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[Fin]Vittu
Canada507 Posts
People say although you game a lot by owning those people you cannot get better and rather your skill stays at a plateau. Is it true that by losing 20+ games in a row that you are actually getting better and not receiving signs from god that you should quit sc? | ||
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clazziquai
6685 Posts
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Purind
Canada3562 Posts
I think you can learn even by playing worse players, as long as they're close enough to you that they can take a game from you at any moment | ||
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
Play pros to get raped and have them criticize you Play people your level and win/lose half the time to push your limits Play people below your level to test out new ideas and to keep confidence | ||
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
The tussle theory is something I thought up, basically it says that the game is an experience, and you gain from the experience. If you play player that is so good they kill you in 5 minutes, there are little experience gained because you have no idea why you lose, and unless they point out something subtle to you, you just feel confused and lost w/o gaining anything useful. If you player a player that is so bad that you can do what ever you want you are not "strained" in any way, and you cannot learn because you are not forced to play at a higher state. These games are mainly for laughs and giggles and egos, but not to improve. If you play a player of your level, it will be a struggle. You will see hopes and lose hopes, you will have to claw every inch of your way to victory, and such endurance will build you to a better player, and forces you to push your gaming just a little more, as it is that little more that pushes a lose to a win, that lets you overpower your opponent. May it be abit more multitask, or more vigorous thinking in game, it will force you to work out. xD | ||
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Blind
United States2528 Posts
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G5
United States2898 Posts
i don't think its a bad thing to get mad at your losses. if i didn't care if i won or lost, i wouldn't have improved as fast as i did. what helped me the most to improve from a D player to a A player is by pushing myself, getting mad at myself and loosing. And I mean LOOOOSING A LOT... the key to loosing is understanding why you lost and fix it the next time you get in such a scenario. This is how you improve, playing players worst then you will help u stay in shape, you will remember hot keys and such but on a general understanding of the game / strategical standpoint, you won't improve at all. Man up and play better players, take your losses like a man or take em like a kid, it doesn't really matter as long as you take losses and realize you did something wrong; and then understand why you lost. good luck and never ever dodge players for then being good. if i have 2 players at A-, 1 with 50/50 record and the other being 80-15, ill play the 80-15 guy every time. do the same and try to improve your game (if you care about improving at all). once again, good luck~ G5 | ||
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gg_hertzz
2152 Posts
Losing just makes you a better player, but only if you know why you lost and work to get better. Losing by itself, of course, doesn't do jackshit but scare you into playing lesser players. But people who constantly challenge themselves, and learn from their losses and mistakes, are always guaranteed to become better in the long run. That goes for SC and life. | ||
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Archaic
United States4024 Posts
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ilovejonn
Canada2548 Posts
If you just mass game against noobs where you always win, you'll think to yourself, whatever I won anyways even though I had some mistakes, who cares. | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
Would you wanna play a single player console game where it was actually impossible to lose? Or close to it? Of course not. Drop your stupid ego and start playing this game for fun, not for pride (because unless you're competing among the best, no one gives a fuck what your win rate is). i admit that by not challenging myself and playing better opponents that I've not been able to reach my potential. LOL, even when you're admitting you played games with people worse than you to save your ego, you're saving your ego by saying you'd be much better 'if only I'd tried.' It makes it very difficult to see if you've learned or not. | ||
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yoshtodd
United States418 Posts
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ForAdun
Germany986 Posts
Losing itself doesn't make you better at all. It's the 3 golden A's - awareness, attention, action - that make you better, and in order to get them started you first have to lose, because only then you can be aware of a weakness. Given that you don't ignore it (like everyone likes to do, the hardest part is not to ignore it) and instead pay attention you can take action which goes as following: see, understand, solve. That's the easier part since it only takes brain activity and gaming, your ego is not involved. This as a whole is just a theoretical example and it only describes the ideal case. Much more often you will get to face quite a few weaknesses at the same time and if that pressures you it can easily make you ignore the facts after you told yourself it's alright you're still the better player and you simply had bad luck - actually nothing but an approach to stay mentally healthy, so it's not a bad thing at all, it's just standing between you and your improvement. We all like to do that, I like to do that. The more you want to improve the harder it gets not to do it. In the end there's only one advice I can give you in any case: stay real, heads up and do not join the dark side of the force. | ||
KwarK
United States42649 Posts
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gg_hertzz
2152 Posts
On June 19 2008 07:13 PsycHOTemplar wrote: How is it fun to play people who are worse than you? It's like playing any game that's too easy, you'll just get bored. Would you wanna play a single player console game where it was actually impossible to lose? Or close to it? Of course not. Drop your stupid ego and start playing this game for fun, not for pride (because unless you're competing among the best, no one gives a fuck what your win rate is). LOL, even when you're admitting you played games with people worse than you to save your ego, you're saving your ego by saying you'd be much better 'if only I'd tried.' It makes it very difficult to see if you've learned or not. lulz? i play to pass the time, not to compete? WTF are you criticizing me for? It's just a fucking game donkey. | ||
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[Fin]Vittu
Canada507 Posts
On June 19 2008 09:42 Kwark wrote: Playing people your own level makes you better eh Evan? how'd you know my name? :0 | ||
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KwarK
United States42649 Posts
Level 18 internet skills. Takes a lot of grinding but it's times like this that make it all worthwhile. Amazing the new guys with your 1337 special abilities and rare armour. | ||
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Seraphim
United States4467 Posts
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KwarK
United States42649 Posts
On June 19 2008 10:19 Seraphim wrote: I think he was talking to evanthebouncey~ haha Whatever you say John. | ||
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ScarFace
United States1175 Posts
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