• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 05:32
CEST 11:32
KST 18:32
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies18Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview2herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026)5Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview5[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12
Community News
Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League0Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double0Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !18
StarCraft 2
General
herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 527 Hell Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
VPN experiences vespene.gg — BW replays in browser 25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 (Spoiler) ASL21 Winner's Interview [ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies
Tourneys
[ASL21] Grand Finals Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV ZeroSpace Megathread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software)
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Esports Organizations: Raisi…
TrAiDoS
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1318 users

UC Berkeley Starcraft Class - Page 2

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 21 22 23 Next All
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
January 22 2009 06:55 GMT
#21
hmmmmmm google maps says I can get there in 1 hour and 5 minutes...
Deleted User 31996
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
843 Posts
January 22 2009 07:05 GMT
#22
On January 22 2009 15:55 thedeadhaji wrote:
hmmmmmm google maps says I can get there in 1 hour and 5 minutes...


LMFAO
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
January 22 2009 07:09 GMT
#23
Heh. I go to Cal but I won't be in this. Just thought I'd make you all jealous.
gl hf
May the BeSt man win.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20664 Posts
January 22 2009 08:30 GMT
#24
I go to Cal but also won't be in this? haha
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5070 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-22 08:47:50
January 22 2009 08:47 GMT
#25
Just curious, what was the process involved in getting cal to allow you guys to teach a course (especially one with some "gaming" attributes)?
blagoonga123
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2068 Posts
January 22 2009 08:51 GMT
#26
i can't decide whether to do the time commitment and take the class or just show up to the labs lol
FOOL! Pain is my friend! Now let me introduce you to it!
B1nary
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada1267 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-22 09:03:09
January 22 2009 09:02 GMT
#27
How much of a commitment are we expected to make? I'm taking some pretty heavy classes so I don't know if I can spend 5 hours at a lan party every Saturday =(. Also, do you expect us to be decent at SC to enroll, because I really suck (bnet 1v1 python noobs suck).
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
January 22 2009 09:03 GMT
#28
oh my god.

I wish we had this at UCR...T_T

SOOO not cool.
Hello
SWPIGWANG
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada482 Posts
January 22 2009 09:07 GMT
#29
can someone post the course contents at some point?

I'd love to learn about the nash equilibrium strategy for SCBW, for example...
Zalfor
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States1035 Posts
January 22 2009 09:11 GMT
#30
he scammed some professor into agreeing to sponsor his course.

he ran his marines around the lurker and went 1 rine vs 1 lurker and the prof was like "wuuutt?" and so he agreed to sponsor the class.
555, kthxbai
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
January 22 2009 09:47 GMT
#31
New goal in life, go to UC Berkeley and major in SC. XD
4.0 GPA = A rank 5.0 GPA = Olympic --------- Bisu, Best, Fantasy. i ♥ oov. They can get in my BoxeR anyday.
Nimue
Profile Joined November 2007
United States34 Posts
January 22 2009 09:53 GMT
#32
How much work went into this? Well, it's been in concept for at least one semester, but I've been working heavily on it for four months, writing lesson plans, getting necessary signatures, writing the textbook, and presenting it to various department officials to approve it.

Time commitment: the labs are completely optional. My goal in the course itself is to practice analytical thinking for SC and life, just with SC examples. So, you're looking at 2 hrs lecture and 1 hr homework each week. Also, SC proficiency is not necessary.

I'll be posting the lectures and certain notes on youtube and my website, www.berkeleystarcraft.com. My math isn't good enough to investigate your "nash equilibrium strategy" for SC, although it is pretty well outlined theoretically in the text. After the class is over, I'll offer the revised text on-line for review.
However, I'm quite proud of flux calculations, macro graphs and various time-evolution equations, which, once I am sure I have no mistakes in them, I shall post. But, I have to warn you, the math that goes in is somewhere around upper division university calculus or thereabouts.

How to get a professor to sign off on a "gaming" class? Well, I did a few presentations, one to the sponsoring professor, to demonstrate the rigorousness, analysis and thought that this class can provoke. Then, I submitted various papers to the dean of the business school. After that, registered with various university offices ... it was a pain, trust me.
Invictus
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-22 11:56:26
January 22 2009 11:37 GMT
#33
oh i want this to be at UCI i'd take it
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
January 22 2009 12:24 GMT
#34
This is even cooler than Food and Wine tasting which can get 20 out of 60 credits required per semestre on my Uni!
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
QuoC
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States724 Posts
January 22 2009 17:14 GMT
#35
that guys on a mac 0_o
Dario "TLO" Wünsch -- Favorite SC2 Player
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
January 22 2009 17:27 GMT
#36
lol wow freaking awesome.
Kwidowmaker
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada978 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-22 18:16:33
January 22 2009 18:09 GMT
#37
Would you be able to upload all the notes and lectures? I'd like to follow this from half the continent away

-edit- Will this class share research you did? It seems any sort of rigorous analysis would have been done already by a progaming team or university in Korea. Have you looked at any Korean information on this (I don't imagine a team would share it, but a university should). Also, every analysis of Starcraft I have seen has been a very intuitive one, so it seems many comprimises would have to be made to attach numbers to it, was that the case? And how much do you consider the psychology involved in a match?

Thanks for this!
Kk.
TSL-Lore
Profile Joined January 2009
United States412 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-22 22:05:45
January 22 2009 22:00 GMT
#38
On January 22 2009 15:17 toopham wrote:
I dont go to Cal so I dont know but I'm assuming Haas is a program for recreational classes offer to students?

And Yosh is teaching it?
OMFG. im so fuking jealous haha


Hey Jaeyun. Guess what, That's me in the doorway of the picture posted by superiorwolf. haha, small world huh.
I want to become stronger. -Shindou Hikaru
TSL-Lore
Profile Joined January 2009
United States412 Posts
January 22 2009 22:11 GMT
#39
I'm actually helping Nimue and Yosh teach this class.
I want to become stronger. -Shindou Hikaru
Nimue
Profile Joined November 2007
United States34 Posts
January 22 2009 22:18 GMT
#40
I thought about the question Kwidowmaker posed a lot in the past, actually; why hasn't anyone done any research or calculations like I have in the past?

I think the answer is: Starcraft players, especially the pros in Korea start at a very young age, and on top of that, once they do get sucked into Starcraft, do nothing but that. Like I said, the math required is not easy, so the pros wouldn't have learned that kind of math; they would all know it intuitively and solve the equations heuristically.

Then why not the coaches or university students? I think the coaches don't do it because they want to coach the way that they learned in the first place, because they know it works; there's no need to come up with new teaching methods that might or might not work. And the university students might ... bit might ... be kind of stuck in the thinking with which they've been instilled since they first started Starcraft with so long ago. I would say it's almost like a group-think mentality, except the group-think is applicable to the whole country.

What makes me different? I'm a Physics major and my life revolves around numbers. Furthermore, I only started playing SC 3 years ago, and in the beginning a lot was on my own. So, I had no outside influence. Although that made my start very slow, the way I thought about problems was different from someone who might have been taught by a mentor or coach.

I don't mean to diminish the importance of a great coach or teacher; I've had the incredible luck to have been taught by Lore and Yosh. However, even with their influence, I think the way I approach some things is fundamentally different. Well,we'll see; I hope you guys tune in on youtube
Invictus
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 21 22 23 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 28m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 161
StarCraft: Brood War
Hyuk 1682
Killer 623
Soma 583
firebathero 380
Larva 355
Mind 147
Mini 144
actioN 121
Aegong 97
EffOrt 88
[ Show more ]
Hm[arnc] 56
sorry 54
Shinee 47
Sharp 42
JulyZerg 14
ajuk12(nOOB) 12
IntoTheRainbow 11
Rush 8
Noble 5
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2169
shoxiejesuss1019
Other Games
ceh9677
crisheroes176
Pyrionflax123
RuFF_SC235
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 31
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota235
League of Legends
• Jankos658
Upcoming Events
Universe Titan Cup
1h 28m
Rogue vs Percival
Wardi Open
2h 28m
Monday Night Weeklies
6h 28m
Replay Cast
14h 28m
Kung Fu Cup
1d 1h
GSL
1d 23h
herO vs Classic
Cure vs Clem
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
2 days
Maru vs SHIN
Zoun vs Rogue
WardiTV Spring Champion…
3 days
SKillous vs Strange
Lambo vs Strange
Ryung vs Strange
Lambo vs Ryung
Ryung vs SKillous
Lambo vs SKillous
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
Maestros of the Game
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Lambo vs SHIN
Solar vs Rogue
herO vs Clem
IPSL
5 days
ZZZero vs WorsT
Julia vs eOnzErG
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
IPSL
6 days
Dragon vs Artosis
dxtr13 vs Hawk
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 21
2026 GSL S1
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

2026 KK StarCraft Pro League
BSL Season 22
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
KK 2v2 League Season 1
YSL S3
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: King of Kings
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
Bounty Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.