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Afreeca Starcraft Team League Announced - Page 17

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oxKnu
Profile Joined December 2017
1244 Posts
June 28 2020 12:49 GMT
#321
The product placement was legendary.

Hopefully more sponsors jump in and this kind of thing becomes regular once audiences are allowed.
CeJo
Profile Joined June 2019
11 Posts
June 28 2020 14:49 GMT
#322
http://m.afreecatv.com/afstar1/video/37021724/58442669/home
REDBLUEGREEN
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Germany1904 Posts
June 28 2020 19:31 GMT
#323
Really nice that they are doing reaction shots now and show the players face when something significant happens ingame. It's probably the nr. 1 thing I missed from the past.
sntct
Profile Joined February 2018
100 Posts
June 29 2020 01:27 GMT
#324
Will Sayle bg cast this league?
afreecaTV.Char
Profile Joined December 2014
United States339 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-09 19:45:49
June 29 2020 19:28 GMT
#325
On June 24 2020 08:56 srj wrote:
Don't a ton of Korean viewers watch ASL re-streamed on their favourite streamer's AfreecaTV channel? Surely an English caster would be allowed to do that provided they streamed solely on AfreecaTV as well?

Yes, this would be allowed. We could possibly provide a clean feed for it as well. Update: It's not possible.
Former AfreecaTV Esports Manager (2014-2024)
Burned Toast *
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada2040 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-30 10:13:55
June 30 2020 10:13 GMT
#326
On June 30 2020 04:28 afreecaTV.Char wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2020 08:56 srj wrote:
Don't a ton of Korean viewers watch ASL re-streamed on their favourite streamer's AfreecaTV channel? Surely an English caster would be allowed to do that provided they streamed solely on AfreecaTV as well?

Yes, this would be allowed. We could possibly provide a clean feed for it as well.


Will the VODs of ASTL eventually be available on AfreecaTV eSports YT channel like it is for SC2 ? Timestamping videos on-the-fly is still a problem with the Afreeca player for linking any specific match and it lags for many of our viewers.
TvT matchup is sometimes worse than jailtime
afreecaTV.Char
Profile Joined December 2014
United States339 Posts
July 02 2020 01:07 GMT
#327
On June 30 2020 19:13 Burned Toast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2020 04:28 afreecaTV.Char wrote:
On June 24 2020 08:56 srj wrote:
Don't a ton of Korean viewers watch ASL re-streamed on their favourite streamer's AfreecaTV channel? Surely an English caster would be allowed to do that provided they streamed solely on AfreecaTV as well?

Yes, this would be allowed. We could possibly provide a clean feed for it as well.


Will the VODs of ASTL eventually be available on AfreecaTV eSports YT channel like it is for SC2 ? Timestamping videos on-the-fly is still a problem with the Afreeca player for linking any specific match and it lags for many of our viewers.


I do not believe there are any plans of uploading the full VODs to YouTube at this time. As far as I know, they are only uploading highlights. Here is the current playlist.
Former AfreecaTV Esports Manager (2014-2024)
DjKniteX
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States244 Posts
July 06 2020 04:53 GMT
#328
Glad to see another professional team league for BW; can't wait to see what the league has in store; trying to catch up on the VODs now
"You know my methods.... Apply them"
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2106 Posts
July 06 2020 11:02 GMT
#329
i dunno, so far id say its criminally underwatched

at least compared to mpl
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
July 18 2020 02:19 GMT
#330
On June 30 2020 04:28 afreecaTV.Char wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2020 08:56 srj wrote:
Don't a ton of Korean viewers watch ASL re-streamed on their favourite streamer's AfreecaTV channel? Surely an English caster would be allowed to do that provided they streamed solely on AfreecaTV as well?

Yes, this would be allowed. We could possibly provide a clean feed for it as well. Update: It's not possible.

Did things change?
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
sntct
Profile Joined February 2018
100 Posts
July 18 2020 02:28 GMT
#331
On June 30 2020 04:28 afreecaTV.Char wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2020 08:56 srj wrote:
Don't a ton of Korean viewers watch ASL re-streamed on their favourite streamer's AfreecaTV channel? Surely an English caster would be allowed to do that provided they streamed solely on AfreecaTV as well?

Yes, this would be allowed. We could possibly provide a clean feed for it as well. Update: It's not possible.


Are you absolutely kidding me?
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4237 Posts
July 18 2020 07:09 GMT
#332
On July 06 2020 20:02 Ziggy wrote:
i dunno, so far id say its criminally underwatched

at least compared to mpl

yeah I agree..

+ not having a professional english cast hurts a lot, too. I think Tastosis would hype it into oblivion otherwise
odi profanum vulgus et arceo
Grouhh
Profile Joined May 2019
57 Posts
July 18 2020 10:55 GMT
#333
On June 30 2020 04:28 afreecaTV.Char wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2020 08:56 srj wrote:
Don't a ton of Korean viewers watch ASL re-streamed on their favourite streamer's AfreecaTV channel? Surely an English caster would be allowed to do that provided they streamed solely on AfreecaTV as well?

Yes, this would be allowed. We could possibly provide a clean feed for it as well. Update: It's not possible.

Oh, great. You may as well consider putting some geographical restriction on afreecaTv so that no foreigner is able to watch it without a vpn.
Grouhh
Profile Joined May 2019
57 Posts
July 18 2020 10:59 GMT
#334
On July 06 2020 20:02 Ziggy wrote:
i dunno, so far id say its criminally underwatched

at least compared to mpl

Yeah, and it is little surprise considering the lack of official English cast.

I personally stopped watching after eonzerg's last cast because:
- afreeca stream does not work well
- I have no idea who half of the players are
- the level of play is obviously lower than ASL or other major tournaments
- all the "team" stuff is pointless if you can't understand a word of what the players say
- I am clueless about pro strategies in 2v2 / 3v3

All of this could be fixed with proper English cast, ideally on YouTube. Tasteless has stated multiple times that he was interested. I don't see any reason it would get less audience than regular ASL, because honestly, the tournament looks great.

But as it is, it seems one really needs to be a hardcore fan to enjoy it as a foreigner :-(
Ziggy
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
South Korea2106 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-07-18 12:31:56
July 18 2020 12:30 GMT
#335
On July 18 2020 19:55 Grouhh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2020 04:28 afreecaTV.Char wrote:
On June 24 2020 08:56 srj wrote:
Don't a ton of Korean viewers watch ASL re-streamed on their favourite streamer's AfreecaTV channel? Surely an English caster would be allowed to do that provided they streamed solely on AfreecaTV as well?

Yes, this would be allowed. We could possibly provide a clean feed for it as well. Update: It's not possible.

Oh, great. You may as well consider putting some geographical restriction on afreecaTv so that no foreigner is able to watch it without a vpn.


On July 18 2020 19:59 Grouhh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2020 20:02 Ziggy wrote:
i dunno, so far id say its criminally underwatched

at least compared to mpl

Yeah, and it is little surprise considering the lack of official English cast.

I personally stopped watching after eonzerg's last cast because:
- afreeca stream does not work well
- I have no idea who half of the players are
- the level of play is obviously lower than ASL or other major tournaments
- all the "team" stuff is pointless if you can't understand a word of what the players say
- I am clueless about pro strategies in 2v2 / 3v3

All of this could be fixed with proper English cast, ideally on YouTube. Tasteless has stated multiple times that he was interested. I don't see any reason it would get less audience than regular ASL, because honestly, the tournament looks great.

But as it is, it seems one really needs to be a hardcore fan to enjoy it as a foreigner :-(



a company doesn't want to spend resources on something that generates literally no return on investment? wow, ok
WriterDefeating a sandwich only makes it tastier. @imjustziggy
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
July 18 2020 13:02 GMT
#336
Where can I find eonzerg's astl casts?
Grouhh
Profile Joined May 2019
57 Posts
July 18 2020 17:50 GMT
#337
On July 18 2020 22:02 Piste wrote:
Where can I find eonzerg's astl casts?

http://bj.afreecatv.com/eonzerg/vods
Grouhh
Profile Joined May 2019
57 Posts
July 18 2020 17:58 GMT
#338
On July 18 2020 21:30 Ziggy wrote:
a company doesn't want to spend resources on something that generates literally no return on investment? wow, ok

I dont know, is that really no return at all ? Wouldn't Gillette be interested to advertise to foreigners, too ?
Are we really so few that it's not worth it ?
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10287 Posts
July 18 2020 18:29 GMT
#339
On July 19 2020 02:58 Grouhh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2020 21:30 Ziggy wrote:
a company doesn't want to spend resources on something that generates literally no return on investment? wow, ok

I dont know, is that really no return at all ? Wouldn't Gillette be interested to advertise to foreigners, too ?
Are we really so few that it's not worth it ?

I'm guessing this is a sponsorship by Gillette Korea, so yes, they likely don't care about reaching one or two hundred live viewers elsewhere in the world which can't buy their product. Commercially speaking, the foreign audience is unfortunately completely negligible, so your entitled attitude is misguided at best.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
afreecaTV.Char
Profile Joined December 2014
United States339 Posts
July 18 2020 19:21 GMT
#340
On July 18 2020 11:19 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 30 2020 04:28 afreecaTV.Char wrote:
On June 24 2020 08:56 srj wrote:
Don't a ton of Korean viewers watch ASL re-streamed on their favourite streamer's AfreecaTV channel? Surely an English caster would be allowed to do that provided they streamed solely on AfreecaTV as well?

Yes, this would be allowed. We could possibly provide a clean feed for it as well. Update: It's not possible.

Did things change?


First it was ok, then another team internally said that by providing a clean feed it could be interpreted that we violated our contract with Blizzard. That's not to say that Eonzerg/Cruiser0929 are not able to cast over the ASTL. We are just not legally able to provide the clean feed unfortunately.

+ Show Spoiler +
Truthfully it's probably not nearly as big of a deal as they make it seem. They said a similar thing about the ASL once, but then it turned out to be fine. I understand though, that they live in total fear of Blizzard.
Former AfreecaTV Esports Manager (2014-2024)
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