On January 17 2021 23:36 InfCereal wrote: Man would I love to be a fly on the wall in Blizzard offices right now.
So many people just up and leaving.
rather not from all the birdies I hear it's toxic as fuck.
A lot of us got this scene when Activision took over. Still love hearing how many people were defending this move. Their ability to run a global league is embarrassing.
Things definitely went from prioritizing players to prioritizing money once activision became involved.
On January 17 2021 10:16 Puosu wrote: BW's happiest was when Blizz hadn't interfered in years...
Well, it was worth buying remastered for the widescreen mode and the new graphics were nice I guess.
Development has dragged on way too long.At least they didn't completely fuck it up like War3 but it's disappointing how they've handled the game and the game deserved far better.
Last patch was just new ladder maps and avatars, is that all to expect in future?
What's wrong with War3? Other than releasing a remastered version, that's all I'm aware of.
On January 17 2021 10:16 Puosu wrote: BW's happiest was when Blizz hadn't interfered in years...
Well, it was worth buying remastered for the widescreen mode and the new graphics were nice I guess.
Development has dragged on way too long.At least they didn't completely fuck it up like War3 but it's disappointing how they've handled the game and the game deserved far better.
Last patch was just new ladder maps and avatars, is that all to expect in future?
What's wrong with War3? Other than releasing a remastered version, that's all I'm aware of.
The remastered version of War3 dropped the ball in a lot of areas. Most notably, it released without matchmaking at first and a whole host of other major issues, and to my understanding most aren't fixed yet. That would be fine, you could just ignore it entirely, but they killed the old client's multiplayer.
Anyway I haven't sunk much time into it and I was never into Warcraft 3 competitively, so I don't know all of the ways it differs from pre-remastered, but in comparison BW seems like it got off easy in all of this. Tasteless did a video on the Warcraft 3 remaster:
We’ve been wanting to deliver a group matchmaking feature since release. On last year’s Pylon Show at BlizzCon, I indicated that we were pushing the release until this year (2019). Recently, it’s become apparent that we cannot deliver this feature this year.
Although it’s probably little consolation, to give some context as to why it is taking longer than anticipated: since we’re a small team juggling many priorities, for large tasks like this we’re reliant on receiving help from various other teams. We’ve made progress in this area, but thus far the planets have not aligned to receive all the help we need just yet.
We’re also exploring other, more creative avenues to get the work done. And as far as good news goes, the SCR team has been working on this feature since last year, and a decent portion of the work is complete - just not to the point of release readiness yet.
Group MM has been one of our highest priorities for some time. It’s a feature we’d love to deliver and something we’re pushing for constantly and will continue pushing for."
On January 18 2021 12:16 LaStScan wrote: Thank you for your service, Grant Davies. Btw, who will be the leader/developer for the next and continue updating StarCraft: Remastered?
Not trying to be overly pessimistic, but with the recent discontinuance of Blizzard's (or rather Activisions) support of SC2, I highly doubt there is anyone updating SC:R at all. Maybe every three months someone will press the ladder reset button and that's it.
On January 18 2021 12:16 LaStScan wrote: Thank you for your service, Grant Davies. Btw, who will be the leader/developer for the next and continue updating StarCraft: Remastered?
If you see a job posting on the Blizzard website, then they may continue it, otherwise I don't expect it unfortunately, unless it is community related in my opinion.
On January 18 2021 12:16 LaStScan wrote: Thank you for your service, Grant Davies. Btw, who will be the leader/developer for the next and continue updating StarCraft: Remastered?
Not trying to be overly pessimistic, but with the recent discontinuance of Blizzard's (or rather Activisions) support of SC2, I highly doubt there is anyone updating SC:R at all. Maybe every three months someone will press the ladder reset button and that's it.
Nothing on the list has been done since he last updated it, mostly just a few performance fixes/minor bug fixes/ladder season changed since late 2019.IMO safe to say nothing else on the list will be completed but i'm glad to be proven wrong on that.
Additionally the last Starcraft Remastered development update he did on youtube was way back in April 2019 : + Show Spoiler +
I guess thats the end for SCR development. I really don't understand Blizzard. It is by far their most viewed eSport atm (given Overwatch is known to be botted). Why not invest something into it?
On January 18 2021 18:13 Lorch wrote: I guess thats the end for SCR development. I really don't understand Blizzard. It is by far their most viewed eSport atm (given Overwatch is known to be botted). Why not invest something into it?
I think it's ridiculous to think Overwatch still isn't getting better viewship, but even ignoring that, there is seriously not any money being made here.
I'm a huge Starcraft fan, and even if I was the one running Blizz, I wouldn't invest in Starcraft, or any traditional RTS for that matter.
WoW & CoD are much more reliable, grander money makers than any RTS they've made. I bet even Hearthstone has done better on all fronts than their all their RTS' combined.
On January 18 2021 18:13 Lorch wrote: I guess thats the end for SCR development. I really don't understand Blizzard. It is by far their most viewed eSport atm (given Overwatch is known to be botted). Why not invest something into it?
It doesn't make any money.
They tried to milk the game with some tournament licenses that they made organizers pay (like Afreeca) but eventually they gave up on that. All this while they've dumped millions and millions of dollars on the SC2 'e-sport' scene in the last decade to later realize that that's a dead-end too and dump that game too.
One thing that I'll never understand is why they don't off-shore all development work to Korea for SC:R where clearly a job like this would be sought after and it would probably cheaper than a US-based team.
That way they could also plug into the local community and understand how to move the game forward.
OR
On January 18 2021 18:22 fLyiNgDroNe wrote: Just release the source code for it to find new responsible hands of passionate devs...
On January 18 2021 12:16 LaStScan wrote: Thank you for your service, Grant Davies. Btw, who will be the leader/developer for the next and continue updating StarCraft: Remastered?
If you see a job posting on the Blizzard website, then they may continue it, otherwise I don't expect it unfortunately, unless it is community related in my opinion.
i would love to start working at Blizzard. Imagine having the job at the SC:R department, i can just arrive to work and do nothing for a year or so.
Just switch laddermaps sometimes inbetween and then go back to doing nothing
On January 18 2021 12:16 LaStScan wrote: Thank you for your service, Grant Davies. Btw, who will be the leader/developer for the next and continue updating StarCraft: Remastered?
If you see a job posting on the Blizzard website, then they may continue it, otherwise I don't expect it unfortunately, unless it is community related in my opinion.
i would love to start working at Blizzard. Imagine having the job at the SC:R department, i can just arrive to work and do nothing for a year or so.
Just switch laddermaps sometimes inbetween and then go back to doing nothing
There was never any SC:R Team. Just a Classic Games team that worked on whatever was prioritized at a given time.
Pretty clearly that was Warcraft Reforged for the past 1.5 years.
BTW, Age of Empires 2 is having 20K viewer tournaments on twitch with a new expansion (yes) released on the January 26th.
RTS is not dead, it's just that Blizzard has slowly and methodically killed all of their RTS titles.
On January 18 2021 12:16 LaStScan wrote: Thank you for your service, Grant Davies. Btw, who will be the leader/developer for the next and continue updating StarCraft: Remastered?
If you see a job posting on the Blizzard website, then they may continue it, otherwise I don't expect it unfortunately, unless it is community related in my opinion.
i would love to start working at Blizzard. Imagine having the job at the SC:R department, i can just arrive to work and do nothing for a year or so.
Just switch laddermaps sometimes inbetween and then go back to doing nothing
There was never any SC:R Team. Just a Classic Games team that worked on whatever was prioritized at a given time.
Pretty clearly that was Warcraft Reforged for the past 1.5 years.
BTW, Age of Empires 2 is having 20K viewer tournaments on twitch with a new expansion (yes) released on the January 26th.
RTS is not dead, it's just that Blizzard has slowly and methodically killed all of their RTS titles.
yep.. +1 to this.. what a shame that Activision holds all the best e-sport RTS titles.. :/
On January 18 2021 18:13 Lorch wrote: I guess thats the end for SCR development. I really don't understand Blizzard. It is by far their most viewed eSport atm (given Overwatch is known to be botted). Why not invest something into it?
It doesn't make any money.
They tried to milk the game with some tournament licenses that they made organizers pay (like Afreeca) but eventually they gave up on that. All this while they've dumped millions and millions of dollars on the SC2 'e-sport' scene in the last decade to later realize that that's a dead-end too and dump that game too.
One thing that I'll never understand is why they don't off-shore all development work to Korea for SC:R where clearly a job like this would be sought after and it would probably cheaper than a US-based team.
That way they could also plug into the local community and understand how to move the game forward.