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On January 08 2025 05:25 LordOfDabu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2025 00:29 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Already smashed the current world record (6:37) for mission 1 of starcraft after few tries. i even forgot to use units.. i think 6:34 is possible. That said Shox is a fucking maniac holyshit. Also interesting to hear about others never completing the campaign. I thought i was the only one that played solely multiplayer and never touched the campaign LMAO Are you talking about the first zerg level of the original campaign? The world record for that level is 5:24, not 6:37. See https://www.speedrun.com/sc1?h=Zerg_01_Among_the_Ruins-nmg&x=l_rdn5kznd-n2y6njzd
LMAOOOO. so i checked the world record. and i saw his record in the vod. so was like yeah i got this. You are right the new record is actually way lower.And a very interesting aproach. Back to the lab.
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Wow. I've never played a single second of the campaign, so would having real game knowledge and being a very precise and accurate clicker even help with this?
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On January 08 2025 06:51 EndingLife wrote:
Wow. I've never played a single second of the campaign, so would having real game knowledge and being a very precise and accurate clicker even help with this?
of course it would help a bit, however those campaign speedrunners are playing one mission over and over, hundreds and thousand of times.
They know exactly what to do and where - and there your mechanics won't help.
Basically, mechanics help up to some point, after that, not so much. I bet those speedrunners are 120-200apm, not 300+ mechanic beasts.
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for what it's worth (and i hope he can clarify for me when he sees this thread), shox - the guy who holds most of the records right now, was an okay protoss player back in the day if my memory serves me correctly. i'd say b/b- iccup peak?
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On January 08 2025 08:35 GTR wrote:
for what it's worth (and i hope he can clarify for me when he sees this thread), shox - the guy who holds most of the records right now, was an okay protoss player back in the day if my memory serves me correctly. i'd say b/b- iccup peak?
GoShox was a solid protoss player for NA standards back then. Played a standard style relying on good mechanics and strategy rather than ape moving and coin flip builds. His style reminded me of Nony and Draw.
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Thadortin is an absolute maniac with that 5:24 . That said im coming for him..
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On January 08 2025 08:35 GTR wrote:
for what it's worth (and i hope he can clarify for me when he sees this thread), shox - the guy who holds most of the records right now, was an okay protoss player back in the day if my memory serves me correctly. i'd say b/b- iccup peak?
Gotta reach out to 7thAce who had Shox on the couch last AGDQ.
Nevermind, 7thAce already in the thread on the first page.
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For anyone that has completed the starcraft zerg campaign. What is the hardest mission ?
Thadortin time for mission 1 is so freak bro. Im getting there tho..
I have the basics so i can proly start grinding mission 2 already.
I wonder how difficult will be to keep a good record pace mission by mission non stop.
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You should record your attempts for individual levels and submit them to speedrun.com whenever you do well just to get yourself established on the individual level leaderboard.
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On January 09 2025 07:28 LordOfDabu wrote:
You should record your attempts for individual levels and submit them to speedrun.com whenever you do well just to get yourself established on the individual level leaderboard.
Will consider it . But so far i didnt break anything :D
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Ok, guys, so after hearing feedback from you, we will modify the challenge and add those rules to the competition:
-You have to save your run as video; (this one we would want your feedback about, cuz not sure)
- You have to use the latest available patch of the game;
- You have to use a real time timer in your attempts;
- Save and load is allowed, so long as it's in the same attempt.
- Real time ends when the victory box appears on screen during the final mission.
Modified challenge rules:
- We will give you some time to get ready - the challenge will start on 01.04.2025 and ends 31.12.2025;
- Everyone who will hold each campaign record will win $3.5/day.
- Main Prize: Person who holds the world records for the longest time (collectively throughout all six campaigns) will win extra $5,000.
- Challenger who will submit his run starts earning daily $ and days for Main Prize from the next day after submitting the record to the page
- Days for the Main Prize will be sum up from each campaign.
- Whoever is the world record holder starting April 1, starts earning money.
WR holders for now: (Will be updated on March 31)
SC - Terran - Shox
SC - Protoss - Thadortin
SC - Zerg - Shox
BW - Terran - Shox
BW - Protoss - Thadortin
BW - Zerg - 7thAce
The prize will be paid by usual means (fe. bank transfer).
We hope those changes will make this challenge more attractive and fair towards everyone.
We just need your feedback if you think video is enough, or streaming is needed to keep it integral ?
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On January 09 2025 06:53 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
For anyone that has completed the starcraft zerg campaign. What is the hardest mission ?
When I ran the base SC Zerg campaign, I found mission 8 to be the hardest (Eye for an Eye) due to heavy inconsistencies nearly an hour into the run.
That being said, the hardest mission is probably one that has the most precise AI manipulation and punishment if things go wrong. Full Circle seems tough to get just the right AI pulls, and any precise build orders with attacks are going to be tough (I'm thinking things like The Dark Templar).
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Russian Federation387 Posts
Great rule adjustment.
But a bit confused about main prize.
1. Suppose I got WR at all campaigns
2. 2 days later I lose 1 WR
3. No one ever hold all WRs later
To conclude I would have 1 day of full campaigns WRs
So the prize will be: main prize (5k) + sum of WR days hold * 3,5 , right?
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On January 09 2025 09:28 iFU.spx wrote:
Great rule adjustment.
But a bit confused about main prize.
1. Suppose I got WR at all campaigns
2. 2 days later I lose 1 WR
3. No one ever hold all WRs later
To conclude I would have 1 day of full campaigns WRs
So the prize will be: main prize (5k) + sum of WR days hold * 3,5 , right?
yes
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Hope the community can do something to detect cheated speedruns (e.g., edited recordings). There's lots of cheating in the speedrun world even without any monetary incentive. Competitors could consider streaming their attempts to minimize suspicion.
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Russian Federation1894 Posts
On January 09 2025 22:17 Puosu wrote:
Hope the community can do something to detect cheated speedruns (e.g., edited recordings). There's lots of cheating in the speedrun world even without any monetary incentive. Competitors could consider streaming their attempts to minimize suspicion. That's very easy. U just ensure there is no cola nor pizza in the video.
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On January 09 2025 22:17 Puosu wrote:
Hope the community can do something to detect cheated speedruns (e.g., edited recordings). There's lots of cheating in the speedrun world even without any monetary incentive. Competitors could consider streaming their attempts to minimize suspicion.
Providing a replay along with video is an option, but tbf there are many ways to detect spliced runs such as audio analysis, frame-by-frame manual tracking, etc. I imagine that any run coming out of nowhere to take the top spot would be scrutinized by the category moderators who have experience with the run, at minimum.
On January 09 2025 22:42 Rus_Brain wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2025 22:17 Puosu wrote:
Hope the community can do something to detect cheated speedruns (e.g., edited recordings). There's lots of cheating in the speedrun world even without any monetary incentive. Competitors could consider streaming their attempts to minimize suspicion. That's very easy. U just ensure there is no cola nor pizza in the video.
Unsurprised to see that you are a speedrunning fan 
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Russian Federation1894 Posts
On January 10 2025 08:50 Jealous wrote:Unsurprised to see that you are a speedrunning fan
Sometimes
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Ok, guys, so after hearing feedback from you, we will modify the challenge and add those rules to the competition:
-You have to save your run as video;
- You have to use the latest available patch of the game;
- You have to use a real time timer in your attempts;
- Save and load is allowed, so long as it's in the same attempt.
- Real time starts from the campaign selection menu, when the 1st mission of the campaign you are running is selected
- Real time ends when the victory box appears on screen during the final mission.
- Using glitches is allowed
Modified challenge rules:
- We will give you some time to get ready - the challenge will start on 01.04.2025 and ends 31.12.2025;
- Everyone who will hold each campaign record will win $3.5/day.
- Main Prize: Person who holds the world records for the longest time (collectively throughout all six campaigns) will win extra $5,000.
- Challenger who will submit his run to the wepbages starts earning daily $ and days for Main Prize from the next day after submitting the record to the page
- Days for the Main Prize will be sum up from each campaign.
- Whoever is the world record holder starting April 1, starts earning money.
WR holders for now: (Will be updated on March 31)
SC - Terran - Shox
SC - Protoss - Thadortin
SC - Zerg - Shox
BW - Terran - Shox
BW - Protoss - Thadortin
BW - Zerg - 7thAce
The prize will be paid by usual means (fe. bank transfer).
Timer that speedrunes uses: https://livesplit.github.io/ (you have to update it manually)
We hope those changes will make this challenge more attractive and fair towards everyone.
(I will update the main post)
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Man this is cool, happy hunting! Looking forward to seeing what maniac craziness speed runners can pull off here
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