• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 18:27
CET 00:27
KST 08:27
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !10Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Micro Lags When Playing SC2? When will we find out if there are more tournament Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win
Tourneys
$100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1 RSL Offline Finals Info - Dec 13 and 14!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play Mutation # 502 Negative Reinforcement
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Anyone remember me from 2000s Bnet EAST server? soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB QuarterFinals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] WB SEMIFINALS - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
The (Hidden) Drug Problem in…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1260 users

[spoilers] The next generation - Page 2

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 14 15 16 Next All
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
April 22 2009 18:44 GMT
#21
durr, they lost one (or two at most) games, durr, let's find the new top players, durr, Flash-Bisu-JD suck, durr
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-22 18:46:37
April 22 2009 18:45 GMT
#22
On April 23 2009 03:41 lordmordor wrote:
Flash is a little more iffy though, if he continues to fail in individual leagues he may lose his place as top Terran, if he hasn't lost it already.


I agree Flash isn't his old dominating self, but not top terran wtf? He went like 11-1 just a few weeks ago, and isn't he #1 in proleague or something? At least top 3...

http://scforall.com/news/news02.asp?mNum=n02&PageNo=1&where=&query=&sterm=&articleNum=914

Flash #1
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
April 22 2009 18:46 GMT
#23
These kids will one day win a starleague 100% imo:

- Tazza
- by.hero

i can see it in their eyes.
scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-22 20:46:04
April 22 2009 18:46 GMT
#24
I never said that Jaedong et al weren't on the top, I said that they wouldn't be on the top forever, and that it's a good time to look at who will be the next to rise to the top.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 22 2009 18:46 GMT
#25
lol, just cause they had a bad week, they are not title contenders anymore? :p
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
LumberJack
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3355 Posts
April 22 2009 18:47 GMT
#26
its PL, who the fuck cares about PL. The new players do im sure, and are practicing their asses of. The old guys dont give a shit. You're reading too much into 1 freakin game in a PL that doesnt mean shit.
Man fears the darkness, and so he scrapes away at the edges of it with fire.
scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-22 18:48:53
April 22 2009 18:48 GMT
#27
@SuperArc:
@LumberJack:
Nonono, I just said Flash isn't a contender anymore. And that's just because I'm an antifan.

The other top players are still contenders, but a new generation of players will eventually succeed them and that's what this topic is about.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25990 Posts
April 22 2009 18:50 GMT
#28
On April 23 2009 03:44 Geo.Rion wrote:
durr, they lost one (or two at most) games, durr, let's find the new top players, durr, Flash-Bisu-JD suck, durr

Seriously, my thoughts exactly. Those 3 vs anyone is very much in their favour. I can't comprehend what you were thinking when you made this thread.
Moderator
scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-22 18:56:07
April 22 2009 18:53 GMT
#29
Sorry about that Chill, I had a provocative and offtopic paragraph in the OP that confused people as to the purpose of this thread.

I've deleted that paragraph and added a clarification edit to clarify that this thread isn't stating that the top players aren't the top players, it's just stating that they won't be the top players forever and it's a thread for speculating about who might eventually succeed them.

On April 23 2009 03:27 scwizard wrote:
ANTI CONFUSION EDIT:
I'm deleting a paragraph in the OP that probably contributed to the confusion.

I'm not saying that the top players aren't the top players cause they dropped a game in proleauge. They are still the top players. They won't be forever though, and this topic is about what will happen when they'll fall. It's not saying "they're falling, who will replace them." I'm not saying the top players are all falling now, I'm saying they'll eventually fall and people will eventually rise up to replace them and this topic is speculating over who those players might be.


I can't comprhend what you were thinking when you made that thread

I was thinking "lets start a discussion about which players are up and coming and may replace the greats down the road when they're not the top players anymore"

I just put an unnecessary paragraph in there by mistake, and everyone focused on that. I'm very sorry.
Wurzelbrumpft
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Germany471 Posts
April 22 2009 18:54 GMT
#30
On April 23 2009 03:37 emucxg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2009 03:33 Wurzelbrumpft wrote:
movie

movie is bad imo...
one game tells nothing...

i watched most of his games, i didnt make that statement based on his game vs jaedong.
he also did an all kill for cj
beam me up scotty, this planet suxX
Azrael1111
Profile Joined July 2008
United States550 Posts
April 22 2009 18:57 GMT
#31
Flash-Bisu-JD remain the top contenders for starleague titles, now as they have over the last year. All have over 60% winrates in 2009, and JD/Bisu have OVER 70%. A couple recent losses doesn't change that.
scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-22 19:01:47
April 22 2009 18:59 GMT
#32
On April 23 2009 03:57 Azrael1111 wrote:
Flash-Bisu-JD remain the top contenders for starleague titles.

I agree, and have changed the OP so that it doesn't appear to anyone to be going against this.

On April 23 2009 03:37 emucxg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2009 03:33 Wurzelbrumpft wrote:
movie

movie is bad imo...

I think that if you look at his winrate and who he has beaten, he certainly isn't bad.
I also think that he's starting to develop a unique style that could be very powerful once he grows into it. In a year from now, or sooner, I'm expecting him to appear in a starleague top8.
wwooaa
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Croatia179 Posts
April 22 2009 18:59 GMT
#33
Horang2/TazzA era will come !
wWoOaA)Is( /// kasda.cry...Ninjas can't catch you if you are on FIRE !
Pioneer
Profile Joined December 2008
994 Posts
April 22 2009 19:00 GMT
#34
On April 23 2009 03:34 emucxg wrote:
(T)sKyHigh, (T)BaBy, (Z)Thezerg, (Z)by.hero, (Z)EffOrt, (T)fantasy, (Z)Orion and + Show Spoiler +
Savior

+ Show Spoiler +
Sorry (P)PrOtoss, Your time is over

Orion and TheZerg have been progamers forever. Orion is and always will be in a state of mediocrity and TheZerg is way to inconsistent to ever be anything more than a sniper.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25990 Posts
April 22 2009 19:00 GMT
#35
Ok, so really your question is:
"Who is good (other than Flash, JD, Bisu)?"?
- OR -
"Who sucks / used to suck but will soon be good?"?
Moderator
scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-22 19:06:47
April 22 2009 19:03 GMT
#36
Chill: I'd phrase it as "who looks the most promising for the future."

The reason it excludes Flash/Jaedong/Bisu, is because you don't say about someone like them that "they show a lot of promise"
FusionCutter
Profile Joined October 2004
Canada974 Posts
April 22 2009 19:03 GMT
#37
Boxer.
ExSoldier
Profile Joined April 2008
378 Posts
April 22 2009 19:06 GMT
#38
terran: skyhigh, baby (fantasy dont make it to my list b/c fantasy is oov's puppet
zerg: its too early to say "next generation". Jaedong, july, savior is still doing well in proleagues.
toss: tempest, horang2, But bisu and free is still doing well so.
scwizard
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1195 Posts
April 22 2009 19:08 GMT
#39
Yeah, it truly is difficult with zerg, because the zerg is at their height, the next generation is far away.

Perhaps that is why the races alternate being on top, because their generations are spaced evenly.
Pioneer
Profile Joined December 2008
994 Posts
April 22 2009 19:15 GMT
#40
I'd say for Protoss the players to look out for concerning winning a league are Kal and Free. Both have been known names for a while but never did much in leagues. But they both seem to be getting better and better

There is no real new talent besides Effort, Zero, Skyhigh, and fantasy.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 14 15 16 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 12h 33m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft442
elazer 123
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 418
910 49
Yoon 16
Dota 2
febbydoto21
League of Legends
C9.Mang0164
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox722
Mew2King63
Other Games
Grubby3395
tarik_tv3230
FrodaN1862
B2W.Neo606
shahzam334
mouzStarbuck243
RotterdaM163
XaKoH 143
Maynarde138
ViBE36
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV80
StarCraft 2
angryscii 37
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• RyuSc2 60
• Hupsaiya 20
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• mYiSmile121
• Michael_bg 6
• XenOsky 1
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22123
Other Games
• imaqtpie1851
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Invitational
12h 33m
Gerald vs YoungYakov
Spirit vs MaNa
SHIN vs Percival
Creator vs Scarlett
Replay Cast
1d 9h
WardiTV Invitational
1d 12h
ByuN vs Solar
Clem vs Classic
Cure vs herO
Reynor vs MaxPax
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Krystianer vs TBD
TriGGeR vs SKillous
Percival vs TBD
ByuN vs Nicoract
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-12-22
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.