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On January 04 2009 11:21 Hot_Bid wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2009 11:17 BanZu wrote:
Anyone know how ELO is calculated? Like how much BiSu would get from beating Movie? If Bisu beats Movie, he'll be at 2294 If Bisu loses to Movie, he'll be at 2270 I haven't done the what-ifs with Flash. I'm certain though, if Bisu beats Movie then beats Flash in Game 1 on Medusa, he'll break 2300. If he loses to Movie and then 2-0's Flash, he'll probably still break 2300. I think he could go as high as 2320 if he goes 3-0 tonight.
if beating movie puts him at 2294 an ace match win would also put him over wouldnt it
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Hard to know who to root for in flash vs bisu. I love both their plays alot. If Bisu can't secure an advantage early game Flash will win it like he did before in series between them. But Bisu will break 2300 eventually - there simply aren't much people around who can take games from him.
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On January 04 2009 11:35 IdrA wrote:
if beating movie puts him at 2294 an ace match win would also put him over wouldnt it
That is correct.
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I think it'll happen. I believe!
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On January 04 2009 11:35 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2009 11:21 Hot_Bid wrote:On January 04 2009 11:17 BanZu wrote:
Anyone know how ELO is calculated? Like how much BiSu would get from beating Movie? If Bisu beats Movie, he'll be at 2294 If Bisu loses to Movie, he'll be at 2270 I haven't done the what-ifs with Flash. I'm certain though, if Bisu beats Movie then beats Flash in Game 1 on Medusa, he'll break 2300. If he loses to Movie and then 2-0's Flash, he'll probably still break 2300. I think he could go as high as 2320 if he goes 3-0 tonight. if beating movie puts him at 2294 an ace match win would also put him over wouldnt it
I would think they would send out Best since Best can take anyone from CJ + they want to give Bisu a break.
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Flash will go on a TvP all-kill and win GOM, win either the OSL/MSL and become the ultimate weapon once again.
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On January 04 2009 11:39 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2009 11:35 IdrA wrote:On January 04 2009 11:21 Hot_Bid wrote:On January 04 2009 11:17 BanZu wrote:
Anyone know how ELO is calculated? Like how much BiSu would get from beating Movie? If Bisu beats Movie, he'll be at 2294 If Bisu loses to Movie, he'll be at 2270 I haven't done the what-ifs with Flash. I'm certain though, if Bisu beats Movie then beats Flash in Game 1 on Medusa, he'll break 2300. If he loses to Movie and then 2-0's Flash, he'll probably still break 2300. I think he could go as high as 2320 if he goes 3-0 tonight. if beating movie puts him at 2294 an ace match win would also put him over wouldnt it I would think they would send out Best since Best can take anyone from CJ + they want to give Bisu a break.
Probably Iris v BeSt or EffOrt v BeSt.
I think EffOrt would beat BeSt ez, since BeSt has shit PvZ.
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On January 04 2009 11:39 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2009 11:35 IdrA wrote:On January 04 2009 11:21 Hot_Bid wrote:On January 04 2009 11:17 BanZu wrote:
Anyone know how ELO is calculated? Like how much BiSu would get from beating Movie? If Bisu beats Movie, he'll be at 2294 If Bisu loses to Movie, he'll be at 2270 I haven't done the what-ifs with Flash. I'm certain though, if Bisu beats Movie then beats Flash in Game 1 on Medusa, he'll break 2300. If he loses to Movie and then 2-0's Flash, he'll probably still break 2300. I think he could go as high as 2320 if he goes 3-0 tonight. if beating movie puts him at 2294 an ace match win would also put him over wouldnt it I would think they would send out Best since Best can take anyone from CJ + they want to give Bisu a break.
bisu would be a better choice, not like hed have to fear a terran on medusa, better go with the pvz specialist. theyre both in this and they both have gom later so its not like one needs a break more than the other.
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On January 04 2009 11:46 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2009 11:39 Avidkeystamper wrote:On January 04 2009 11:35 IdrA wrote:On January 04 2009 11:21 Hot_Bid wrote:On January 04 2009 11:17 BanZu wrote:
Anyone know how ELO is calculated? Like how much BiSu would get from beating Movie? If Bisu beats Movie, he'll be at 2294 If Bisu loses to Movie, he'll be at 2270 I haven't done the what-ifs with Flash. I'm certain though, if Bisu beats Movie then beats Flash in Game 1 on Medusa, he'll break 2300. If he loses to Movie and then 2-0's Flash, he'll probably still break 2300. I think he could go as high as 2320 if he goes 3-0 tonight. if beating movie puts him at 2294 an ace match win would also put him over wouldnt it I would think they would send out Best since Best can take anyone from CJ + they want to give Bisu a break. bisu would be a better choice, not like hed have to fear a terran on medusa, better go with the pvz specialist. theyre both in this and they both have gom later so its not like one needs a break more than the other.
Good point, but I wanna see Best PvZ to see if he's improved.
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Flash vs any Terran player is an absolute treat to watch, I'm having a hard time waiting for it.
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Get it done, Kim Taek Yong.
Thanks for the update, Hot Bid. This peak is interesting because it's happened the second time Bisu's "peaked" - after beating Savior/Stork, he declined and now he's back.
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On January 04 2009 11:46 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2009 11:39 Avidkeystamper wrote:On January 04 2009 11:35 IdrA wrote:On January 04 2009 11:21 Hot_Bid wrote:On January 04 2009 11:17 BanZu wrote:
Anyone know how ELO is calculated? Like how much BiSu would get from beating Movie? If Bisu beats Movie, he'll be at 2294 If Bisu loses to Movie, he'll be at 2270 I haven't done the what-ifs with Flash. I'm certain though, if Bisu beats Movie then beats Flash in Game 1 on Medusa, he'll break 2300. If he loses to Movie and then 2-0's Flash, he'll probably still break 2300. I think he could go as high as 2320 if he goes 3-0 tonight. if beating movie puts him at 2294 an ace match win would also put him over wouldnt it I would think they would send out Best since Best can take anyone from CJ + they want to give Bisu a break. bisu would be a better choice, not like hed have to fear a terran on medusa, better go with the pvz specialist. theyre both in this and they both have gom later so its not like one needs a break more than the other.
Does Skyhigh feel cursed for having to face Best in GOM tonight after having to play Jaedong twice in his MSL group?
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Yeah Idra, what do you think skyhighs chances are tonight?
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And for those of you speculating on an Ace match, look at the line up. Bisu's going to play Flash tonight, so he's not an obvious choice for ace. But Fantasy...Fantasy's not even there. And that makes him strong choice.
And Midas and Hyuk have been showing that they can actually play so they're also valid choices (especially with the unreliable SKT1 coaches). But CJ has to realize that Fantasy isn't in the line up, so they to prepare for to come out.
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People are going to say, "What about Medusa" and to this, Fantasy could easily prepare some sort of 1 base all-in or 2-base all in that could put the odds in his favor. CJ doesn't have a strong toss either (Much hasn't been playing, it seems he isn't ready, and Movie might not be ready to play twice in one night) and Fantasy could readily beat Effort/Iris.
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Movie's gonna beat Bisu (beat free, backho, and stork), then Flash is gonna take map imbalance and shove it right up there.
People are talking about jinxing him already, so what would his lowest possible ELO be if he lost to Movie, got thrown in acematch and lost that, then lost 0-2 to Flash?
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On January 04 2009 11:51 aRod wrote:
Flash vs any Terran player is an absolute treat to watch, I'm having a hard time waiting for it.
Haha you're just going to have to keep waiting then =D
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i believe the ELO calculation has an inflationary factor. the same problem occurred with chess ratings.
clearly of the 4 ppl breaking the 2300 point, only oov and savior were named bonjwa, the remaining 2 are relatively "recent". and even savior's pwnage was relatively shortlived.
so ya, after inflation is taken into account, i dont think bisu is up to the bar.
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Fantastic hype. I wasn't that interested in tonights games, or progaming recently for that matter, but as a Bisu fan I am definitely watching this.
Thanks HB.
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On January 04 2009 11:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2009 11:39 Avidkeystamper wrote:On January 04 2009 11:35 IdrA wrote:On January 04 2009 11:21 Hot_Bid wrote:On January 04 2009 11:17 BanZu wrote:
Anyone know how ELO is calculated? Like how much BiSu would get from beating Movie? If Bisu beats Movie, he'll be at 2294 If Bisu loses to Movie, he'll be at 2270 I haven't done the what-ifs with Flash. I'm certain though, if Bisu beats Movie then beats Flash in Game 1 on Medusa, he'll break 2300. If he loses to Movie and then 2-0's Flash, he'll probably still break 2300. I think he could go as high as 2320 if he goes 3-0 tonight. if beating movie puts him at 2294 an ace match win would also put him over wouldnt it I would think they would send out Best since Best can take anyone from CJ + they want to give Bisu a break. Probably Iris v BeSt or EffOrt v BeSt. I think EffOrt would beat BeSt ez, since BeSt has shit PvZ.
Best eliminated effort from GOM
rooting for bisu, but flash is the big time favourite
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On January 04 2009 12:04 dybydx wrote:
i believe the ELO calculation has an inflationary factor. the same problem occurred with chess ratings.
clearly of the 4 ppl breaking the 2300 point, only oov and savior were named bonjwa, the remaining 2 are relatively "recent". and even savior's pwnage was relatively shortlived.
so ya, after inflation is taken into account, i dont think bisu is up to the bar.
I don't think it does, but my memory is faulty.
On January 04 2009 11:55 thunk wrote:
And Midas and Hyuk have been showing that they can actually play so they're also valid choices
Uhh, yeah, I don't think so.
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best raped effort ez that series. didn't even care in the game he lost
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EPT
