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Retsu
Profile Joined September 2008
United States5 Posts
October 15 2008 06:07 GMT
#1
http://www.freewebs.com/clan-aad/2Eclipse1.0OBS.scx

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This map is 2 players, so far so good, GG.net liked it, all who test tried it liked it.

Please submit comments on this map

and if you would be so kind as to tell me how i can submit it thanks
StrikeFLOW
Profile Joined July 2008
United States369 Posts
October 15 2008 06:11 GMT
#2
Twilight eh?

>.>
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SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
October 15 2008 06:11 GMT
#3
I do believe you have this in the wrong forum sir, it will be switched soon enough.

As for the map, fairly interesting! Hmm the min onlys look a bit far but I don't know how that would be a problem
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
October 15 2008 06:25 GMT
#4
looks so ez to run speedlings or mnms through nat into main. the ramp is so far from the crystals. securing a 3rd for any race looks pretty difficult. other than that is looks pretty cool.
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
October 15 2008 06:26 GMT
#5
cheese looks very strong here
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CDRdude
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States5625 Posts
October 15 2008 06:27 GMT
#6
It looks kind of T > Z It seems like Z would have a really hard time holding a third or a fourth in lategame. Also, I don't think the main and natural setup really lends itself to muta harass. If there's any way that T can wall in outside the nat, then I'd be sure it was T>Z
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Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27154 Posts
October 15 2008 06:30 GMT
#7
Moved to Brood War
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CommanderFluffy
Profile Joined June 2008
Taiwan1059 Posts
October 15 2008 06:36 GMT
#8
lots of wide ramps, does the natural only have six patches?
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Retsu
Profile Joined September 2008
United States5 Posts
October 15 2008 06:43 GMT
#9
On October 15 2008 15:36 CommanderFluffy wrote:
lots of wide ramps, does the natural only have six patches?


yes, becuase of the 9 patches in the main, and the abundance of minerals at expansions
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Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
October 15 2008 06:46 GMT
#10
The 4 and 10 o clock expansions look really interesting.

That being said I've hated almost every twilight map I've ever played so..... (well paranoid android was cool)
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mIsUZu
Profile Joined August 2008
New Zealand528 Posts
October 15 2008 08:00 GMT
#11
i see few imbal ramps where siegemode tanks can exploit
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SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
October 15 2008 08:02 GMT
#12
looks like bluestorm, and there are lots of places to cheese
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rkarhu
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Finland570 Posts
October 15 2008 08:20 GMT
#13
The 4 and 10 o'clock exps will be a nightmare to hold against a decent T. Just siege the tanks on that cliff and rain hell down on the exp. It's gonna be hard to take those tanks down unless you come from the wide ramp, because the smaller ramp creates an easily defendable choke.
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
October 15 2008 08:30 GMT
#14
I think it`s pretty hard for zerg. The nat seems very hard to harras with mutas.
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Profile Joined February 2008
Moldova1219 Posts
October 15 2008 09:12 GMT
#15
It's clearly a terranish map, there's no open area and while toss could try to use cariers, there's nothing a zerg could do.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5770 Posts
October 15 2008 09:17 GMT
#16
TBH the main problem I see with the map is the mini ramps near the top right and bottom left areas of the map. Because of the other ramps in close proximity to this miniramp, if terran puts siege tanks on that cliff, toss has no way of flanking around and would have to suicide.
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jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
October 15 2008 09:52 GMT
#17
seems like the 11 o'clock main is much better and easier to defend than the 5 o'clock main due to the ramp placement.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43232 Posts
October 15 2008 09:54 GMT
#18
Protoss FE wallins that stop runthrough could be tricky. The 9 mins in main to lend themselves towards one base openings but the size of the map hinders that. I don't see PvZ being balanced here because I just don't see how a Protoss would play this map. It doesn't suit any current style. If you move the nats nearer to the ramps and narrow the choke a bit it'll be more easily defendable.
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DhakhaR
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United Kingdom721 Posts
October 15 2008 10:40 GMT
#19
On October 15 2008 18:52 jhNz wrote:
seems like the 11 o'clock main is much better and easier to defend than the 5 o'clock main due to the ramp placement.


i would have said the opposite, tanks at the top of the 5 ramp can hit stuff coming through the nat 'choke', whereas they would have to be far from the ramp to do the same at 11.

but yeah it looks very cheesy and hard for zerg and toss.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43232 Posts
October 15 2008 11:34 GMT
#20
Terran will have a lot of fun trying to stop the Protoss just outflanking him at will. The strong points to hold are completely avoidable. You can go up either side and it's impossible to create a defence spanning the entire centre.
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Starparty
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Sweden1963 Posts
October 15 2008 12:02 GMT
#21
Seems a bit uninspired to me. What role does this map fulfill that some other doesnt already do? Not saying variety isnt good, but maps ver similar to this has been done, and executed better already.
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meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
October 15 2008 13:40 GMT
#22
Looks interesting.
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BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
October 15 2008 14:28 GMT
#23
So undecorated.

A map must look as well as it plays.
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capek
Profile Joined September 2008
United States585 Posts
October 15 2008 14:40 GMT
#24
I would like to see how the random ramps (more like pyramids...) in the middle of the map do.
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6639 Posts
October 15 2008 14:42 GMT
#25
This looks like a nice map, I look forward to playing it ^^
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-15 15:17:20
October 15 2008 15:16 GMT
#26
Even if there are flaws with maps I think we should make a map pool consisting of maps from TL users and have some sort of tournament
EDIT: Well assuming the map isn't totally imba/retarded...
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Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
October 15 2008 15:39 GMT
#27
On October 15 2008 23:28 BluzMan wrote:
So undecorated.

A map must look as well as it plays.


I don't agree. I'm not saying looks are unimportant but playability is more important. Also, I don't think that this map looks bad as is.

On October 15 2008 21:02 Starparty wrote:
Seems a bit uninspired to me. What role does this map fulfill that some other doesnt already do? Not saying variety isnt good, but maps ver similar to this has been done, and executed better already.


Every "role" for a map has already been done. The game has been out for ages. Try not to be so negative.

I think a few big problems have already been stated. T>Z and P>T looks to be the case.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17017 Posts
October 15 2008 16:14 GMT
#28
On October 16 2008 00:39 Durak wrote:
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On October 15 2008 23:28 BluzMan wrote:
So undecorated.

A map must look as well as it plays.


I don't agree. I'm not saying looks are unimportant but playability is more important. Also, I don't think that this map looks bad as is.


If you compare this map to some of the others that've been posted by Starparty, nightmarejoo, etc., you'll see that this map is horribly undecorated. The terrain looks blocky with tons of straight lines, no doodads, no terrain decoration, etc.

Which isn't to say it isn't a good map, but it's definitely not v1.0 worthy. Maybe like, say, a v0.95, just so you have (much needed) room for decoration before an official release of it.
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
October 15 2008 17:47 GMT
#29
On October 15 2008 17:02 SilverSkyLark wrote:
looks like bluestorm, and there are lots of places to cheese


I agree, but I don't think that's a bad thing- Maps that have a lot of places to cheese are generally interesting to watch being played.
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sqwert
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States781 Posts
October 15 2008 18:14 GMT
#30
Julyzerg will rule on this map
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PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
October 15 2008 21:27 GMT
#31
You should find and download the backwards ramps (ramps pointing up). One who starts at the bottom is at somewhat of a disadvantage due to his ramp being closer to the outside than the other start position's.

Also, like ppl have said before, it looks difficult to secure a third (especially for zerg), but maybe that's what you wanted.

Other than that, it looks pretty good. A little cramped for zerg, but other than that, not bad.
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Racenilatr
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States2756 Posts
October 15 2008 22:24 GMT
#32
wat are the thingies in the middle?
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