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CicadaSC
Profile Joined January 2018
United States1597 Posts
July 27 2021 09:09 GMT
#1
I've been seeing this strat pop up quite often recently particularly on Artosis' stream. Is this the new meta or whats going on here? How do you even beat this as Terran?
Remember that we all come from a place of passion!!
SpaNiarD
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Spain346 Posts
July 27 2021 09:40 GMT
#2
Can you specify a little bit more what is that strat about?
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5536 Posts
July 27 2021 09:46 GMT
#3
On July 27 2021 18:40 SpaNiarD wrote:
Can you specify a little bit more what is that strat about?


The Zerg bunkers up on 3 gas and rushes to Ultras with armor upgrades.
iFU.spx
Profile Joined April 2011
Russian Federation368 Posts
July 27 2021 10:11 GMT
#4
it's easy.

bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-27 10:27:05
July 27 2021 10:24 GMT
#5
Scan: 3 tanks + 1 vessel timing push.

A zerg who beat Arto today, he advised Arto that: make tank but Arto didn't believe in him.
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6550 Posts
July 27 2021 11:19 GMT
#6
rofl. What is next? How to beat 5 pool ?
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2260 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-27 21:40:31
July 27 2021 12:30 GMT
#7
crazy zerg is really old... in fact it was used during PL days on certain maps...

here is flash beating crazy zerg in 2009...

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here is JD using crazy zerg vs flash in 2009...

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but tbh, the way zergs are using crazy zerg on Eclipse is kinda BS imo.
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iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1543 Posts
July 27 2021 14:12 GMT
#8
I remember EffOrt grinding up ladder vs "noobs" doing this. There is no way it is a reliable thing to do. Just don't do that, you will lose.
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sjukungen2
Profile Joined July 2021
2 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-27 15:08:42
July 27 2021 15:06 GMT
#9
Did Artosis miss the whole 1-1-1 era where ZvT was almost unplayable in spongames? That shit was crazy
Forced Zerg to go 2h or 2.5h every game like jjabje kind of invented and it flipped the meta
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
6985 Posts
July 27 2021 17:50 GMT
#10
Its not just crazy zerg, Artosis has concluded that defilers are overpowered as well and that zerg is the new protoss etc.
Kare
Profile Joined March 2009
Norway786 Posts
July 27 2021 18:15 GMT
#11
Fast factory and mass barracks into sunken break seems to work for me, but I guess you should listen to what Light says, even if it is through google translator
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Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
July 27 2021 18:26 GMT
#12
On July 28 2021 02:50 Puosu wrote:
Its not just crazy zerg, Artosis has concluded that defilers are overpowered as well and that zerg is the new protoss etc.


Yeah, those continious buffs on defilers in the last 10 years have really made them a force of reckoning unseen before in SC:BW.
CHEONSOYUN
Profile Joined August 2017
517 Posts
July 27 2021 18:32 GMT
#13
i feel kinda sorry for the people learning about BW through artosis. the game must seem so hopeless and constantly unfair
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Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1404 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-07-27 18:41:39
July 27 2021 18:39 GMT
#14
On July 28 2021 03:32 CHEONSOYUN wrote:
i feel kinda sorry for the people learning about BW through artosis. the game must seem so hopeless and constantly unfair


Why? Isn't that the authentic BW experience?
tedster
Profile Joined May 2009
984 Posts
July 27 2021 21:33 GMT
#15
On July 27 2021 23:12 iFU.pauline wrote:
I remember EffOrt grinding up ladder vs "noobs" doing this. There is no way it is a reliable thing to do. Just don't do that, you will lose.


Crazy zerg is viable as a curveball strat and can be worth having in your repertoire for series or ladder play - it's not designed to be reliable so much as to punish a certain rigidity in Terran play. It's definitely not something you should have as the backbone of your gameplay as it's incredibly exploitable if your opponent knows it's coming, but that doesn't make it a bad strat or an autoloss.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51432 Posts
July 28 2021 05:12 GMT
#16
On July 27 2021 21:30 XenOsky wrote:
crazy zerg is really old... in fact it was used during PL days on certain maps...

here is flash beating crazy zerg in 2009...

+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRCPlDJjIiU&ab_channel=nevake


here is JD using crazy zerg vs flash in 2009...

+ Show Spoiler +
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1X32S-pWwY&ab_channel=VioleTAK


but tbh, the way zergs are using crazy zerg on Eclipse is kinda BS imo.


a k-pop performer nearly beat an mbcgame trainee with it too lol
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bovienchien
Profile Joined March 2014
Vietnam1152 Posts
July 28 2021 06:11 GMT
#17
On July 28 2021 03:32 CHEONSOYUN wrote:
i feel kinda sorry for the people learning about BW through artosis. the game must seem so hopeless and constantly unfair

Nobody learns StarCraft from his stream, even himself.
https://www.facebook.com/StarcraftRemasteredVN/
Akio
Profile Blog Joined January 2019
Finland1838 Posts
July 28 2021 12:36 GMT
#18
I always thought this strat was something that was advised for low-lever Zergs who can't handle defiler-play? Don't play Terran so I can't say anything on what build exactly counters it but surely something EffOrt brings up in his F rank tutorial series can't be more than a strat to mix in occasionally?
Mine gas, build tanks.
LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
July 28 2021 13:06 GMT
#19
it's not the same crazy zerg as old style one.
Trying my best for ASL, ASTL
VasiLk
Profile Joined July 2021
1 Post
July 28 2021 13:11 GMT
#20
Isn't that the authentic BW experience?
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