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2025 Season 2 13/08 (dd/mm)
(2) Litmus 1.1
(2) Roaring Currents 1.0
(3) Dominator SE 2.0
(4) Metropolis 1.1
(4) Pole Star 1.1
(4) Radeon 1.2
(4) Polypoid 1.75
(4) Fighting Spirit 1.4
(4) KnockOut 1.1
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2017 Season 1 14/08
(3) Outsider
(4) Arcadia II
(4) Python
(4) Nostalgia
(4) Fighting Spirit
(4) Circuit Breaker
2017 Season 2 07/12
(2) Destination
(2) Match Point
(3) Tau Cross
(3) Longinus II
(4) Neo Jade
(4) Fighting Spirit
(4) Circuit Breaker
2018 Season 1 12/04
(2) Destination
(3) Transistor
(3) Tau Cross
(3) Longinus II
(4) Gladiator
(4) Fighting Spirit
(4) Circuit Breaker
2018 Season 2 25/07
(2) Blue Storm
(2) Polaris Rhapsody
(2) Heart Break Ridge 2.1
(3) Aztec 2.1
(4) Roadkill 1.13
(4) Fighting Spirit
(4) Circuit Breaker
2018 Season 3 02/10
(2) Benzene 1.1
(2) Heart Break Ridge 2.1
(3) Aztec 2.1
(4) In the Way of an Eddy 1.05
(4) Roadkill 1.13
(4) Circuit Breakers 1.0
(4) Fighting Spirit 1.3
2019 Season 1 03/02
(2) Cross Game
(2) Overwatch
(3) Neo Medusa
(4) Circuit Breaker
(4) Colosseum II
(4) Fighting Spirit
(4) Neo Ground Zero
2019 Season 2 10/07
(2) Overwatch
(2) Tres Pass
(3) Power Bond
(4) BlockChainSE 2.1
(4) Fighting Spirit 1.3
(4) Circuit Breakers 1.0
(4) Gladiator 1.1
2019 Season 3 20/11
(2) Destination
(2) Heartbreak Ridge
(3) Neo_Sylphid
(3) Whiteout
(4) Circuit Breaker
(4) Fighting Spirit
(4) Gladiator
2020 Season 1 14/02
(2) Hitchhiker 1.2
(2) New Bloody Ridge
(3) Neo_Sylphid 2.0
(4) La Mancha 1.1
(4) Escalade
(4) Fighting Spirit 1.3
(4) Circuit Breakers 1.0
2020 Season 2 29/05
(2) Eclipse
(2) Match Point
(3) New Sylphid
(3) Reap the Storm
(4) Polypoid
(4) Fighting Spirit
(4) Circuit Breakers
2020 Season 3 09/10
(2) Benzene
(2) Eclipse
(3) Plasma
(4) Polypoid
(4) Ringing Bloom
(4) Fighting Spirit
(4) Circuit Breakers
2021 season 1 10/02
(2) Benzene 1.1
(2) Eclipse 1.2
(3) Plasma 1.0
(4) Optimizer 1.0
(4) Polypoid 1.6
(4) Ringing Bloom SE 2.0
(4) Shakuras Temple 1.1
2021 season 2 29/09
(2) Eclipse 1.2
(3) Ascension 1.0
(4) Fighting Spirit 1.3
(4) Good Night 1.3
(4) Largo 1.5
(4) Polypoid 1.65
(4) Revolver 1.0
2022 season 1 08/09
(2) Butter 2.0C
(2) Eclipse 1.2
(3) Sylphid 3.0
(4) Fighting Spirit 1.3
(4) Nemesis (ASL)
(4) Polypoid 1.65
(4) Vermeer SE 2.1
2023 season 1 31/08
(2) Invader 1.0
(2) Neo Dark Origin
(3) Apocalypse
(4) Fighting Spirit 1.3
(4) La Campanella 1.1
(4) Polypoid 1.75
(4) Retro 1.2
(4) Tempest 1.1
(4) Vermeer SE 2.1
2024 season 1 05/02
(2) Blitz Y 1.0
(2) Neo Dark Origin 2.1
(3) Apocalypse_1.4
(4) Citadel 1.0
(4) Fighting_Spirit_1.3
(4) Radeon 1.0
(4) Retro 1.2
(4) TroySE 2.0
(4) Polypoid 1.75
2024 season 2 27/08
(2) Minstrel 1.0
(2) Monty Hall SE 2.3
(3) Dominator 1.2
(4) Deja Vu 1.1
(4) KICK BACK 1.3
(4) Pantheon 1.0
(4) Radeon 1.0
(4) Polypoid 1.75
(4) Fighting Spirit
2025 season 1 27/02
(2) DeathValley 1.0
(2) Eclipse 1.3
(3) Dominator 2.0
(4) Deja Vu 2.0
(4) Metropolis 1.0
(4) Pole Star 1.0
(4) Radeon 1.0
(4) Polypoid 1.75
(4) Fighting Spirit 1.4
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Netherlands4994 Posts
Fighting Spirit. Nice...
How are people not bored of that shit yet? You can perfectly teach noobs Starcraft on newer 4 player maps.
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I wish they implemented a transparent minimap like on ShieldBattery. I hate playing on new maps without it... T___T
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Hurray for Fighting Spirit !!! 
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I love Fighting Spirit
Haters gonna hate...
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And Polypoid and Fighting Spirit are still in the pool. zzz.
I know they kept FS/Poly for the sake of noobs but come on, even noobs won't be able to learn if all they know is those two. Bring back the other good maps like Vermeer or Citadel or Sylphid.
Or troll people and bring back Sparkle and Third World just for laughs.
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United States10168 Posts
At some point when Radeon gets phased out of ASL, we should replace Fighting Spirit with Radeon imo. Polypoid, ok whatever, it's a newer map than FS so it can stay I guess but it's been super super boring at this point seeing FS in the pool. I auto ban FS and Poly anyways and only play the new maps.
Don't mind bringing back Vermeer either over Poly too.
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Yea I think in terms of basic 4p maps, I would rank them: Radeon > Vermeer > Polypoid > CB > FS
I really hope ASL brings back Minstrel at some point. SUCH a cool map.
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I don't see the outcry with FS and Polypoid. The formula of FS + Poly + ASL map pool is great and they should stick with it forever.
Koreans play these two maps on a daily basis and they account for 90% of the player pool. Don't like them? You still have 7 maps to choose from. What more do you want? Why would we have maps that are neither being played in ASL nor in any other events at the moment like Vermeer or Sylphid? They are irrelevant for the time being.
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On August 14 2025 00:00 TMNT wrote:
I don't see the outcry with FS and Polypoid. The formula of FS + Poly + ASL map pool is great and they should stick with it forever.
Koreans play these two maps on a daily basis and they account for 90% of the player pool. Don't like them? You still have 7 maps to choose from. What more do you want? Why would we have maps that are neither being played in ASL nor in any other events at the moment like Vermeer or Sylphid? They are irrelevant for the time being.
Agreed. I just veto FS sometimes. Most korean guides are built on FS, you can't remove it.
Knockout is basically CB though.
Y'all i need build ideas for roaring currents for P?
Do you try to hold the bridge vs T and go full air?
Sair/reaver vs Z?
Proxy shit or reaver vs P?
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Im just happy they added some new maps LOL. I remember when they took almost a whole year to update them. That made me quit the game entirely.
FS is the most noob friendly map there is. If you go to customs in the KR server you will see is used countless times.
I honestly prefer Vermeer over Polypoid and wouldnt mind a change but i guess Polypoid is sorta the new noob friendly too.
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Bring back Python and Lost Temple please.
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On August 14 2025 00:20 WGT-Baal wrote:Show nested quote +On August 14 2025 00:00 TMNT wrote:
I don't see the outcry with FS and Polypoid. The formula of FS + Poly + ASL map pool is great and they should stick with it forever.
Koreans play these two maps on a daily basis and they account for 90% of the player pool. Don't like them? You still have 7 maps to choose from. What more do you want? Why would we have maps that are neither being played in ASL nor in any other events at the moment like Vermeer or Sylphid? They are irrelevant for the time being. Agreed. I just veto FS sometimes. Most korean guides are built on FS, you can't remove it. Knockout is basically CB though. Y'all i need build ideas for roaring currents for P? Do you try to hold the bridge vs T and go full air? Sair/reaver vs Z? Proxy shit or reaver vs P?
zealot sair vs zerg
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Really excited to see how Knockout plays!
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FS is the most common and also very zerg unfriendly, both T and P do well against Zergs on FS.
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On August 13 2025 18:52 Peeano wrote:
Fighting Spirit. Nice...
How are people not bored of that shit yet? You can perfectly teach noobs Starcraft on newer 4 player maps.
They probably have data on casuals. No matter how long it's been since you've last watched or played StarCraft, fighting spirit feels like home.
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I remember when FS came out I thought: wow, what a bland macro map. Its safe money thrown everywhere with no style or aesthetic or danger, nothing interesting. At this point FS is an aggressive map compared to the shit currently coming out.
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Knockout looks dope. Cant wait to see games
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On August 14 2025 07:11 CicadaSC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2025 18:52 Peeano wrote:
Fighting Spirit. Nice...
How are people not bored of that shit yet? You can perfectly teach noobs Starcraft on newer 4 player maps. They probably have data on casuals. No matter how long it's been since you've last watched or played StarCraft, fighting spirit feels like home.
Fighting Spirit is home!! I live there
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fighting spirit is outdated. Radeon, should be the new standard.
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On August 14 2025 18:50 RJBTVYOUTUBE wrote:
fighting spirit is outdated. Radeon, should be the new standard.
Radeon is way less noob friendly than FS. I actually think Polypoid is what is taking over FS.
Radeon has bigger ramps. Harder to defend expansions. And is just more flat overall. So you run into more straight fights.
FS polypoid give more time to Terran and Protoss players to react and defend compared to Radeon. I imagine that being a really good pvz map is also a factor for newer protoss players to enjoy playing it more too.
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Koreans will require any map pool to include FS+Poly.
The current formula of 6 month ladder reset and map pool of ASL maps+two "comfort" maps is really not much to complain about. Could be way worse.
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On August 15 2025 01:22 iRkSupperman wrote:
Koreans will require any map pool to include FS+Poly.
The current formula of 6 month ladder reset and map pool of ASL maps+two "comfort" maps is really not much to complain about. Could be way worse.
agreed, also there aren't any bs auto ban maps
with 3 available bans everyone should be able to play on a set of maps according to their preferences
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Say what you want about KeSPA's tyranny, at least they would've axed Fighting Spirit by now. It's been in the map pool for 16 years. It's almost old enough to have to serve in the actual military.
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Still don`t get these seasons thingy, serves zero purpose. Still no 2v2 ladder. Still no 3v3 ladder. Still can`t see what friends are doing online.
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On August 16 2025 22:13 noname_ wrote:
Still don`t get these seasons thingy, serves zero purpose. Still no 2v2 ladder. Still no 3v3 ladder. Still can`t see what friends are doing online.
seasons serve multiple purposes, like resetting to keep MMR inflation lower. And new maps to bring new variety for players.
The "still no XYZ" points is irrelevant, because the game doesn't get any feature development any more at this point.
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