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[News] Max (Woongjin Stars) Retires. - Page 2

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Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
April 15 2009 18:59 GMT
#21
Some comments to neverGG
+ Show Spoiler +

Hmm neverGG, this thread post with google translation well was bit pointless. I mean I can do it myself but I won't make thread just to copy paste it here. If you are bored, just make short statement and link source. Usually there is someone to translate it.


Oh and according to SCForall.com 3 other Woonjin players retired too http://www.scforall.com/news/news02.asp?mNum=n02&PageNo=1&where=&query=&sterm=&articleNum=908
ChoRds
Profile Joined June 2008
United States127 Posts
April 15 2009 19:37 GMT
#22
On April 16 2009 03:59 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Some comments to neverGG
+ Show Spoiler +

Hmm neverGG, this thread post with google translation well was bit pointless. I mean I can do it myself but I won't make thread just to copy paste it here. If you are bored, just make short statement and link source. Usually there is someone to translate it.


Oh and according to SCForall.com 3 other Woonjin players retired too http://www.scforall.com/news/news02.asp?mNum=n02&PageNo=1&where=&query=&sterm=&articleNum=908



collosusis
Pyrthas
Profile Joined March 2007
United States3196 Posts
April 15 2009 19:43 GMT
#23
On April 16 2009 03:59 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Some comments to neverGG
+ Show Spoiler +

Hmm neverGG, this thread post with google translation well was bit pointless. I mean I can do it myself but I won't make thread just to copy paste it here. If you are bored, just make short statement and link source. Usually there is someone to translate it.

What is the point of putting this in a spoiler?
Gliche
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States811 Posts
April 15 2009 19:58 GMT
#24
this news makes me so sad.. especially atm when i am trying to push off on my own career.. T_T

failed dreams </3
KT fighting~!! | Designing things is fun!
GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
April 15 2009 20:01 GMT
#25
Man, so sad . GL Max!
araav
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Armenia1590 Posts
April 15 2009 20:09 GMT
#26
sad indeed. the huge skill gap renders bottom players useless anymore. it may as well be a motivation killer for new generation??
The flower that blooms in adversity is the most rare and beautiful of all.
Gryffindor_us
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States5606 Posts
April 15 2009 20:11 GMT
#27
Nooooooooo Frankenstein Zerg T_T. I hate seeing players retire except for a select few ;P.
Remember 11-12-04. 이윤열 ~. |||| ZerO, IriS, JangBi, Stork, BackHo! Mah Jae Yoon is no longer a feared entity.
koOl
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada254 Posts
April 15 2009 20:38 GMT
#28
omg...is that like 5 or 6 players to retire after losing to tossgirl now?
hihi
Sonu
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada577 Posts
April 15 2009 20:42 GMT
#29
i still dont get why they took out 2v2... even thought i started gtting into sc when they took it out, i still wish they had it. 2v2s are fun in their own right...
"I really like this wall-in, because its not a fucking wall" - DAy[9]
klizzer
Profile Joined March 2008
517 Posts
April 15 2009 20:53 GMT
#30
Oh my, that's really sad. Fantastic_namoo and Max were a beastly team, really. Max + Piano too.

So much bitterness in that interview, I'm actually pretty surprised. I mean, Max could have been a great player probably. But so many progamers *could* have been great, so many... Kinda sad to see them come and go.

NsP_DarLinG going back to study... I guess there is a way out for some of them. Progaming is a hard career.

On a sidenote, TOSSGIRL CURSE BEWARE ESWC PARTICIPANTS
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-15 22:56:30
April 15 2009 22:51 GMT
#31
On April 16 2009 03:59 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Some comments to neverGG
+ Show Spoiler +

Hmm neverGG, this thread post with google translation well was bit pointless. I mean I can do it myself but I won't make thread just to copy paste it here. If you are bored, just make short statement and link source. Usually there is someone to translate it.


Oh and according to SCForall.com 3 other Woonjin players retired too http://www.scforall.com/news/news02.asp?mNum=n02&PageNo=1&where=&query=&sterm=&articleNum=908


Uh did you even read the top notes?

I said I would edit the op - I just wanted to let people know incase no one translated it because Max isn't really a very big name.

(I'm bored so I ran this through google translator and then cleaned out most of the Korean - hopefully someone can provide a REAL translation!! I am not claiming this is accurate, but you get the gist until someone can do it properly and I'll add it to the OP.)

I then went to bed because I was damn tired - hence the gap between posting and editing the OP/
ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH.

I *knew* someone would have to bitch about this to me. I'm editing the op right now to include the actual translations done by losing and another person. Sorry for making the effort to try and provide a little bit more information! Jesus people like you make me wonder why I bother some times.

I need to put the wall-hitting icon on full time some days.
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
April 15 2009 23:05 GMT
#32
On April 16 2009 07:51 NeverGG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2009 03:59 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Some comments to neverGG
+ Show Spoiler +

Hmm neverGG, this thread post with google translation well was bit pointless. I mean I can do it myself but I won't make thread just to copy paste it here. If you are bored, just make short statement and link source. Usually there is someone to translate it.


Oh and according to SCForall.com 3 other Woonjin players retired too http://www.scforall.com/news/news02.asp?mNum=n02&PageNo=1&where=&query=&sterm=&articleNum=908


Uh did you even read the top notes? I *knew* someone would have to bitch about this to me. I'm editing the op right now to include the actual translations done by losing and another person. Sorry for making the effort to try and provide a little bit more information! Jesus people like you make me wonder why I bother some times.



[Heavy whining]

Sometimes there needs to be critics about something to improve quality.

I just don't wanna see this kind of pattern happening too often

1. Add words "bored" to start of news (sounds like news is poorly done but it can be saved still)

2. Using internet translators, those don't work

3. Finally which makes me sad is adding "I'll edit later if better translation comes ..."

For example, I could get one random news from fomos and start thread by saying "bla bla bored bla bla, (insert fomos picture). Using google translator bla bla, i'll edit later if better translation comes". I bet not that many would be happy and soon many threads would be closed.

Just to point out I like your photo threads, those are super nice. But perhaps translating posts could be done someone else
[/Heavy whining]
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
April 15 2009 23:15 GMT
#33
On April 16 2009 08:05 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2009 07:51 NeverGG wrote:
On April 16 2009 03:59 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Some comments to neverGG
+ Show Spoiler +

Hmm neverGG, this thread post with google translation well was bit pointless. I mean I can do it myself but I won't make thread just to copy paste it here. If you are bored, just make short statement and link source. Usually there is someone to translate it.


Oh and according to SCForall.com 3 other Woonjin players retired too http://www.scforall.com/news/news02.asp?mNum=n02&PageNo=1&where=&query=&sterm=&articleNum=908


Uh did you even read the top notes? I *knew* someone would have to bitch about this to me. I'm editing the op right now to include the actual translations done by losing and another person. Sorry for making the effort to try and provide a little bit more information! Jesus people like you make me wonder why I bother some times.



[Heavy whining]

Sometimes there needs to be critics about something to improve quality.

I just don't wanna see this kind of pattern happening too often

1. Add words "bored" to start of news (sounds like news is poorly done but it can be saved still)

2. Using internet translators, those don't work

3. Finally which makes me sad is adding "I'll edit later if better translation comes ..."

For example, I could get one random news from fomos and start thread by saying "bla bla bored bla bla, (insert fomos picture). Using google translator bla bla, i'll edit later if better translation comes". I bet not that many would be happy and soon many threads would be closed.

Just to point out I like your photo threads, those are super nice. But perhaps translating posts could be done someone else
[/Heavy whining]


I've done this ONCE - I liked Max as a player and a person when I met him and I wanted to share the fact that he's finally retired. I am sorry for not being one of the official translators/fluent in Korean, but I was just trying to share the news incase someone else didn't do it.

There will be no need for an 'improvement in quality' because this was a one-time deal. I just won't bother in the future with attempting to provide more than photos here because someone ALWAYS feels the need to come into the thread and bitch.

As it is - the comments on the Artosis photo thread made me highly consider what the hell I'm doing using all my free time and saving a massive chunk of my wages (to buy a better camera.) for people who are just going to tell me my photos make the subject retarded or complain about his;

- hair.
- health.
- dark circles.
- location.
- the weather.
- Some other bullshit that I can't control.

Thanks a lot for making me feel like a piece of shit for even bothering to try and contribute something else. Go you.
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
koOl
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada254 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-15 23:22:52
April 15 2009 23:19 GMT
#34
On April 16 2009 08:15 NeverGG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2009 08:05 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
On April 16 2009 07:51 NeverGG wrote:
On April 16 2009 03:59 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Some comments to neverGG
+ Show Spoiler +

Hmm neverGG, this thread post with google translation well was bit pointless. I mean I can do it myself but I won't make thread just to copy paste it here. If you are bored, just make short statement and link source. Usually there is someone to translate it.


Oh and according to SCForall.com 3 other Woonjin players retired too http://www.scforall.com/news/news02.asp?mNum=n02&PageNo=1&where=&query=&sterm=&articleNum=908


Uh did you even read the top notes? I *knew* someone would have to bitch about this to me. I'm editing the op right now to include the actual translations done by losing and another person. Sorry for making the effort to try and provide a little bit more information! Jesus people like you make me wonder why I bother some times.



[Heavy whining]

Sometimes there needs to be critics about something to improve quality.

I just don't wanna see this kind of pattern happening too often

1. Add words "bored" to start of news (sounds like news is poorly done but it can be saved still)

2. Using internet translators, those don't work

3. Finally which makes me sad is adding "I'll edit later if better translation comes ..."

For example, I could get one random news from fomos and start thread by saying "bla bla bored bla bla, (insert fomos picture). Using google translator bla bla, i'll edit later if better translation comes". I bet not that many would be happy and soon many threads would be closed.

Just to point out I like your photo threads, those are super nice. But perhaps translating posts could be done someone else
[/Heavy whining]


I've done this ONCE - I liked Max as a player and a person when I met him and I wanted to share the fact that he's finally retired. I am sorry for not being one of the official translators/fluent in Korean, but I was just trying to share the news incase someone else didn't do it.

There will be no need for an 'improvement in quality' because this was a one-time deal. I just won't bother in the future with attempting to provide more than photos here because someone ALWAYS feels the need to come into the thread and bitch.

As it is - the comments on the Artosis photo thread made me highly consider what the hell I'm doing using all my free time and saving a massive chunk of my wages (to buy a better camera.) for people who are just going to tell me my photos make the subject retarded or complain about his;

- hair.
- health.
- dark circles.
- location.
- the weather.
- Some other bullshit that I can't control.

Thanks a lot for making me feel like a piece of shit for even bothering to try and contribute something else. Go you.


there will always be haters...but some of us really appreciate all the photos u take!!! I dont post much but your photos are always awesome and i think its really nice of you to get so much info for us!

and i would like to see those people try to take pictures of your calibre!!
hihi
Guybrush
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Spain4744 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-04-15 23:24:23
April 15 2009 23:22 GMT
#35
On April 15 2009 15:06 pachi wrote:
- The reason you decided to retire
▲ I lost to Tossgirl at Offline MSL Prelims.


Btw I remember him mostly for beating Boxer on Alchemist in IOPS. I kinda hated him for that since Boxer didnt qualify for RO8 because of that.
Live2Win is awesome. Happy new year scarabi!
CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
April 15 2009 23:23 GMT
#36
its too bad, he was godly 2v2er, always enjoyed his games
By the way, my name is Funk. I am not of your world
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
April 15 2009 23:28 GMT
#37
On April 16 2009 08:15 NeverGG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2009 08:05 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
On April 16 2009 07:51 NeverGG wrote:
On April 16 2009 03:59 Too_MuchZerg wrote:
Some comments to neverGG
+ Show Spoiler +

Hmm neverGG, this thread post with google translation well was bit pointless. I mean I can do it myself but I won't make thread just to copy paste it here. If you are bored, just make short statement and link source. Usually there is someone to translate it.


Oh and according to SCForall.com 3 other Woonjin players retired too http://www.scforall.com/news/news02.asp?mNum=n02&PageNo=1&where=&query=&sterm=&articleNum=908


Uh did you even read the top notes? I *knew* someone would have to bitch about this to me. I'm editing the op right now to include the actual translations done by losing and another person. Sorry for making the effort to try and provide a little bit more information! Jesus people like you make me wonder why I bother some times.



[Heavy whining]

Sometimes there needs to be critics about something to improve quality.

I just don't wanna see this kind of pattern happening too often

1. Add words "bored" to start of news (sounds like news is poorly done but it can be saved still)

2. Using internet translators, those don't work

3. Finally which makes me sad is adding "I'll edit later if better translation comes ..."

For example, I could get one random news from fomos and start thread by saying "bla bla bored bla bla, (insert fomos picture). Using google translator bla bla, i'll edit later if better translation comes". I bet not that many would be happy and soon many threads would be closed.

Just to point out I like your photo threads, those are super nice. But perhaps translating posts could be done someone else
[/Heavy whining]


I've done this ONCE - I liked Max as a player and a person when I met him and I wanted to share the fact that he's finally retired. I am sorry for not being one of the official translators/fluent in Korean, but I was just trying to share the news incase someone else didn't do it.

There will be no need for an 'improvement in quality' because this was a one-time deal. I just won't bother in the future with attempting to provide more than photos here because someone ALWAYS feels the need to come into the thread and bitch.

As it is - the comments on the Artosis photo thread made me highly consider what the hell I'm doing using all my free time and saving a massive chunk of my wages (to buy a better camera.) for people who are just going to tell me my photos make the subject retarded or complain about his;

- hair.
- health.
- dark circles.
- location.
- the weather.
- Some other bullshit that I can't control.

Thanks a lot for making me feel like a piece of shit for even bothering to try and contribute something else. Go you.


You know that major of people who sees your pictures (75% typical internet numbers) don't type anything to your photo threads. Why? They are happy seeing those photos and most don't bother to make appreciation posts, just compare posts to views.

Tips to handle those complaints. Just talk to fellow admins and ask to nuke posts that contains certain comments about your photos (those you cant control, enviroment etc). Those makes your photos more living than fomos (which are pretty boring) pictures.
pubbanana
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3063 Posts
April 15 2009 23:32 GMT
#38
Max was on this list as well: http://www.scforall.com/news/news02.asp?mNum=n02&PageNo=1&where=&query=&sterm=&articleNum=904

I noticed Stay[HyO] is listed there, too which is odd because he retired in March.
Wachet, stehet im Glauben, seid männlich und seid stark.
tyr
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France1686 Posts
April 15 2009 23:48 GMT
#39
That's sad .. I hoped Max could do some kind of comeback. I really started to enjoy watch him play since a game against .. Mind iirc on Katrina where he didnt make his pool before his fourth hatch.
That was really amazing.
"I'm always reminded of how manly Jaedong is every time I see him." -Bisu
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
April 15 2009 23:53 GMT
#40
Stop being such a dick Too_MuchZerg. Seriously, she noted in the OP that this was just a rough translation, and it's better than nothing so quit complaining. It's not like it was a horrible OP or anything.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
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