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Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
May 13 2010 16:08 GMT
#841
something i already mentioned in the other thread: since last seasons msl finals, flash has lost 1 tvz and 1 tvp.
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
May 13 2010 16:21 GMT
#842
On May 14 2010 00:55 niteReloaded wrote:
holy.fucking.shit

[image loading]

Savior at his peak, right after he beat nada and right before he got beaten by Bisu.

vs T 65.7%
vs Z 60.3%
vs P 75.5%
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9056 Posts
May 13 2010 16:37 GMT
#843
On what chart is Free #3?
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
May 13 2010 16:38 GMT
#844
On May 14 2010 01:37 Garnet wrote:
On what chart is Free #3?

http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/players/detailed-elo
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
May 13 2010 16:44 GMT
#845
On May 14 2010 01:21 StylishVODs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2010 00:55 niteReloaded wrote:
holy.fucking.shit

[image loading]

Savior at his peak, right after he beat nada and right before he got beaten by Bisu.

vs T 65.7%
vs Z 60.3%
vs P 75.5%

sick

And I doubt Savior ever had the 'recent games page' lookin as scary as Flash's does now...
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
May 13 2010 16:58 GMT
#846
Honestly, Jaedong's "Recent games page" is quite scary as well right now... a pity he's not godly vs T ;-/

I really feel they both deserve the B word, one for being at the top for 2+ straight years, always being challenged, be it by bisu, flash or even stork, but still being at the top of his game and setting the pace for such a long period of time, except these last few months ; and the other one for his sheer domination since september...
NoiR
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
May 13 2010 17:01 GMT
#847
On January 04 2009 11:05 isbunk wrote:
KIM TAEK YONG COME ON. SEND FLASH BACK TO HIS MOM!

Thats never gonna happen
"EE HAN TIMING" Jaedong vs Stork [22 December, 2007] 2set @ Finals EVER OSL.
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
May 13 2010 17:03 GMT
#848
On May 14 2010 01:58 Nouar wrote:
Honestly, Jaedong's "Recent games page" is quite scary as well right now... a pity he's not godly vs T ;-/

I really feel they both deserve the B word, one for being at the top for 2+ straight years, always being challenged, be it by bisu, flash or even stork, but still being at the top of his game and setting the pace for such a long period of time, except these last few months ; and the other one for his sheer domination since september...

Haha, oh wow.

I'm sorry but Jaedong is nowhere near close to bonjwa level. The best case scenario for him would be an MSL win, which would still not be enough.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-13 17:36:43
May 13 2010 17:05 GMT
#849
Motherfreaking 2443. Freak...

Edit: mistyped a number.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
May 13 2010 17:13 GMT
#850
On May 14 2010 02:03 J1.au wrote:

Haha, oh wow.

I'm sorry but Jaedong is nowhere near close to bonjwa level. The best case scenario for him would be an MSL win, which would still not be enough.

Right *now* maybe not, but honestly these past 2 years, was someone honestly scarier ?
Well whatever.
NoiR
JFKWT
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore1442 Posts
May 13 2010 17:22 GMT
#851
On May 14 2010 02:05 flamewheel91 wrote:
Motherfreaking 2443. Freak...

Incredible
The calm before the storm / "loli is not a crime, but meganekko is the way to go!"
Beachac
Profile Joined June 2009
United States278 Posts
May 13 2010 18:08 GMT
#852
jaedong was playing better in 2009, but he's definitely stepping it up. however, jaedong has never shown the consistency and domination flash has been showing right now. so how can jaedong be labeled as bonjwa with the skeptism about even bestowing the title on flash?
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
May 13 2010 18:14 GMT
#853
Why the title isn't given out nowadays is probably based on nostalgia of the concept.
People want to remember the good old times as better, but they should embrace this moment since we're reliving such a dominance, but on a higher level.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
May 13 2010 18:16 GMT
#854
Honestly as a Jaedong fan, I dont really care, Flash is the more dominant and more solid player overall and is worthy of being a super bonjwa.

However, I want Jaedong to be the GOAT, and the guy that is invincible in bo5s, and the most successful player ever, so he'll have to take down the monster in a bo5 again in the MSL finals. Does Jaedong have it in him? He always did, and he always stepped up when it came to the real series.

I'm sad JD's vP peak got broken though T_T, but thats mainly due to him not getting any ZvPs at all this season. He just needs to crush Flash in another bo5 to keep that vZ peak though.
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
May 13 2010 18:17 GMT
#855
On May 14 2010 03:14 StylishVODs wrote:
Why the title isn't given out nowadays is probably based on nostalgia of the concept.
People want to remember the good old times as better, but they should embrace this moment since we're reliving such a dominance, but on a higher level.



Very true. I'm not fussed about it though to be honest, I think once people are able to get some hindsight everyone will end up agreeing on what ought to be obvious right now
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
scDeluX
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada1341 Posts
May 13 2010 18:19 GMT
#856
Has Flash been the only one to ever get 2400?

He is at his peak right now so winning those MSL matches may get him to 2500?
Brood War is forever
Volshok
Profile Joined August 2008
United States349 Posts
May 13 2010 18:28 GMT
#857
I'm actually more terrified to see Flash's Kespa rating if we wins all of these series, it's going to be beyond absurd if he pulls it off.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=123657
Fumi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
529 Posts
May 13 2010 18:36 GMT
#858
On May 14 2010 03:19 [Z]-NhaT wrote:
Has Flash been the only one to ever get 2400?

He is at his peak right now so winning those MSL matches may get him to 2500?

Yeah, he's the only one. And no, it's gonna take a bit to get to 2500, though if he 3-0s in both finals he's gonna be pretty close, I think. Also, this is the 9th time Flash breaks the ELO record.
Flash, Stats, Reach, Tossgirl <> Boxer, Nestea, MC, Foxer fangirl | http://osu.ppy.sh/u/181432
520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
May 13 2010 18:44 GMT
#859
No, it's going to be a huge trial for him to get 2500. The higher your Elo is relative to the players you play against, the less Elo gain you win from winning a game and the more Elo you lose from losing a game. Consider Jaedong is second in Elo and is still over 100 points behind him, and Free is third in Elo and is over 200 points behind him. He doesn't get THAT much Elo from winning a game, but as soon as he loses one, his Elo drops by 10-20 points because of the difference.
Writer
Wings
Profile Joined January 2010
United States999 Posts
May 13 2010 18:49 GMT
#860
On May 14 2010 03:44 scintilliaSD wrote:
No, it's going to be a huge trial for him to get 2500. The higher your Elo is relative to the players you play against, the less Elo gain you win from winning a game and the more Elo you lose from losing a game. Consider Jaedong is second in Elo and is still over 100 points behind him, and Free is third in Elo and is over 200 points behind him. He doesn't get THAT much Elo from winning a game, but as soon as he loses one, his Elo drops by 10-20 points because of the difference.

I'm pretty sure 2500 is literally impossible
By that point in time, it would seem that even if he beats JD he'll barely get any ELO points. Probably, if he gets to 2475 or something, then at that point every win will probably be at max 1 or 2 points, with a loss being 15-20 points lol. But I guess... its physically possible... if he like 50-0's his opponents
The probability of Kim Carrier getting all those predictions wrong is similar to the probability Flash loses a TvT. Kim Carrier MUST BE a genius. His only big mistake... STORK.
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