• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:27
CET 02:27
KST 10:27
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
2026 KongFu Cup Announcement3BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled11Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains15Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block4GSL CK - New online series18
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Terran AddOns placement
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 KongFu Cup Announcement [GSL CK] Team Maru vs. Team herO StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BSL 22 Map Contest — Submissions OPEN to March 10 ASL21 General Discussion Are you ready for ASL 21? Hype VIDEO Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours IPSL Spring 2026 is here! ASL Season 21 Qualifiers March 7-8
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread No Man's Sky (PS4 and PC)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Mexico's Drug War Russo-Ukrainian War Thread NASA and the Private Sector
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion General nutrition recommendations Cricket [SPORT] TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1675 users

Crazy Zerg

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 5 10 11 12 Next All
CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1880 Posts
July 27 2021 09:09 GMT
#1
I've been seeing this strat pop up quite often recently particularly on Artosis' stream. Is this the new meta or whats going on here? How do you even beat this as Terran?
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
SpaNiarD
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Spain351 Posts
July 27 2021 09:40 GMT
#2
Can you specify a little bit more what is that strat about?
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5761 Posts
July 27 2021 09:46 GMT
#3
On July 27 2021 18:40 SpaNiarD wrote:
Can you specify a little bit more what is that strat about?


The Zerg bunkers up on 3 gas and rushes to Ultras with armor upgrades.
iFU.spx
Profile Joined April 2011
Russian Federation376 Posts
July 27 2021 10:11 GMT
#4
it's easy.

bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-27 10:27:05
July 27 2021 10:24 GMT
#5
Scan: 3 tanks + 1 vessel timing push.

A zerg who beat Arto today, he advised Arto that: make tank but Arto didn't believe in him.
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6815 Posts
July 27 2021 11:19 GMT
#6
rofl. What is next? How to beat 5 pool ?
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2337 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-27 21:40:31
July 27 2021 12:30 GMT
#7
crazy zerg is really old... in fact it was used during PL days on certain maps...

here is flash beating crazy zerg in 2009...

+ Show Spoiler +


here is JD using crazy zerg vs flash in 2009...

+ Show Spoiler +


but tbh, the way zergs are using crazy zerg on Eclipse is kinda BS imo.
ἡ τῆς Νεμέσεως τάξις
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1680 Posts
July 27 2021 14:12 GMT
#8
I remember EffOrt grinding up ladder vs "noobs" doing this. There is no way it is a reliable thing to do. Just don't do that, you will lose.
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
sjukungen2
Profile Joined July 2021
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-27 15:08:42
July 27 2021 15:06 GMT
#9
Did Artosis miss the whole 1-1-1 era where ZvT was almost unplayable in spongames? That shit was crazy
Forced Zerg to go 2h or 2.5h every game like jjabje kind of invented and it flipped the meta
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7005 Posts
July 27 2021 17:50 GMT
#10
Its not just crazy zerg, Artosis has concluded that defilers are overpowered as well and that zerg is the new protoss etc.
Kare
Profile Joined March 2009
Norway786 Posts
July 27 2021 18:15 GMT
#11
Fast factory and mass barracks into sunken break seems to work for me, but I guess you should listen to what Light says, even if it is through google translator
In life you can obtain all sorts of material wealth, but the real treasure is the epic feelings you get while doing something you love.
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
July 27 2021 18:26 GMT
#12
On July 28 2021 02:50 Puosu wrote:
Its not just crazy zerg, Artosis has concluded that defilers are overpowered as well and that zerg is the new protoss etc.


Yeah, those continious buffs on defilers in the last 10 years have really made them a force of reckoning unseen before in SC:BW.
CHEONSOYUN
Profile Joined August 2017
565 Posts
July 27 2021 18:32 GMT
#13
i feel kinda sorry for the people learning about BW through artosis. the game must seem so hopeless and constantly unfair
JAEDONG...!!! EFFORT IS ANGRY. ZERG...?!
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-27 18:41:39
July 27 2021 18:39 GMT
#14
On July 28 2021 03:32 CHEONSOYUN wrote:
i feel kinda sorry for the people learning about BW through artosis. the game must seem so hopeless and constantly unfair


Why? Isn't that the authentic BW experience?
tedster
Profile Joined May 2009
984 Posts
July 27 2021 21:33 GMT
#15
On July 27 2021 23:12 iFU.pauline wrote:
I remember EffOrt grinding up ladder vs "noobs" doing this. There is no way it is a reliable thing to do. Just don't do that, you will lose.


Crazy zerg is viable as a curveball strat and can be worth having in your repertoire for series or ladder play - it's not designed to be reliable so much as to punish a certain rigidity in Terran play. It's definitely not something you should have as the backbone of your gameplay as it's incredibly exploitable if your opponent knows it's coming, but that doesn't make it a bad strat or an autoloss.
the last wcs commissioner
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51560 Posts
July 28 2021 05:12 GMT
#16
On July 27 2021 21:30 XenOsky wrote:
crazy zerg is really old... in fact it was used during PL days on certain maps...

here is flash beating crazy zerg in 2009...

+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRCPlDJjIiU&ab_channel=nevake


here is JD using crazy zerg vs flash in 2009...

+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1X32S-pWwY&ab_channel=VioleTAK


but tbh, the way zergs are using crazy zerg on Eclipse is kinda BS imo.


a k-pop performer nearly beat an mbcgame trainee with it too lol
Commentator
bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
July 28 2021 06:11 GMT
#17
On July 28 2021 03:32 CHEONSOYUN wrote:
i feel kinda sorry for the people learning about BW through artosis. the game must seem so hopeless and constantly unfair

Nobody learns StarCraft from his stream, even himself.
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
July 28 2021 12:36 GMT
#18
I always thought this strat was something that was advised for low-lever Zergs who can't handle defiler-play? Don't play Terran so I can't say anything on what build exactly counters it but surely something EffOrt brings up in his F rank tutorial series can't be more than a strat to mix in occasionally?
Mine gas, build tanks.
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
July 28 2021 13:06 GMT
#19
it's not the same crazy zerg as old style one.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
VasiLk
Profile Joined July 2021
1 Post
July 28 2021 13:11 GMT
#20
Isn't that the authentic BW experience?
1 2 3 4 5 10 11 12 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 8h 33m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft487
Nina 99
SpeCial 66
Ketroc 65
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 10261
Dota 2
canceldota70
League of Legends
JimRising 486
Counter-Strike
taco 383
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox722
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor207
Other Games
summit1g12130
ViBE134
PiLiPiLi7
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2430
ComeBackTV 118
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 36
• davetesta15
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 17
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21417
League of Legends
• Doublelift5032
• Scarra1486
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
8h 33m
RSL Revival
8h 33m
ByuN vs SHIN
Maru vs Krystianer
WardiTV Team League
10h 33m
Patches Events
15h 33m
BSL
18h 33m
GSL
1d 6h
Wardi Open
1d 10h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 15h
OSC
1d 22h
WardiTV Team League
2 days
[ Show More ]
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
WardiTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
WardiTV Team League
5 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-13
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
BSL Season 22
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
NationLESS Cup
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.