden Mouse after 3 OSL victories and nothing for 3 MSLs (Bisu).
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But I think the OSL lost some ground in the last couple of seasons. Not that the money got less, but OGN keep making even the further stages of the tournament in their studio, before, they were gathering huge audience even for the Ro8, check Ever 2007 for the reference, iirc the last OSL held that way.
OSL is still the pinnacle of the korean scene, but in the last couple of seasons I find it.... dull
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On June 01 2009 07:21 fanatacist wrote:There is a reason why you get the Golden Mouse after 3 OSL victories and nothing for 3 MSLs (Bisu).
To be honest, I do not understand why that is. There should definitely be something for 3 MSL`s as well.
A golden keyboard, perhaps?
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The top two players in the scene, wow...so epic...
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for winning the 3 msl players get golden ring (?!), yes superdanielman keeps mentioning that when it comes to bisu. I dont know what this exactly is, maybe they have in mind that the 3rd MSL badge is golden or smth
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great interview. thanks
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Come on, we all know the real difference between the OSL and the MSL. Booth girls.
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On June 01 2009 08:47 Tom Phoenix wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2009 07:21 fanatacist wrote:There is a reason why you get the Golden Mouse after 3 OSL victories and nothing for 3 MSLs (Bisu). To be honest, I do not understand why that is. There should definitely be something for 3 MSL`s as well. A golden keyboard, perhaps?
I think there is a golden badge.
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ive heard about a golden ring also, but never saw it
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Yes there is some award for the 3rd MSL but it's definitely not as prestigious as the Golden Mouse, as evidenced by the fact that none of you have seen it/are sure of what it is.
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Hi, you ommitted the part about what they do in their free time (at the end of Practice Junkies paragraph). So you might want to add this in:
"Then what do these 'practiceholics' do in their free time? "We barely have any free time so whenever we do we must try and occupy ourselves doing something. Sometimes we go out with teammates to eat "Odaeng" (korean fish dish, pretty much eaten casually, like hotdogs), and other times when there's nothing specific we just hang around in the streets. Staying in our living quarters is too claustrophobic". Jaedong always goes "out". Bisu, on the other hand, tends to catch up on his lack of sleep."
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difference between msl and osl is that msl has gay sponsors
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On June 02 2009 23:56 fanatacist wrote:
Yes there is some award for the 3rd MSL but it's definitely not as prestigious as the Golden Mouse, as evidenced by the fact that none of you have seen it/are sure of what it is.
There IS an award for a 3rd MSL, that IS FACT, whether one tourney or the other is more difficult and prestigious is open to debate, however if you ever happen to watch some of Savior's games during 06-early 07 or in the first GOM, you'll see the camera centering on a golden MSL badge near his black shirt pocket. I believe there has been recent pro league games where it showed Bisu having a similar golden badge as well.
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On May 29 2009 13:50 boesthius wrote:jaedong: do the bisu build.. ..inside me.
On May 30 2009 02:55 Atrioc wrote:
Double quoted for brilliance.
Wonderful translation, thank you so much.
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Was a great read Sir, many thanks.
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