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tirentu
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1257 Posts
January 01 2010 21:12 GMT
#501
On January 02 2010 06:06 dukethegold wrote:
At the rate that Flash is playing, I wouldn't be surprised if he reaches 2400. O.o

Btw, I heard that if Flash 3-0 Calm last night, he would have reached 2400, is that true?


Seems unlikely. And really, despite his incredibly beyond perfect play, I doubt any Terran could 3-0 Calm, given the way he was playing last night.
kOre
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada3642 Posts
January 01 2010 21:15 GMT
#502
I would say if Flash wins about 5 more games against current top 5 elo players he makes 2400? Not 100% sure how the ELO system here works, just a guess.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
January 01 2010 21:19 GMT
#503
On December 18 2009 18:06 cz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2009 14:01 BloodDrunK wrote:
flash might just peak 2400 at this level.


no chance whatsoever

if he loses vs Jaedong he loses like 20+ pts. If he loses to any random 2200 player (ie top 10-15 player) he loses 30 pts or so. If he wins he gets like 4-5 pts.

doesn't seem like "no chance whatsoever" because he's at 2392
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hyst.eric.al
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2332 Posts
January 01 2010 21:20 GMT
#504
didn't effort reach 2300+ ELO too?

and if flash hits 2400 my brain will explode?
Leta , BeSt, Calm fan forever! 김정우, I am sorry I ever lost faith in you.
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
January 01 2010 21:23 GMT
#505
Flash will hit 2400. He will beat FBH, and win his series against Best while dropping a game. That will tank him slightly but leave him within striking distance of 2400, which he'll achieve when he 3-0's the OSL finals and picks up another PL game or two. (Also Flash vs Light or Kwanro will likely be 3-0 as well.)
May the BeSt man win.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
January 01 2010 21:29 GMT
#506
On December 27 2009 10:45 nebffa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2009 09:09 Orbifold wrote:
On December 26 2009 02:14 SuperArc wrote:
On December 26 2009 02:10 Holgerius wrote:
Flash is indeed playing the best SC ever right now.


He is playing the best TvZ and TvT ever.

To have the best SC he needs to complete his TvP. Until then, no it isnt the best ever YET. This is why JD is a beast, after the OSL final against Stork, hes never had a weak matchup anymore.



haha... superarc hates flash so hard, it must feel like a fiery burning deep in his tummy.


but what he says is true. jaedong has no player that he is consistently weak against. flash on the other hand, has stork, best, jangbi. all protosses.


What is wrong with you people? Do you watch the same starcraft everyone else does?

You only consider Flash's TvP "weak" because it's not as inhuman as his TvZ and TvT is...
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
SimonB
Profile Joined September 2008
United States1088 Posts
January 01 2010 21:36 GMT
#507
That pathetic 66% win percentage with the third highest ELO against Protoss. Man, that Flash sure is a two-trick pony without a good vP matchup.
Trezeguet
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2656 Posts
January 01 2010 21:52 GMT
#508
On January 02 2010 06:36 SimonB wrote:
That pathetic 66% win percentage with the third highest ELO against Protoss. Man, that Flash sure is a two-trick pony without a good vP matchup.

I know what you mean man. He really needs to shape up otherwise this slump will never end.
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
January 01 2010 22:47 GMT
#509
Lol flash TvP noob

JD invincible against all race

kekke
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
January 01 2010 22:51 GMT
#510
I doubt he'll be hitting 2400 off of Best. He needs to beat FBH and Best 2 games running to break it, I believe, and I have a hard time imagining Flash 3-0ing Best handily.
Remember Violet.
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
January 01 2010 23:14 GMT
#511
wow Flash is roflstomping the past elo peak. I wonder if that new TvP midlate game management strategy is ready.
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
January 01 2010 23:27 GMT
#512
Don't know if it's been stated before, but a month ago or so (and before) TL adjusted the ELO calculations, so the stated ELO peaks in the OP should be different from what TLPD shows now. Everyone's ELO went up by approx 20.
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-01 23:29:55
January 01 2010 23:28 GMT
#513
On January 02 2010 06:19 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2009 18:06 cz wrote:
On December 12 2009 14:01 BloodDrunK wrote:
flash might just peak 2400 at this level.


no chance whatsoever

if he loses vs Jaedong he loses like 20+ pts. If he loses to any random 2200 player (ie top 10-15 player) he loses 30 pts or so. If he wins he gets like 4-5 pts.

doesn't seem like "no chance whatsoever" because he's at 2392


Well, to be fair, that was from Dec 18. Still I think 2400 is very hard to hit, even at 2392. Now I'm in a tough competition: I stated that Flash wouldn't hit 2400, but I'm a huge Flash fan... hmm.

And yeah he would have easily hit 2400, prob 2410+, if he had 3-0'd Calm. Not so much from getting more points, but form avoiding that giant ELO hit he took by losing the one game.
Djin)ftw(
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Germany3357 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-01 23:42:27
January 01 2010 23:37 GMT
#514
On January 02 2010 06:29 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2009 10:45 nebffa wrote:
On December 26 2009 02:14 SuperArc wrote:

To have the best SC he needs to complete his TvP. Until then, no it isnt the best ever YET. This is why JD is a beast, after the OSL final against Stork, hes never had a weak matchup anymore.


but what he says is true. jaedong has no player that he is consistently weak against. flash on the other hand, has stork, best, jangbi. all protosses.


What is wrong with you people? Do you watch the same starcraft everyone else does?

You only consider Flash's TvP "weak" because it's not as inhuman as his TvZ and TvT is...

how dare u defending flash and his tvp? how dare u? flash is consistently weak against every decent protoss like stork (8-11, winning 1 OSL title against him with 3-0), best (1-3) or jangbi (1-2).

yes, i know. it's hard to face the truth, but: flash's tvp is just not good. in fact, it's bad. who was it who won on katrina when every other t got raped? which terran has the highest vp ELO until now? who won his OSL final 3-0 against stork while the overhyped fantasy lost 2--3? yes that is also flash, but you get my point: his 66% overall winning rate in tvp is nothing ok? if he ever gets to 62.7%like jaedong in zvt (who has no weak matchup since his first OSL title) ONLY THEN you can say his tvp is on par with his tvz/tvt
"jk CLG best mindgames using the baron to counterthrow" - boesthius
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
January 02 2010 00:13 GMT
#515
On January 02 2010 08:37 Djin)ftw( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2010 06:29 Jayme wrote:
On December 27 2009 10:45 nebffa wrote:
On December 26 2009 02:14 SuperArc wrote:

To have the best SC he needs to complete his TvP. Until then, no it isnt the best ever YET. This is why JD is a beast, after the OSL final against Stork, hes never had a weak matchup anymore.


but what he says is true. jaedong has no player that he is consistently weak against. flash on the other hand, has stork, best, jangbi. all protosses.


What is wrong with you people? Do you watch the same starcraft everyone else does?

You only consider Flash's TvP "weak" because it's not as inhuman as his TvZ and TvT is...

how dare u defending flash and his tvp? how dare u? flash is consistently weak against every decent protoss like stork (8-11, winning 1 OSL title against him with 3-0), best (1-3) or jangbi (1-2).

yes, i know. it's hard to face the truth, but: flash's tvp is just not good. in fact, it's bad. who was it who won on katrina when every other t got raped? which terran has the highest vp ELO until now? who won his OSL final 3-0 against stork while the overhyped fantasy lost 2--3? yes that is also flash, but you get my point: his 66% overall winning rate in tvp is nothing ok? if he ever gets to 62.7%like jaedong in zvt (who has no weak matchup since his first OSL title) ONLY THEN you can say his tvp is on par with his tvz/tvt


Yeah, Flash is seriously just a lucky ass player. He gets far in tourneys solely because he gets easy fucking draws. Like July's EVER OSL run but x1000. He's just a cheese turtler who goes BBS and then 3/3 200/200 push. And not only that but his opponents just park mutalisks over his mnm and do nothing. Not even shoot! It's no wonder Flash can kill zerg!
cgrinker
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3824 Posts
January 02 2010 00:24 GMT
#516
You made this thread exactly one year ago today!

That confused me when I was reading it.
MamiyaOtaru
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1687 Posts
January 02 2010 01:42 GMT
#517
On January 02 2010 09:24 cgrinker wrote:
You made this thread exactly one year ago today!

That confused me when I was reading it.

4 == 2 now you heard it here
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
January 02 2010 01:50 GMT
#518
On January 02 2010 09:13 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2010 08:37 Djin)ftw( wrote:
On January 02 2010 06:29 Jayme wrote:
On December 27 2009 10:45 nebffa wrote:
On December 26 2009 02:14 SuperArc wrote:

To have the best SC he needs to complete his TvP. Until then, no it isnt the best ever YET. This is why JD is a beast, after the OSL final against Stork, hes never had a weak matchup anymore.


but what he says is true. jaedong has no player that he is consistently weak against. flash on the other hand, has stork, best, jangbi. all protosses.


What is wrong with you people? Do you watch the same starcraft everyone else does?

You only consider Flash's TvP "weak" because it's not as inhuman as his TvZ and TvT is...

how dare u defending flash and his tvp? how dare u? flash is consistently weak against every decent protoss like stork (8-11, winning 1 OSL title against him with 3-0), best (1-3) or jangbi (1-2).

yes, i know. it's hard to face the truth, but: flash's tvp is just not good. in fact, it's bad. who was it who won on katrina when every other t got raped? which terran has the highest vp ELO until now? who won his OSL final 3-0 against stork while the overhyped fantasy lost 2--3? yes that is also flash, but you get my point: his 66% overall winning rate in tvp is nothing ok? if he ever gets to 62.7%like jaedong in zvt (who has no weak matchup since his first OSL title) ONLY THEN you can say his tvp is on par with his tvz/tvt


Yeah, Flash is seriously just a lucky ass player. He gets far in tourneys solely because he gets easy fucking draws. Like July's EVER OSL run but x1000. He's just a cheese turtler who goes BBS and then 3/3 200/200 push. And not only that but his opponents just park mutalisks over his mnm and do nothing. Not even shoot! It's no wonder Flash can kill zerg!

Yeah, Flash is basically Neo-Casy with spiffy TvT.
[Azn]Nada
Profile Joined April 2009
United States275 Posts
January 02 2010 01:52 GMT
#519
Flash made himself famous vs. Protoss because his fast upgraded Goliaths vs Carriers was considered revolutionary at a time where every Terran facepalmed to Carriers. Recently, I haven't watched Flash play that amazing against Protoss, but hopefully, his skill in TvT and TvZ is an indicator that his TvP has recently improved as well. And he had some new build" against Protoss that he's going to unveil someday.
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
January 02 2010 01:56 GMT
#520
Progamers are known for being streaky.

The thing about Flash is that I find him even more streaky than most. He spends most of his time being a bit inconsistent, playing very well in general but dropping a lot of games he shouldn't drop. Then he will suddenly bust out with god-like play that blows away all the competition and makes you think "bonjwa." But he doesn't maintain it.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
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