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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 10 2010 08:26 GMT
#641
On March 10 2010 17:11 Kyuukyuu wrote:
My friends and I, bored one day, decided to list Flash's (among others') last ~5 losses in each matchup. You know someone's scary when you can distinctly remember each loss, what map, what strategy was used, etc. Kid is a beast.

It was also fun listing Jaedong's last vT losses. "Flash Flash Flash Sea Flash" lolol

You missed Darkelf lol.
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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
March 10 2010 08:29 GMT
#642
Now that you mention PL starting on 2009-08-27.... Flash's record since then has been

64 wins - 15 losses (81.01%)
vT 15 wins - 2 losses (88.24%)
vZ 32 wins - 7 losses (82.05%)
vP 17 wins - 6 losses (73.91%)

Now let's take a trip down memory lane....
Remember this?
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Fx_
Profile Joined April 2008
503 Posts
March 10 2010 08:49 GMT
#643
On March 10 2010 17:29 EtherealDeath wrote:
Now that you mention PL starting on 2009-08-27.... Flash's record since then has been

64 wins - 15 losses (81.01%)
vT 15 wins - 2 losses (88.24%)
vZ 32 wins - 7 losses (82.05%)
vP 17 wins - 6 losses (73.91%)

Now let's take a trip down memory lane....
Remember this?
+ Show Spoiler [Bananas] +

[image loading]



great comparison!
Power is your Intelligence
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
March 10 2010 09:27 GMT
#644
On March 10 2010 17:13 maps wrote:
M18M just ruins that list. Such a random person to get beaten by lmao.

Not really. Despite not being a top notch player overall, his PvT is extremely good. At the very least it doesn't look any worse than his loss to HyuN.
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kyzers0ze
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Singapore1073 Posts
March 10 2010 09:35 GMT
#645
2417
record broken for the 3rd time now?
8==========))
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
March 10 2010 10:28 GMT
#646
On March 10 2010 17:13 maps wrote:
M18M just ruins that list. Such a random person to get beaten by lmao.


M18M is ridiculously good at pvt
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-10 11:21:24
March 10 2010 11:19 GMT
#647
On March 10 2010 19:28 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2010 17:13 maps wrote:
M18M just ruins that list. Such a random person to get beaten by lmao.


M18M is ridiculously good at pvt


that game against flash was still very lucky and quite... silly

anyways, 2417, thats pretty sick, hes such a monster right now
beep boop
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
March 10 2010 11:35 GMT
#648
To think that Flash once went on a six game losing streak. These days it's surprising if he even loses more than one game out of six. Literally, his win:loss ratio since October is 5:1.

Another funny thing is that his TvP ELO is 16 points below his peak even after defeating Kal and Shuttle today. He dropped something like 30 points in that matchup by losing to M18M.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
3nickma
Profile Joined November 2007
Denmark1510 Posts
March 11 2010 20:16 GMT
#649
Wow just wow! Was looking through JD's recent game to see what I've been missing. It seemed okay so just for fun I'd check his current Elo. Lol was totally blown away seeing Flash's sick, sick performance! Damn he's on fire beyond compare...
L E E J A E D O N G ! <3
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8056 Posts
March 11 2010 20:24 GMT
#650
I don't think anybody has been doing that well for a long, long, long time. And that's the first time also for a loooong time that nobody has alone dominated the scene that way. Jaedong is not even close this month.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-11 20:34:18
March 11 2010 20:31 GMT
#651
I haven't been in the Flash threads for a while... is he finally considered bonjwa?
I think he really deserves the title now, without any doubt. I don't think even Jaedong at his best caused his opponents to shit themselves before the match like Flash does now..

On March 10 2010 19:28 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2010 17:13 maps wrote:
M18M just ruins that list. Such a random person to get beaten by lmao.


M18M is ridiculously good at pvt

plus, the kid obviously used all his practice time perfecting an alternative build that is built specifically for countering Flash. Almost a hard counter to the timings Flash relies on.

His build would suck as a standard build.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
March 11 2010 20:33 GMT
#652
As most people have said, no community will fully recognize him as Bonjwa until he gets 2 more titles or so.
Remember Violet.
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
March 11 2010 20:48 GMT
#653
Jaedong has won as many starleagues in the last three seasons as Savior won in his three best, and Flash gets the bonjwa talk.

I am slightly amused.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
Too_MuchZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Finland2818 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-11 20:55:25
March 11 2010 20:49 GMT
#654
Whoever wins Flash gonna get huge amount of points

Though flash "only" 2nd in XvP matchup rankings Jaedong being first.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
March 11 2010 20:58 GMT
#655
On March 12 2010 05:48 Mindcrime wrote:
Jaedong has won as many starleagues in the last three seasons as Savior won in his three best, and Flash gets the bonjwa talk.

I am slightly amused.


People were also giving Jaedong the bonjwa talk the whole time too so basically you're making no sense.

Jaedong's thing was he has a lot of titles, typical of a bonjwa. Flash's current thing is he's dominating with the amazing sense of ease and consistency, characterized by bonjwaness.

Neither of them have the combination of RapeWithEase(Jaedong, despite many wins, has struggled the whole way through) + Lots of titles (Obviously Flash only has 2, separated by over a year, but he's destroying and still has a good period of time to get titles).
Remember Violet.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
March 11 2010 21:04 GMT
#656
On March 12 2010 05:58 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2010 05:48 Mindcrime wrote:
Jaedong has won as many starleagues in the last three seasons as Savior won in his three best, and Flash gets the bonjwa talk.

I am slightly amused.


People were also giving Jaedong the bonjwa talk the whole time too so basically you're making no sense.

Jaedong's thing was he has a lot of titles, typical of a bonjwa. Flash's current thing is he's dominating with the amazing sense of ease and consistency, characterized by bonjwaness.

Neither of them have the combination of RapeWithEase(Jaedong, despite many wins, has struggled the whole way through) + Lots of titles (Obviously Flash only has 2, separated by over a year, but he's destroying and still has a good period of time to get titles).



JD pulling off the most dominant SL run ever means struggling to you?
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
March 11 2010 21:10 GMT
#657
On March 12 2010 05:58 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Neither of them have the combination of RapeWithEase(Jaedong, despite many wins, has struggled the whole way through) + Lots of titles (Obviously Flash only has 2, separated by over a year, but he's destroying and still has a good period of time to get titles).


In early '07, Savior didn't have that combination either. He struggled against both Hwasin and Iris in 3-2 series, but those are the two series, the one with Iris especially, that I think of when I think of Savior the bonjwa.
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
yoshi_yoshi
Profile Joined January 2010
United States440 Posts
March 11 2010 21:36 GMT
#658
It's just that they both exist at the same time, so it's hard to assign bonjwa.

Imagine a hypothetical scenario where two players have 95% win rates, their only losses being to each other. Neither of them could be called bonjwa the way that I understand the word, but there has to be another term for it.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
March 11 2010 21:39 GMT
#659
If Flash reachs 2450elo, I will call him a bonjwa regardless of what others say
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
March 11 2010 21:41 GMT
#660
No one will break Flash's ELO peak. By the time anyone will even come close, it will be all SC2.
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