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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
January 22 2009 06:55 GMT
#21
hmmmmmm google maps says I can get there in 1 hour and 5 minutes...
Deleted User 31996
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
843 Posts
January 22 2009 07:05 GMT
#22
On January 22 2009 15:55 thedeadhaji wrote:
hmmmmmm google maps says I can get there in 1 hour and 5 minutes...


LMFAO
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
January 22 2009 07:09 GMT
#23
Heh. I go to Cal but I won't be in this. Just thought I'd make you all jealous.
gl hf
May the BeSt man win.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20667 Posts
January 22 2009 08:30 GMT
#24
I go to Cal but also won't be in this? haha
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5070 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-22 08:47:50
January 22 2009 08:47 GMT
#25
Just curious, what was the process involved in getting cal to allow you guys to teach a course (especially one with some "gaming" attributes)?
blagoonga123
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2068 Posts
January 22 2009 08:51 GMT
#26
i can't decide whether to do the time commitment and take the class or just show up to the labs lol
FOOL! Pain is my friend! Now let me introduce you to it!
B1nary
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada1267 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-22 09:03:09
January 22 2009 09:02 GMT
#27
How much of a commitment are we expected to make? I'm taking some pretty heavy classes so I don't know if I can spend 5 hours at a lan party every Saturday =(. Also, do you expect us to be decent at SC to enroll, because I really suck (bnet 1v1 python noobs suck).
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
January 22 2009 09:03 GMT
#28
oh my god.

I wish we had this at UCR...T_T

SOOO not cool.
Hello
SWPIGWANG
Profile Joined June 2008
Canada482 Posts
January 22 2009 09:07 GMT
#29
can someone post the course contents at some point?

I'd love to learn about the nash equilibrium strategy for SCBW, for example...
Zalfor
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States1035 Posts
January 22 2009 09:11 GMT
#30
he scammed some professor into agreeing to sponsor his course.

he ran his marines around the lurker and went 1 rine vs 1 lurker and the prof was like "wuuutt?" and so he agreed to sponsor the class.
555, kthxbai
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
January 22 2009 09:47 GMT
#31
New goal in life, go to UC Berkeley and major in SC. XD
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Nimue
Profile Joined November 2007
United States34 Posts
January 22 2009 09:53 GMT
#32
How much work went into this? Well, it's been in concept for at least one semester, but I've been working heavily on it for four months, writing lesson plans, getting necessary signatures, writing the textbook, and presenting it to various department officials to approve it.

Time commitment: the labs are completely optional. My goal in the course itself is to practice analytical thinking for SC and life, just with SC examples. So, you're looking at 2 hrs lecture and 1 hr homework each week. Also, SC proficiency is not necessary.

I'll be posting the lectures and certain notes on youtube and my website, www.berkeleystarcraft.com. My math isn't good enough to investigate your "nash equilibrium strategy" for SC, although it is pretty well outlined theoretically in the text. After the class is over, I'll offer the revised text on-line for review.
However, I'm quite proud of flux calculations, macro graphs and various time-evolution equations, which, once I am sure I have no mistakes in them, I shall post. But, I have to warn you, the math that goes in is somewhere around upper division university calculus or thereabouts.

How to get a professor to sign off on a "gaming" class? Well, I did a few presentations, one to the sponsoring professor, to demonstrate the rigorousness, analysis and thought that this class can provoke. Then, I submitted various papers to the dean of the business school. After that, registered with various university offices ... it was a pain, trust me.
Invictus
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-22 11:56:26
January 22 2009 11:37 GMT
#33
oh i want this to be at UCI i'd take it
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
January 22 2009 12:24 GMT
#34
This is even cooler than Food and Wine tasting which can get 20 out of 60 credits required per semestre on my Uni!
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
QuoC
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States724 Posts
January 22 2009 17:14 GMT
#35
that guys on a mac 0_o
Dario "TLO" Wünsch -- Favorite SC2 Player
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
January 22 2009 17:27 GMT
#36
lol wow freaking awesome.
Kwidowmaker
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada978 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-22 18:16:33
January 22 2009 18:09 GMT
#37
Would you be able to upload all the notes and lectures? I'd like to follow this from half the continent away

-edit- Will this class share research you did? It seems any sort of rigorous analysis would have been done already by a progaming team or university in Korea. Have you looked at any Korean information on this (I don't imagine a team would share it, but a university should). Also, every analysis of Starcraft I have seen has been a very intuitive one, so it seems many comprimises would have to be made to attach numbers to it, was that the case? And how much do you consider the psychology involved in a match?

Thanks for this!
Kk.
TSL-Lore
Profile Joined January 2009
United States412 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-22 22:05:45
January 22 2009 22:00 GMT
#38
On January 22 2009 15:17 toopham wrote:
I dont go to Cal so I dont know but I'm assuming Haas is a program for recreational classes offer to students?

And Yosh is teaching it?
OMFG. im so fuking jealous haha


Hey Jaeyun. Guess what, That's me in the doorway of the picture posted by superiorwolf. haha, small world huh.
I want to become stronger. -Shindou Hikaru
TSL-Lore
Profile Joined January 2009
United States412 Posts
January 22 2009 22:11 GMT
#39
I'm actually helping Nimue and Yosh teach this class.
I want to become stronger. -Shindou Hikaru
Nimue
Profile Joined November 2007
United States34 Posts
January 22 2009 22:18 GMT
#40
I thought about the question Kwidowmaker posed a lot in the past, actually; why hasn't anyone done any research or calculations like I have in the past?

I think the answer is: Starcraft players, especially the pros in Korea start at a very young age, and on top of that, once they do get sucked into Starcraft, do nothing but that. Like I said, the math required is not easy, so the pros wouldn't have learned that kind of math; they would all know it intuitively and solve the equations heuristically.

Then why not the coaches or university students? I think the coaches don't do it because they want to coach the way that they learned in the first place, because they know it works; there's no need to come up with new teaching methods that might or might not work. And the university students might ... bit might ... be kind of stuck in the thinking with which they've been instilled since they first started Starcraft with so long ago. I would say it's almost like a group-think mentality, except the group-think is applicable to the whole country.

What makes me different? I'm a Physics major and my life revolves around numbers. Furthermore, I only started playing SC 3 years ago, and in the beginning a lot was on my own. So, I had no outside influence. Although that made my start very slow, the way I thought about problems was different from someone who might have been taught by a mentor or coach.

I don't mean to diminish the importance of a great coach or teacher; I've had the incredible luck to have been taught by Lore and Yosh. However, even with their influence, I think the way I approach some things is fundamentally different. Well,we'll see; I hope you guys tune in on youtube
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