On April 08 2009 02:03 nttea wrote:
maan i really wanted to pick hyvaa but he was SOOO expensive
maan i really wanted to pick hyvaa but he was SOOO expensive

me too =(
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hazed
United States42 Posts
On April 08 2009 02:03 nttea wrote: maan i really wanted to pick hyvaa but he was SOOO expensive ![]() me too =( | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36369 Posts
On April 08 2009 01:09 hazed wrote: Show nested quote + On April 08 2009 00:44 Hot_Bid wrote: On April 07 2009 23:46 hazed wrote: On April 07 2009 22:07 Abydos1 wrote: On April 07 2009 22:04 lazz wrote: imo the best player in the world should be 13 or 14 points, not 10... All the players costs are based on their previous performances, if you think he's worth it at 10 then go ahead and pick him ;P Wouldnt it make sense for him to be 11 or 12 with flash and bisu in 11 or 10 considering Jaedong has a higher overall win % and is the OSL champion AND all-killed almost 2 teams in a row in the semifinals and finals of winners league? First, I don't recall Jaedong all-killing anyone in the finals of WL, but I do remember ![]() We base our ratings off regular season Proleague results, as this next season will not have playoffs. Jaedong was not as good as Bisu or Flash in the WL regular season, as determined by a weighted formula based on the last two seasons. This is the most objective way to do player prices. What you're saying is we should just assign values based on what "makes sense" to us? This is completely subjective and arbitrary determination. Jaedong might be the best player right now taking into account OSL, but he wasn't better than Bisu or Flash in PL last season. Adjusting the rankings to make him 12 to satisfy some fans who think he should cost more is not a fair thing to do. You made it pretty clear you were offended by something you didnt even read. Nice... BTW, there is no reason to be so harsh. You just dismissed me as a fanboy without knowing a damn thing. Made me lol though... I wasn't offended - yes I missed the "almost" in your post, so my fault there and I am sorry for the snarky response. The comment about history being remembered by fans was just as much to highlight my own CJ fanboyness - I don't even remember Jaedong's great performances in the first three games, I only remember the four games after. My next two paragraphs explain quite adequately why we use previous WL/PL results as the base for determining player prices, it'd be unfair to include other leagues as our scoring isn't including other leagues results, only PL. I don't think my words were very harsh, but some people are sensitive I guess. Obviously, when you said "wouldn't it make more sense..." we assumed you understood that we were basing it off previous PL results and that you were advocating a different system that included more subjective evaluation. If we did include OSL and other results into pricing (your incorrect assumption), your analysis about cost would be correct. My dismissing you as a fanboy would also be correct if my assumption were true. Thus I was only "dismissing you as a fanboy" on an incorrect assumption, just like you thought our system "didn't make sense" based on an incorrect assumption (that we included all other results). We both "didn't know a damn thing". Regardless, when I said "to satisfy some fans who think he should cost more" it was directed more at the guy who said "the best player in the world should be 13 or 14 points not 10", clearly a Jaedong fan who felt the prices were an inaccurate reflection of the current BW hierarchy. | ||
Heimatloser
Germany1494 Posts
how can i access my team? | ||
Abydos1
United States832 Posts
On April 08 2009 03:07 Heimatloser wrote: if i send in a new team what happens? how can i access my team? Your team is displayed at http://www.teamliquid.net/fantasy/proleague/Team.php If you enter a new team your old team gets replaced with the new one. | ||
HanN00b
Germany1441 Posts
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Heimatloser
Germany1494 Posts
Here's my current setup;-) ▲Main Team▲ "The Players i except many Games and Wins of (except Jaedong)" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() KTF MagicNs 4 Pt ▼Anti Team▼ "The Players which i think will disappoint me most" ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Jaeden
Romania1489 Posts
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xxsaznpride
United States506 Posts
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() KTF MagicNs I'm thinking to maybe sub Nada for someone else, and maybe trading Iris for a lower-cost player in SkyHigh to bump my spending a bit. Thoughts? Criticisms? | ||
ichimarugin680
United States182 Posts
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uglymoose89
United States671 Posts
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Malongo
Chile3469 Posts
On April 08 2009 05:07 xxsaznpride wrote: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() KTF MagicNs I'm thinking to maybe sub Nada for someone else, and maybe trading Iris for a lower-cost player in SkyHigh to bump my spending a bit. Thoughts? Criticisms? Id take skyhigh over iris anytime. Both are equally good and iris is coming back (previous proleague season was so bad for him). On the other hand skyhigh took the place of the main terran in CJs lineup and i think he has more chances of Ace. By.hero sucks at proleague but can win many games if he actually plays. Rock sucks hard times id choose pusan or spear over him all day. Nada is not that good in proleague, and you have 2 players from one of the worst teams: wemade, i think forgg is better there. | ||
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Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Flash 11 GGPlay 2 Hwasin 3 Pusan 2 by.hero 1 hyvaa 8 MBCGame Hero 3 Anti-Team: BackHo 2 Jaedong 10 Xellos 1 | ||
Tyxiquale
Australia424 Posts
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Malongo
Chile3469 Posts
On April 08 2009 14:23 Plexa wrote: Team: Flash 11 GGPlay 2 Hwasin 3 Pusan 2 by.hero 1 hyvaa 8 MBCGame Hero 3 Anti-Team: BackHo 2 Jaedong 10 Xellos 1 Steel balls. I have a question about the trading system: I understand the player value will be recalculated every week for each player in some way and that trades only work to less valued players. The question is: the calculated player value will be approximated to whole numbers or some decimal place? And what was the main formula to calculate the player value? Thanks. | ||
Oedi
Canada265 Posts
BackHo 0 Flash 0 Horang2 0 Jaedong 0 OversKy 0 by.hero 0 KTF MagicN anti: BeSt 0 Kwanro 0 SangHo 0 | ||
Oedi
Canada265 Posts
On April 08 2009 14:23 Plexa wrote: Team: Flash 11 GGPlay 2 Hwasin 3 Pusan 2 by.hero 1 hyvaa 8 MBCGame Hero 3 Anti-Team: BackHo 2 Jaedong 10 Xellos 1 huge guts. You sir have huge guts. | ||
anch
United States5457 Posts
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ssystem
United Kingdom337 Posts
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bugus
Romania133 Posts
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Abydos1
United States832 Posts
On April 08 2009 15:14 Malongo wrote: Show nested quote + On April 08 2009 14:23 Plexa wrote: Team: Flash 11 GGPlay 2 Hwasin 3 Pusan 2 by.hero 1 hyvaa 8 MBCGame Hero 3 Anti-Team: BackHo 2 Jaedong 10 Xellos 1 Steel balls. I have a question about the trading system: I understand the player value will be recalculated every week for each player in some way and that trades only work to less valued players. The question is: the calculated player value will be approximated to whole numbers or some decimal place? And what was the main formula to calculate the player value? Thanks. From the preview thread (its not approximated, displayed values are rounded to the nearest 1/100th): + Show Spoiler [Trade Value formula & example] + Trade Value = (P / (4.56 / 11)) / M * M/11 + C * (11 - M)/11 P = Player's points. M = number of matches played. C = Player's original cost 4.56 is the number of points a 1 point cost player is expected to score over the entire round 11 is the total number of matches each team plays in a round. (4.56 / 11 ~= .41) Basically, this is figuring out what a player's point cost would be given their current performance (ie someone scoring 4.56 points in one game would have a cost of 11) this is then weighted with their original cost; the weights are percentage of games played for the "new" cost and percentage of games left for the original cost. I hope this makes sense, if not feel free to ask questions. As an example let's say ![]() T = (13 / .41) / 2 * 2/11 + 9 * (11-2/11) T = 31.4 / 2 * 2/11 + 9 * 9/11 = ? T = 15.7 * 2/11 + 9 * 9/11 = (At this point we can see he has an estimated cost of 15.7 if he continues on this scoring trend whereas his original cost is 9--these are then weighted based on games played and games left) T = 2.85 + 7.4 Trade Value = 10.21 ( ![]() Trade Value is directly comparable with a players original cost thus someone with a Trade Value of 9 is rated the same as a player that started at Cost 9. Adjusted Trade Value is what is used in the actual trade calculations and is simply Trade Value * Number of Games Left. Thus, ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
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