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Balancing Battle Royal

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SiegeTanksandBlueGoo
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
China685 Posts
May 10 2009 16:42 GMT
#1
Just an idea to throw out there, but maybe to balance Battle Royale, we could put missile turrets on a ridge or just on the ground between the two bases. We could make these missile turrets hostile to both players so the overlord scouting that makes zerg so strong on this map is canceled out.

Thoughts?

Personally, I'm tired of the outer bases never being used and the entire thing being zvz.
What does the scouter say about his macro level? It's Over 9000 minerals!
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
May 10 2009 16:46 GMT
#2
Is it even possible to do that?
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Ra.Xor.2
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1784 Posts
May 10 2009 16:48 GMT
#3
Its definetely possible, but u'd have to play it in UMS
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
May 10 2009 16:48 GMT
#4
I'm pretty sure they're just going to end up throwing out the map. I still don't understand why there isn't a P>Z imbalance though, as strategy was discussed in this thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=91666&currentpage=8

A few interesting ways that you could think about balancing it would be to make the gas geysers buildable, but I don't think that you can put them close enough to create the unit size issues that you want while still making them buildable.

Another way you could balance it would be by reducing the health of the neutral buildings that provide the second pathway into the nat. This could possibly allow the fast vult no dropship play to work, but it's not going to help protoss all that much.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66158 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-10 16:49:45
May 10 2009 16:49 GMT
#5
I actually thought of how Battle Royal can be improved, and I thought of a few things:

- Make the main + nat higher ground, sort of like Troy.

This will allow easier defense for Terrans and Protoss, although it might help the zerg too due to higher ground sunkens or lurkers.

- Reduce Xel'Naga temple's HP to 75%
Faster destruction, faster push, harder for Zerg.

This is for melee version of course :<

But the OP's idea is pretty neat, won't be playable on ICCup though
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25980 Posts
May 10 2009 16:50 GMT
#6
Yes let's add UMS features to a proleague map. Wait, what?
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Wurzelbrumpft
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany471 Posts
May 10 2009 16:52 GMT
#7
On May 11 2009 01:50 Chill wrote:
Yes let's add UMS features to a proleague map. Wait, what?


they play all their games in ums anyway..
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66158 Posts
May 10 2009 16:53 GMT
#8
On May 11 2009 01:52 Wurzelbrumpft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2009 01:50 Chill wrote:
Yes let's add UMS features to a proleague map. Wait, what?


they play all their games in ums anyway..


That's only because of the 'observer' requirement, not for some fancy triggers.
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Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
May 10 2009 16:53 GMT
#9
Let's make a beacon in both bases. If you put 2 marines on the beacon you get a Jim Raynor.
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8091 Posts
May 10 2009 16:59 GMT
#10
maybe just get rid of the geysers?
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n
Profile Joined May 2009
United States48 Posts
May 10 2009 16:59 GMT
#11
On May 11 2009 01:53 Klive5ive wrote:
Let's make a beacon in both bases. If you put 2 marines on the beacon you get a Jim Raynor.


Your idea is good, but it's pointless if there aren't light-switch and masser beacons at the bottom right corner.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66158 Posts
May 10 2009 17:05 GMT
#12
On May 11 2009 01:59 n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2009 01:53 Klive5ive wrote:
Let's make a beacon in both bases. If you put 2 marines on the beacon you get a Jim Raynor.


Your idea is good, but it's pointless if there aren't light-switch and masser beacons at the bottom right corner.

Yeah, turn it into Zone Control /w Mass Attack.

=/
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Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
May 10 2009 17:06 GMT
#13
I am pretty sure they will get rid of this map as soon as possible and just replace it with something else, during next "cycle" of map changing or whatever its called.
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Scyther3176
Profile Joined August 2005
United Kingdom13 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-10 17:07:40
May 10 2009 17:07 GMT
#14
could reduce the mineral patches to several 0 resource mineral patches like on Destination, means you can get out faster but its a small space so you can defend if lings try to run through (providing you destroyed the assimilators)
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
May 10 2009 17:09 GMT
#15
Make the assimilators have less health?
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
May 10 2009 17:27 GMT
#16
Make a Torresque spawn every 1 minute starting from the 10 minute mark and make it chose randomly the base it will attack.
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AlwaysGG
Profile Joined March 2009
Taiwan952 Posts
May 10 2009 17:28 GMT
#17
add turret lol dream too much ?
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-10 17:33:26
May 10 2009 17:32 GMT
#18
You could always make it a shadow rush map where every Terran unit builds 30% faster.

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JK, I actually think the idea of UMS triggers and such are the next step in progaming maps, but I don't think anyone is ready for enemy turrets... Not to mention it would be really annoying trying to stop your terran units from attacking the turrets while they're standing around/you're trying to run your marines to defend against turrets.


To change the balance of this map (while being playable in melee), they need to take the geyser out of the main. FE every game for gas... but at least it slows down the zerg mutalisk attack, while giving some other interesting gameplay changes (in an already wacky map).
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SiegeTanksandBlueGoo
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
China685 Posts
May 10 2009 17:42 GMT
#19
On May 11 2009 02:32 Chef wrote:
You could always make it a shadow rush map where every Terran unit builds 30% faster.

+ Show Spoiler +
JK, I actually think the idea of UMS triggers and such are the next step in progaming maps, but I don't think anyone is ready for enemy turrets... Not to mention it would be really annoying trying to stop your terran units from attacking the turrets while they're standing around/you're trying to run your marines to defend against turrets.


To change the balance of this map (while being playable in melee), they need to take the geyser out of the main. FE every game for gas... but at least it slows down the zerg mutalisk attack, while giving some other interesting gameplay changes (in an already wacky map).



Make missile turrets indestructible and they won' be targeted at all by units. AI just treats it like it wasn't there. Maybe only 3-4, just enough to prevent the overlord from flying straight there.
What does the scouter say about his macro level? It's Over 9000 minerals!
SiegeTanksandBlueGoo
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
China685 Posts
May 10 2009 17:42 GMT
#20
On May 11 2009 01:50 Chill wrote:
Yes let's add UMS features to a proleague map. Wait, what?


Hi, I contributed to this thread.
What does the scouter say about his macro level? It's Over 9000 minerals!
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