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StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
April 23 2010 14:22 GMT
#741
It's been bumped when he's close to a new record but failed aswell.
Anyway, try to not search teamliquid.net forums if you don't want anything spoiled. Keep your eyes on the small vod thread or search on jon747's account on youtube.

You shouldn't search a starcraft pro-gaming site if you wish to be kept in the dark about the games...
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
April 23 2010 14:25 GMT
#742
How is it possible to spoil the result of a Flash game these days? XD Kid doesn't lose.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
April 23 2010 14:29 GMT
#743
On April 23 2010 22:31 ~ava wrote:
Ditto, OSL result ruined by this thread bump...

You dont know if its flash fanboys posting "AW SHUCKS HE COULD HAVE BROKEN IT AGAIN"
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
HeadhunteR
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Argentina1258 Posts
April 23 2010 15:06 GMT
#744
if only other things in life were as certain as Flash winning..
in The Kong line forever
Gigaudas
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Sweden1213 Posts
April 23 2010 16:18 GMT
#745
I didn't think being so dominant was possible in ZvT, TvP or PvZ. This milestone that is 70% TvP says a great deal about how hard BW is to master and how well balanced it is!

Comparing him to Jaedong though, I think being this dominant in ZvT is impossible. Winning 9 pool to 1 rax expand is just too hard and playing 12 hatch every game is just too weak to cheese. Jaedong could've had a win% nearly as good as this once upon a time if not for ZvT.
Jaedong still has higher vP and vZ ELO peaks.
I
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
April 23 2010 16:27 GMT
#746
That's just bullshit. Watch Jaedong's 10 last games vs T, he has been straight up outplayed in 6 of them.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Gigaudas
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Sweden1213 Posts
April 23 2010 16:29 GMT
#747
On April 24 2010 01:27 Holgerius wrote:
That's just bullshit. Watch Jaedong's 10 last games vs T, he has been straight up outplayed in 6 of them.


I did say "once upon a time".

He's most definitely not in the form of his life right now. There's no way he could reach his old vZ peak either.
I
bentnormal
Profile Joined December 2009
112 Posts
April 24 2010 08:07 GMT
#748
Ok, so we have a new all-time and vs terran (all-time again) peaks for the little monster.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
April 24 2010 08:10 GMT
#749
Holy fuck, 2433.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Monsen
Profile Joined December 2002
Germany2548 Posts
April 24 2010 09:56 GMT
#750
On April 24 2010 17:10 flamewheel91 wrote:
Holy fuck, 2433.


200 Points above #3. I guess we can start betting if Flash will lose ever again.
11 years and counting- TL #680
KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
April 24 2010 10:04 GMT
#751
Anyone who is really familiar with the system who would mind estimating the amount of point inflation (if there even is any) the last say 8 years?
I find it kind of cool that Yellow (the real one) still holds the second highest vT peak of all time.
"Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of their leaders ... All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger."
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
April 24 2010 10:15 GMT
#752
On April 24 2010 18:56 Monsen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2010 17:10 flamewheel91 wrote:
Holy fuck, 2433.


200 Points above #3. I guess we can start betting if Flash will lose ever again.


Oh Flash will lose, some meaningless game in BoXs.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Kwanroller
Profile Joined April 2010
Afghanistan459 Posts
April 24 2010 10:42 GMT
#753
On April 24 2010 18:56 Monsen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2010 17:10 flamewheel91 wrote:
Holy fuck, 2433.


200 Points above #3. I guess we can start betting if Flash will lose ever again.


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jtan
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Sweden5891 Posts
April 24 2010 10:53 GMT
#754
This kid is totally unbeatable right now
Enter a Uh
gravity
Profile Joined March 2004
Australia2330 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-24 10:54:00
April 24 2010 10:53 GMT
#755
On April 24 2010 19:04 KlaCkoN wrote:
Anyone who is really familiar with the system who would mind estimating the amount of point inflation (if there even is any) the last say 8 years?
I find it kind of cool that Yellow (the real one) still holds the second highest vT peak of all time.

I did this once, I think there was about 10-15 points of inflation at most. Flash being 200 points above #3 is amazing.
Furthermore, tournaments should use matchup-specific maps
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-04-24 11:25:01
April 24 2010 11:18 GMT
#756
On April 24 2010 19:53 gravity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2010 19:04 KlaCkoN wrote:
Anyone who is really familiar with the system who would mind estimating the amount of point inflation (if there even is any) the last say 8 years?
I find it kind of cool that Yellow (the real one) still holds the second highest vT peak of all time.

I did this once, I think there was about 10-15 points of inflation at most. Flash being 200 points above #3 is amazing.


I did the calculations back around pages 5-7 or so.

There are about ~27 points of inflation approximately last february (this is total since the system started by the way so the first games are back in '01 IIRC). There is probably another 1-8 from that time until now (depending on how many people retired).

Safe to say though Flash is the strongest player of all time. By far. Bringing up the next it is likely:

Oov was a bit above Bisu and JD who were a bit above Nada who was a bit above Savior.

Bisu and JD actually have had a couple periods of long streaks of dominance. I know I mapped it out once where Bisu went about 77% over 100 game period and JD had around 75%. Oov had a monstrous 79 or 80% over 100 games.

We have to remember despite his dominance savior actually lost A LOT of games in series, but he pretty much won every bo3/bo5. That's why his peak is relatively low compared to the others; losing of 1-2 games in each bo3/bo5 hurts ELO peak. Although you could argue he had bad maps too... and won everything that counted (unlike Bisu/JD)
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Demand2k
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Norway875 Posts
April 24 2010 12:09 GMT
#757
On April 24 2010 19:04 KlaCkoN wrote:
Anyone who is really familiar with the system who would mind estimating the amount of point inflation (if there even is any) the last say 8 years?
I find it kind of cool that Yellow (the real one) still holds the second highest vT peak of all time.


I honestly don't think that's too relevant, seeing as competition these days are alot harder.
revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
April 24 2010 12:44 GMT
#758
Flash Oct 1 - Today -- 97 games played.

Record: 81 wins - 16 losses (83.51%)
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
April 24 2010 12:50 GMT
#759
On April 24 2010 21:44 revy wrote:
Flash Oct 1 - Today -- 97 games played.

Record: 81 wins - 16 losses (83.51%)


good lord. next stop, 2500 ELO
jesus unfuckingbelievable, and he isn't even such a high APM guy like jd or nada (afaik). I mean, nowadays where ppl play with an average 300-350 APM you would expect someone having a 80% winning rate to be SO MUCH faster than your everyday pro gamer.
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
April 24 2010 12:59 GMT
#760
On April 24 2010 21:50 Djin)ftw( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2010 21:44 revy wrote:
Flash Oct 1 - Today -- 97 games played.

Record: 81 wins - 16 losses (83.51%)


good lord. next stop, 2500 ELO
jesus unfuckingbelievable, and he isn't even such a high APM guy like jd or nada (afaik). I mean, nowadays where ppl play with an average 300-350 APM you would expect someone having a 80% winning rate to be SO MUCH faster than your everyday pro gamer.

It is odd. I can only assume that the"faster" progamers spam far more than Flash does. He is probably very efficient.
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