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Fade to Black: The Death of Starcraft - Page 6

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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
November 19 2008 04:12 GMT
#101
On November 19 2008 12:47 rei wrote:
By saying the game is dying, you are referring to existing players back in the days got older and became inactive in the same time not many new comers pick up the game due to the lack of exposure. Hence, active players became a lot less than what it was some 8 years ago.

Base on this reasoning, There are two ways in which to prevent starcraft from dying.
1) get those older player huge amount of money that they can't refuse to continue playing so we keep our existing player population.(not happening)
2) A lot of Advertisement for starcraft tournments on USA national TV, So starcraft can be viewed as the elite of the elite competitive esport event in the world, it will get new people interested in starcraft. Which also require some billionaire who loves the game enough to intentionally lose few hundred million dollars to keep the game alive. (ELkY????)

My view on this matter is that as long as we still have a community the game is alive, and guess what, this same community is going to be playing starcraft2, and starcraft2 will attract so many new people. If this community have some influence over these new people the community will grow. And maybe blizzard will act upon this opportunity and create media attention by televising starcraft2 on national TV, and we will have what we all wanted, progamming becoming mainstream of entertainment.

That's just my wishful thinking, but all joking aside I have great hope for SC2.

PS. I used to play world of warcraft with the team leader of light, i wonder if OP is in fact the person i used to play wow with ^^


I believe you are referring to Green, Star, or Ruby... those are teh founders of LighT and I believe they all switched over to WoW.
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Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9105 Posts
November 19 2008 05:08 GMT
#102
I have to agree with Xeris. I only wish I'd gotten into the foreign scene a few years earlier.
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
November 19 2008 19:25 GMT
#103
On November 19 2008 09:07 Xeris wrote:
why will you bump this thread and laugh at me? lol?


Because in one year I guarantee you'll have basically quit SC. Your projecting your feeling about SC unto everyone else. I did the same thing when I left.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
November 19 2008 22:35 GMT
#104
Ah, in that case I stand by my statement of "I'm not going anywhere"
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Raz0r
Profile Joined September 2008
United States287 Posts
November 19 2008 23:31 GMT
#105
SC1 FOREVER!!!!! Good times
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-20 00:07:01
November 20 2008 00:06 GMT
#106
On November 20 2008 07:35 Xeris wrote:
Ah, in that case I stand by my statement of "I'm not going anywhere"



But in one year, when you've posted on tl.net 20 times in the last 5 mths, and have no tourney resp, and have basically completely left the scene, I'll LOL LOL LOL at u and bump this thread. See ya in yr so I can LOL at u.





(I'll quote these LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOLZZZZSZZZZ) in part.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
November 20 2008 00:11 GMT
#107
ok see ya. lol ;p
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Creationism
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
China505 Posts
November 20 2008 00:57 GMT
#108
I think Xeris is right from the perspective of the foreign progamer, but really, you weren't a starcraft progamer until you went to korea n got your licence. The foreign scene only is dying because of the connectivity with the korean scene. Some people realized they can never get this good and stopped deluding themselves, others got into it more. Overall I think the foreign skill level is closest it has ever been to the korean skill level and that makes me happy and want to play starcraft.
The hoi polloi is the plague upon the world.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
November 20 2008 01:39 GMT
#109
I wouldn't say it's close, I mean back in 98-99-00 foreign skill was much closer to korean skill comparatively or whatever... but I think that overall foreign skill is quite high relative to recent years.
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No_eL
Profile Joined July 2007
Chile1438 Posts
November 20 2008 02:04 GMT
#110
or for Xeris??

that its the question.

plz stop posting about this.

Many of us are happy with the foreign community and the improvemente of the skills around the world, maybe in a few years more and more foreigners will play in korea.

And maybe... the WCG 2010 will be full of people around the world in a olympic style.

But for achieve that, we dont need people moaning and depressive, we need work and energy!!
Beat after beat i will become stronger.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
November 20 2008 02:14 GMT
#111
On November 20 2008 11:04 No_eL wrote:
or for Xeris??

that its the question.

plz stop posting about this.

Many of us are happy with the foreign community and the improvemente of the skills around the world, maybe in a few years more and more foreigners will play in korea.

And maybe... the WCG 2010 will be full of people around the world in a olympic style.

But for achieve that, we dont need people moaning and depressive, we need work and energy!!


No_eL you are pretty fucking retarded. I'm pretty sure I do a decent amount of work for the community.
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prOxi.swAMi
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3091 Posts
November 20 2008 02:46 GMT
#112
On November 20 2008 11:04 No_eL wrote:
or for Xeris??

that its the question.

plz stop posting about this.

Many of us are happy with the foreign community and the improvemente of the skills around the world, maybe in a few years more and more foreigners will play in korea.

And maybe... the WCG 2010 will be full of people around the world in a olympic style.

But for achieve that, we dont need people moaning and depressive, we need work and energy!!

Wow, what's your problem. Xeris presented a perfectly legitimate piece of writing. Even if you disagree with it, he has backed it with fact and makes sense. Your argument is that people are hapy with the way the community is? So what? What's your point? It doesn't make him less accurate and your post is well within the realm of stupidity. Troll.
Oh no
Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
November 20 2008 02:54 GMT
#113
On November 20 2008 11:46 prOxi.swAMi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2008 11:04 No_eL wrote:
or for Xeris??

that its the question.

plz stop posting about this.

Many of us are happy with the foreign community and the improvemente of the skills around the world, maybe in a few years more and more foreigners will play in korea.

And maybe... the WCG 2010 will be full of people around the world in a olympic style.

But for achieve that, we dont need people moaning and depressive, we need work and energy!!

Wow, what's your problem. Xeris presented a perfectly legitimate piece of writing. Even if you disagree with it, he has backed it with fact and makes sense. Your argument is that people are hapy with the way the community is? So what? What's your point? It doesn't make him less accurate and your post is well within the realm of stupidity. Troll.


“A foolish man tells a woman to stop talking, but a wise man tells her that her mouth is extremely beautiful when her lips are closed”

Your post is stupid, too. He wanted to post his opinion, and you're telling him he can't have it.
Never give up on something that you can't go a day without thinking about.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
November 20 2008 03:24 GMT
#114
he pointed out that random Chilean guys posts are really stupid because they aren't based on fact or anything. not that he can't have his opinion... anyone can have an opinion, but opinions can be stupid. his is stupid.
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
November 20 2008 19:23 GMT
#115
http://www.gosugamers.net/starcraft/news/9224-pgl-qualifiers-cancelled-due-to-sponsor-issues

T____T
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PobTheCad
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Australia893 Posts
November 20 2008 22:37 GMT
#116
you can't partly blame the community that a 10 1/2 year old game is 'dying'
the fact that the game has remained popular this long is a credit to the community
Once again back is the incredible!
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