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Frits
11782 Posts
On November 18 2008 11:07 lokiM wrote: actually there are 4 if you count GOM as "big" Edit: Good read btw, I sadly agree =\ oh I meant osl msl gom I never really count proleague as part of the big leagues but yeah you're right it's 4 big leagues | ||
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MamiyaOtaru
United States1687 Posts
In a way the decline of SC mirrors the decline of another game (series) I play and love, Unreal Tournament. Quake players may hate on UT, but we are in the same boat: no one plays those games anymore. It's all Halo and Call of Duty and Gears of War and stuff. None of the insane fast twitch shooters. I still play UT1 (a game from '99) regularly and love it. I play with a group of guys who recognize how fun it is. We also play SC. Those are our two main games. Games that can survive that long have to have something going for them we reason (and we enjoy the heck out of them). It's sad for me to see that what they have going for them is not enough to overcome peoples' infatuation with graphics. Even worse though is that it is not enough to keep them hanging on in the mainstream among gamers whose tastes have shifted. UT3 has the newer graphics but no one plays it, as they are interested in fundamentally different types of action games. I am slightly worried that SC2 may be the same way, a graphically updated version of a type of game that has fallen out of favor among the masses. If all the things are done that TL feels are necessary to keep it true to BW my fear is that this will disqualify it from widespread interest (at least in the multiplayer realm) due to a consolized generation of gamers, the same way UT3 failed to garner any interest. | ||
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Coulthard
Greece3359 Posts
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LxRogue
United States1415 Posts
I sure hope it keeps dying, iCCup is awesome, and the korean scene is more active then ever before. | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
korean teams are beginning to recruit foreigners that has got to be good! | ||
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Murlox
France1699 Posts
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
For me, I don't really care about competition in the foreign scene. I only want to watch the best vs the best and they could only be found in South Korea. Community grudge matches are also fun to watch too, but that's an exception. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On November 18 2008 11:51 meegrean wrote: When I log on to Iccup, I don't exactly feel like foreign Starcraft is dying. There are still plenty of noobs who want to learn how to play Starcraft. For me, I don't really care about competition in the foreign scene. I only want to watch the best vs the best and they could only be found in South Korea. Community grudge matches are also fun to watch too, but that's an exception. My whole point is that I'm talking about the foreign competitive scene, I'm not talking about pro-gaming in Korea, or the game in general. Foreign Competitive Scene = Dying , rest of Starcraft = alive. | ||
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tonight
United States11130 Posts
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Durak
Canada3684 Posts
I'd better pick up my game if I only have 3-4 months left. A+ here I come. | ||
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CommanderFluffy
Taiwan1059 Posts
well written xeris. | ||
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
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Pads
England3228 Posts
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Skew
United States1019 Posts
SC isn't dying anymore than it was since a long time ago. WCG has always blown, no body has ever cared that much about WGTour (and some of these other random sites, but I still respect their staff greatly for their effort), sponsors aren't coming or going any differently than they always have for the past 5 years, and the most important things that have happened in awhile (and are still here to stay) are ICCup and TSL. So TBH, as a player and observer, SC has only gotten better in my time. Secondly, you just disrespected so many great new age players by making up some random stupid group of 'top foreigners' lead by IefNaij???? What? If you're going to make a list and want people to not hate you for it, it better not be this fucking terrible. And that was really, really terrible. The sad part about it is a huge majority of players in question probably don't read here (or wouldn't post if they did), so it'll just float around mind-fucking everyone who doesn't know any better. Give credit where it's due or shut the hell up when you don't know. Tired of seeing this crap go unchecked. Lastly, Media is the #1 US team hands down. We could have played D O fucking W for the past 3 years, never playing a game of SC, still come back and destroy any other US team without a mouse. Our team accomplishments are based on the people who make up the team, not some random league finish with no prize. Don't fucking disrespect a nation's leading players and team just to make yourself seem cool. You just lost a lot of credibility with a lot of top players. Hope it was worth it. L4D out in like 1 hour so I'm off to party woooooooooo! | ||
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SkepTicAL
Canada872 Posts
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Sadist
United States7286 Posts
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On November 18 2008 13:05 Skew wrote: + Show Spoiler + I guess there has to be one of these retarded posts every now and then to get me to come out from under the rock... SC isn't dying anymore than it was since a long time ago. WCG has always blown, no body has ever cared that much about WGTour (and some of these other random sites, but I still respect their staff greatly for their effort), sponsors aren't coming or going any differently than they always have for the past 5 years, and the most important things that have happened in awhile (and are still here to stay) are ICCup and TSL. So TBH, as a player and observer, SC has only gotten better in my time. Secondly, you just disrespected so many great new age players by making up some random stupid group of 'top foreigners' lead by IefNaij???? What? If you're going to make a list and want people to not hate you for it, it better not be this fucking terrible. And that was really, really terrible. The sad part about it is a huge majority of players in question probably don't read here (or wouldn't post if they did), so it'll just float around mind-fucking everyone who doesn't know any better. Give credit where it's due or shut the hell up when you don't know. Tired of seeing this crap go unchecked. Lastly, Media is the #1 US team hands down. We could have played D O fucking W for the past 3 years, never playing a game of SC, still come back and destroy any other US team without a mouse. Our team accomplishments are based on the people who make up the team, not some random league finish with no prize. Don't fucking disrespect a nation's leading players and team just to make yourself seem cool. You just lost a lot of credibility with a lot of top players. Hope it was worth it. L4D out in like 1 hour so I'm off to party woooooooooo! No offense but what about my list is wrong? What foreigners have accomplished more than Strelok, IefNaij, White-Ra, Nony, Idra, DinOt, Dreiven, etc? I don't know about you but when I think of "top players" - I think of people who actually accomplish a lot. You can be the best player and reach A+ on ladder and dominate everyone in practice games, etc, but if you don't translate that over to winning clanwars or tournaments, then what do you really have? Nothing... Also in my list I'm not referring to Chinese players (since they have their own progaming they aren't included). Again when I'm talking about teams, I'm not talking about the individual accomplishments of the players in the teams, I'm talking about the team accomplishments in team events (clan leagues, etc). You can have w/e opinion you want about that, but personally when thinking of a team, I put team league, etc accomplishments over the individual accomplishments of the players in that team. Agree or disagree, I don't really care - that isn't the point of this... and I also don't care about the mysterious "top players" I lost the respect of, boo hoo. + Show Spoiler + my list of players isn't all-inclusive, there are others like Cloud, etc who deserve mention too, but whatever flame awway! | ||
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Play
Australia608 Posts
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
- Spirit = one time deal (over now) - TSL = the only hope - random amateur commentators = does nothing for FOREIGN COMPETITIVE SCENE... which is what I am talking about. hope that helps. | ||
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