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Mr. ZZZero. O, please consider my proposal for BSL

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chenchuan
Profile Joined February 2023
37 Posts
March 28 2023 23:48 GMT
#1
Hello, Mr. ZZZero. O.I am an SC1 player from China.I greatly admire your contribution to the SC1 community.But I hope you will consider my suggestion.
Please allow all SC1 players from around the world to participate in your competition.Including players from South Korea.Your current approach to locking the area.It has been proven by Blizzard several years ago to be very foolish and short-sighted.
Your current SC1 community is really too small.So that your audience can only provide you with very limited assistance.So what you need to do is expand your community.Expanding the community requires exciting competitions.It is difficult to obtain audience support and sponsorship without a sufficiently exciting competition.Let's imagine.If your game is as exciting as ASL.Is it easy to obtain tens of thousands of viewers?Can the sponsorship you need also be addressed?And this wonderful game requires Korean players to participate.I think Korean players are also very happy to play with your community.
In fact, this is also the reason for the rapid development of the SC1 community in China.Chinese SC1 players compete with top Korean players.Not only to improve their competitiveness,but also attract many new audiences.This allows the Chinese SC1 community to perform SC1 full-time like the Korean SC1 community.Full-time SC1 players are crucial to growing the community.So please consider my suggestion.
Finally, I want to send you an ancient Chinese saying:Walk a thousand miles,it starts with taking the first step.
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1474 Posts
March 29 2023 00:16 GMT
#2
lmfao
art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1202 Posts
March 29 2023 01:31 GMT
#3
On March 29 2023 08:48 chenchuan wrote:
Hello, Mr. ZZZero. O.I am an SC1 player from China.I greatly admire your contribution to the SC1 community.But I hope you will consider my suggestion.
Please allow all SC1 players from around the world to participate in your competition.Including players from South Korea.Your current approach to locking the area.It has been proven by Blizzard several years ago to be very foolish and short-sighted.
Your current SC1 community is really too small.So that your audience can only provide you with very limited assistance.So what you need to do is expand your community.Expanding the community requires exciting competitions.It is difficult to obtain audience support and sponsorship without a sufficiently exciting competition.Let's imagine.If your game is as exciting as ASL.Is it easy to obtain tens of thousands of viewers?Can the sponsorship you need also be addressed?And this wonderful game requires Korean players to participate.I think Korean players are also very happy to play with your community.
In fact, this is also the reason for the rapid development of the SC1 community in China.Chinese SC1 players compete with top Korean players.Not only to improve their competitiveness,but also attract many new audiences.This allows the Chinese SC1 community to perform SC1 full-time like the Korean SC1 community.Full-time SC1 players are crucial to growing the community.So please consider my suggestion.
Finally, I want to send you an ancient Chinese saying:Walk a thousand miles,it starts with taking the first step.

please tell them not to ban players like Dewalt or Bonyth in china
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jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5525 Posts
March 29 2023 03:51 GMT
#4
What tournamets are/were dewalt and bonyth banned from?
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Rovant1c
Profile Joined October 2014
China72 Posts
March 29 2023 06:08 GMT
#5
At least Mr.Chen found this forum,that's good for BSL.

One year ago,almost no Chinese know about Mr. Zzzero.
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
March 29 2023 06:15 GMT
#6
Literally wall of text, unreadable.
-.-
chenchuan
Profile Joined February 2023
37 Posts
March 29 2023 06:37 GMT
#7
On March 29 2023 10:31 art_of_turtle wrote:
please tell them not to ban players like Dewalt or Bonyth in china

Ha ha ha.Let's make a hypothesis.Assuming Dewalt and Bonyth can participate in the SC1 competition in China.Assuming they can defeat all Chinese players, including Mihu.Assuming they can win the championship.After all this.Can you save Mr. ZZZero and BSL?Will they contribute their championship bonuses to help the SC1 community?It doesn't seem like it will.So does it have anything to do with whether Mr. ZZZero can obtain sponsorship?
Let me tell you more.In the past few sessions of BSL with Chinese players participating.China sponsors up to $1500-2000 to BSL.
Spring Cup held in China now.There are no Chinese among the top 8 players.This means that about 29020 dollars will be taken away by foreigners.So why are they doing this?Is it because they're stupid?Of course not.The reason I made clear before this.I don't want to repeat it.
So who is biased now?Who is more open and inclusive?
marwin
Profile Joined June 2011
Ukraine111 Posts
March 29 2023 07:08 GMT
#8
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earob84
Profile Joined October 2017
Germany175 Posts
March 29 2023 07:19 GMT
#9
Tbh i reall like what you write and the concept makes sense.

But how can we handle the timezone issues and the biggest problem the LAG issue?

[JXSA].Zergling
Profile Joined July 2020
China186 Posts
March 29 2023 08:22 GMT
#10
CSL allows any European or American participation, provided there is no network delay。
Dewalt participated in the Spring Festival Cup because he didn't have network delays, and later he was kicked out because there were network delays when he returned to Russia。
by the way, one Chinese people have been kicked out of CSL due to network delays. Although he is Chinese, he seems to live in Japan。
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4233 Posts
March 29 2023 08:28 GMT
#11
lol
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M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4233 Posts
March 29 2023 08:29 GMT
#12
On March 29 2023 17:22 [JXSA].Zergling wrote:
CSL allows any European or American participation, provided there is no network delay。
Dewalt participated in the Spring Festival Cup because he didn't have network delays, and later he was kicked out because there were network delays when he returned to Russia。
by the way, one Chinese people have been kicked out of CSL due to network delays. Although he is Chinese, he seems to live in Japan。

so no chinese in bsl because of "network delay" neither

fair, imo
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chenchuan
Profile Joined February 2023
37 Posts
March 29 2023 08:51 GMT
#13
On March 29 2023 16:19 earob84 wrote:
Tbh i reall like what you write and the concept makes sense.

But how can we handle the timezone issues and the biggest problem the LAG issue?


We don't need to worry about time differences and network delays.Because the competition is voluntary.All competitors must abide by the rules.


There are many players with outstanding strength in the SC1 community in Korea.There will always be someone who can overcome these problems.All we need to do is provide an appropriate bonus.Use Korean players to bring us exciting games.Attract to a large audience and players.Strengthen our own community.
chenchuan
Profile Joined February 2023
37 Posts
March 29 2023 08:56 GMT
#14
On March 29 2023 17:29 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
so no chinese in bsl because of "network delay" neither

fair, imo

Please don't talk about network latency in my topic!

This has nothing to do with my topic!
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1474 Posts
March 29 2023 09:00 GMT
#15
On March 29 2023 17:56 chenchuan wrote:
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On March 29 2023 17:29 M3t4PhYzX wrote:
so no chinese in bsl because of "network delay" neither

fair, imo

Please don't talk about network latency in my topic!

This has nothing to do with my topic!


I mean lag certainly is part of it
2_2
Profile Joined June 2022
Poland30 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-03-29 09:04:32
March 29 2023 09:04 GMT
#16
Is it really exciting to see Korean players destroy everyone else? I mean, I get what the idea is, but maybe as another tournament/event in cooperation? Allowing Koreans to participate would effectively kill BSL as it is, instead of the best of Europe/China/NA/SA facing off against each other it would be Koreans eliminating everyone else than facing off against each other.
AncientSion
Profile Joined April 2017
73 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-03-29 09:07:03
March 29 2023 09:06 GMT
#17
mkay so BSL round of 32 all Koreans, that what u saying ?
LUCKY_NOOB
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Bulgaria1514 Posts
March 29 2023 09:20 GMT
#18
Nice troll lol brand new user ^_._^

Koreans leave over 69% of ladder games that lag (according to anecdotal evidence I have).

Not to mention the skill gap.

Also calling it SC1... Who does that?

Quote: "China sponsors up to $1500-2000 to BSL." I need confirmation on that one. I would be pleasantly surprised if true.

So "open" that the majority of Western social media platforms are blocked in China, including Twitch, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Snapchat, YouTube, TikTok and many others.

What a joke! ; D

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sas.Sziky
Profile Joined October 2011
Hungary332 Posts
March 29 2023 10:07 GMT
#19
i have a good idea listen me!!!!! BAN all from NA SA EU and invite Korean,Chinese players. why living to much i...ot in the world?
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9949 Posts
March 29 2023 10:23 GMT
#20
On March 29 2023 17:22 [JXSA].Zergling wrote:
CSL allows any European or American participation, provided there is no network delay。
Dewalt participated in the Spring Festival Cup because he didn't have network delays, and later he was kicked out because there were network delays when he returned to Russia。
by the way, one Chinese people have been kicked out of CSL due to network delays. Although he is Chinese, he seems to live in Japan。

Alright then, all Chinese players are welcome in BSL as long as they play from a western country..
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