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[ASL15] Afreeca Starleague To Start On Feb 28 - Page 3

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Sok211
Profile Joined November 2019
6 Posts
January 20 2023 17:33 GMT
#41
So psyched! I'm getting so psyched!
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
January 20 2023 20:54 GMT
#42
C'mon Rain stop fucking around, this might be your last chance before FlaSh comes back and rolls everybody.
sunbeams are never made like me...
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
Last Edited: 2023-01-20 22:14:02
January 20 2023 21:44 GMT
#43
It's not like the jury is still out on whether Rain is an amazing player, is it?

With one ASL, one KSL, and an ASL silver, isn't he tied with Last for third/fourth most accomplished player of the ASL/KSL period? (Behind Flash and Zero and ahead of Larva --- and that's being kind to Zero, rating one ASL gold over one KSL gold + one ASL silver, after the first ASL gold cancels out on both sides of the equation).

In terms of tournament placements, he's the most accomplished Protoss player since the ASL has existed.

I didn't start out as a big Rain fan, but his trophy collection speaks for itself and his games have really impressed me.
May the BeSt man win.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19366 Posts
January 20 2023 22:21 GMT
#44
On January 21 2023 06:44 Djabanete wrote:
It's not like the jury is still out on whether Rain is an amazing player, is it?

With one ASL, one KSL, and an ASL silver, isn't he tied with Last for third/fourth most accomplished player of the ASL/KSL period? (Behind Flash and Zero and ahead of Larva --- and that's being kind to Zero, rating one ASL gold over one KSL gold + one ASL silver, after the first ASL gold cancels out on both sides of the equation).

In terms of tournament placements, he's the most accomplished Protoss player since the ASL has existed.

I didn't start out as a big Rain fan, but his trophy collection speaks for itself and his games have really impressed me.

Big astrix is that Bisu was in the military for two years. The mandatory service length was only reduced when they saw Flash was going to have to join.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
bochs
Profile Joined February 2022
119 Posts
January 21 2023 16:36 GMT
#45
Terran is already in a dominant position, zerg not too far behind. Flash can prove himself to be God again if he can win ASL with protoss.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
January 22 2023 14:42 GMT
#46
Who was it (Hero?) who said that Rain would be the best if he stopped watching girl streams?
CHEONSOYUN
Profile Joined August 2017
604 Posts
January 22 2023 16:26 GMT
#47
On January 21 2023 07:21 BisuDagger wrote:
Big astrix is that Bisu was in the military for two years. The mandatory service length was only reduced when they saw Flash was going to have to join.


flash isn't that big of a deal
JAEDONG...!!! EFFORT IS ANGRY. ZERG...?!
Lazyer
Profile Joined August 2011
United States388 Posts
January 23 2023 08:12 GMT
#48
yoooo hella hype, cant wait to see who qualifies
ppp87
Profile Joined May 2016
Laos254 Posts
January 23 2023 14:48 GMT
#49
what place flash reached when he played ASL as random ?
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
January 23 2023 16:26 GMT
#50
On January 23 2023 23:48 ppp87 wrote:
what place flash reached when he played ASL as random ?

If I remember correctly he placed 3rd.
End1ess
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada77 Posts
January 23 2023 16:54 GMT
#51
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Bisu is busy until 2082
QOGQOG
Profile Joined July 2019
834 Posts
January 23 2023 17:56 GMT
#52
On January 24 2023 01:26 Piste wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2023 23:48 ppp87 wrote:
what place flash reached when he played ASL as random ?

If I remember correctly he placed 3rd.

Yep. Impressive run until he lost pretty decisively to Soma.

As far as Rain goes, he's certainly an impressive player, but if he does participate his lackluster PvT is really going to hurt him.
Mutaller
Profile Blog Joined July 2013
United States1051 Posts
January 23 2023 23:16 GMT
#53
I wonder who will qualify from online qualifiers this weekend, anyone we are expecting to make an appearance? I'd like to see DDasik or Khala qualify
"To practice isn't for you to get better now in the present. Practice will never betray you and will always come back for you in the future." -Jaedong
Fozzy_The_Bear
Profile Joined July 2018
1 Post
January 25 2023 21:29 GMT
#54
I think I missed it, is anyone casting this in English?
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8671 Posts
January 25 2023 21:31 GMT
#55
On January 26 2023 06:29 Fozzy_The_Bear wrote:
I think I missed it, is anyone casting this in English?


Not 100 % sure but I would bet on Scan and Nyoken to cast this live. At least I hope they will.
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3228 Posts
January 25 2023 22:09 GMT
#56
On January 26 2023 06:31 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2023 06:29 Fozzy_The_Bear wrote:
I think I missed it, is anyone casting this in English?


Not 100 % sure but I would bet on Scan and Nyoken to cast this live. At least I hope they will.

They won't. Starcast TV already announced:
https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxzyPRd2NmMAs4fHMckOjIJe1DJVz-yUxO

They also set up a patreon for Scan to solo cast it live, but I'm afraid the target of 2000$ per month wont be achieved.

The foreign community is piss poor when it comes to crowdfunding.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3695 Posts
January 25 2023 22:25 GMT
#57
Tastosis prob gonna continue to cast in english I'd imagine.
HOLYBATS
Profile Joined August 2021
Turkey791 Posts
January 26 2023 09:41 GMT
#58
For qualifiers i don't think English cast is available. I personally prefer watching Korean stream.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
January 26 2023 13:18 GMT
#59
Nyoken would like to do it, but unfortunately he can't justify waking up at 4:00 am to cast because he has a daytime job now.
FBH #1!
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5630 Posts
January 26 2023 14:59 GMT
#60
On January 26 2023 07:09 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2023 06:31 Miragee wrote:
On January 26 2023 06:29 Fozzy_The_Bear wrote:
I think I missed it, is anyone casting this in English?


Not 100 % sure but I would bet on Scan and Nyoken to cast this live. At least I hope they will.

They won't. Starcast TV already announced:
https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxzyPRd2NmMAs4fHMckOjIJe1DJVz-yUxO

They also set up a patreon for Scan to solo cast it live, but I'm afraid the target of 2000$ per month wont be achieved.

The foreign community is piss poor when it comes to crowdfunding.

Patreon goals are generally not realistic when there are only so many foreign BW fans and one could argue that a large sum of the money that's there for patreon is going to the wrong cause, then again one can also easily counter-argue that that money comes from supporters that aren't really BW fans. Anyway, that's just my opinion.

Let's not forgot this community was and is mostly run on efforts by volunteers. I think we need to be careful about not guilt tripping what's left of our community for not wanting to or even being able to support (more) patreons. I, for one, am a bit sick of seeing patreons pop up all the time when lots of volunteers behind the scenes aint got salary for years and still aint getting even a dime for it.


If it is any gauge: BSL has been getting around 500-700 live viewers recently and as of now has 119 patreon supporters.

If I were to drop $5 on the patreon for Scan, there will still need to be another 400 people like me doing that. Going by above's gauge, I'd be throwing my money at a goal that can't be reached. And I think we can all agree while $5 is not much or something significant to lose we'd rather use it on something else than essentially waste it. That makes sense, right?

Also if there are no English casts. We can still watch the Korean cast, for free, like all BW fans did back in the day.
So while it's nice to have an English cast available to view top BW content, it is a luxury at best. And luxuries are always first to go in any healthy financial plan.

TL;DR: The active BW community is rather small and I think it is unfair to use Tastosis' patreon as a gauge of what's possible for BW and what's not.
FBH #1!
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