EPTCannot find the match either
Nothing on Flash youtube channel and only this game on Larva
Both played with their main races and it was a very nice game indeed !
Flash says he will choose random - Page 18
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prosatan
Romania8290 Posts
Cannot find the match either Nothing on Flash youtube channel and only this game on Larva Both played with their main races and it was a very nice game indeed ! | ||
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ggsimida
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prosatan
Romania8290 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Flash wins 2-0  | ||
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TornadoSteve
1068 Posts
who can it be? surely a top top protoss player but speed reaction eliminate stork; decision making and overall game kind of eliminates Mini and Best; perfect macro disqualify SnOw; mayyy beee Rain or mayyyyyyy beeeeee Bisu zero weakness. this definy flash the best. its really insane. You almost can tell its flash as p even if u dont know whos playing. variance: larva's face on the last zeals wave hitting his natural. clearly thats not a number (or perhaps a timing) he faced often in the past. | ||
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arkedos
Germany1426 Posts
It is often so tense. | ||
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
On June 01 2020 13:15 TornadoSteve wrote: Whats really really sick about it is that you show those games (lets say game 2) to anyone decent without saying who the p is; just with the speed reaction to hold the lings run by, the den target or the speed that he take care of his zeal(s) to not chase a single dra or target a building during the attack all while macroing without missing a beat... who can it be? surely a top top protoss player but speed reaction eliminate stork; decision making and overall game kind of eliminates Mini and Best; perfect macro disqualify SnOw; mayyy beee Rain or mayyyyyyy beeeeee Bisu zero weakness. this definy flash the best. its really insane. You almost can tell its flash as p even if u dont know whos playing. variance: larva's face on the last zeals wave hitting his natural. clearly thats not a number (or perhaps a timing) he faced often in the past. Agreed. I've been impressed by Flash's zealot micro, and his probe pull in game 2 was great too. And the decision making! When the zerglings broke into his natural, he didn't turn his zealots around even for a second. They just kept marching forward while the probes handled the situation at home. He was cool as a cucumber, just like when he plays Terran. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
On June 01 2020 17:13 arkedos wrote: What I find more interesting is the fact that a lot of these games of top notch koreans look very scrappy in the late game, not so much because they make so much mistakes, it is more like that both bases lie in shambles production gets very slow because all worker died from all the heated battles everywhere on the map. It is often so tense. It's the maps. The third and other expoes aren't so defensible anymore. | ||
BisuDagger
Bisutopia19262 Posts
I don't see Flash approaching peak Jaedong as Zerg without a 100% commitment to the race. The micro practice and nuances of Zerg require your full practice attention. | ||
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TornadoSteve
1068 Posts
But Rain's pvz before he stopped to play was way way wayyyy more better than the actual Bisu's pvz. I thik he had no more motivation and that would explain his last offstage series against Light. I am looking both streams, Bisu looks like he cannot get back to his top form so id say that Flash p is better than Bisu p in all 3 mu atm | ||
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oshibori_probe
United States2933 Posts
On June 03 2020 01:03 BisuDagger wrote: I find it reasonable for Flash to reach Rain's level of Protoss with enough practice. I don't say Bisu's level purely because hardly anyone touches his peak PvZ. I don't see Flash approaching peak Jaedong as Zerg without a 100% commitment to the race. The micro practice and nuances of Zerg require your full practice attention. The bias is real | ||
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puppykiller
United States3130 Posts
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kogeT
Poland2040 Posts
04:58:00 here (I recommend): http://vod.afreecatv.com/PLAYER/STATION/57357201 Or from obs perspective here: | ||
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kidleaderr
363 Posts
bisu choked so hard. crazy comeback from flash | ||
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
Bisu's late game vs terran is plagued with the same mistakes he was making a decade ago. Bad stasises blocking his own army, few if no high templars, few if no cannons at expos, bad carrier control (if he goes carriers)... His aggression/micro is great, his early/mid game is good but he just can't finish the game if it goes too late (especially vs Flash). On the other hand, he is still amazing vs zergs. | ||
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reincremate
China2215 Posts
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TelecoM
United States10675 Posts
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prosatan
Romania8290 Posts
On June 03 2020 12:32 reincremate wrote: Who's the guy in the bottom right of the VOD? It is Rush. Don't need to tell you the other two observers | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19262 Posts
On June 03 2020 02:00 TornadoSteve wrote: Rain is pretty much retired or in a long break unfortunately. Actually if someone knows more information about Rain please post it! But Rain's pvz before he stopped to play was way way wayyyy more better than the actual Bisu's pvz. I thik he had no more motivation and that would explain his last offstage series against Light. I am looking both streams, Bisu looks like he cannot get back to his top form so id say that Flash p is better than Bisu p in all 3 mu atm I'm refering to Bisu and Jaedong at their peak. I'd say without Flash picking one race to practice: He will never reach Bisu's peak PvZ; He will never reach Jangbi's PvT. He will never reach Jaedong's peak ZvZ or ZvT. In regards to Rain, are you seriously saying that Rain's peak PvZ was better then Bisu's peak? The guy has a 47% winrate in the matchup and it was an almost guarantee he'd be knocked out of the tournament if he met a quality Zerg player. I'm not sure any amount of motivation would get him close to Bisu's PvZ. I think Rain is an incredible player, but Protoss in generally are just simply bad vs Zerg. Mini, Snow, and Stork also have sub 50% winrates versus Zerg. As far as I know, BeSt is the only one who has shown promise in the matchup since returning to BW. | ||
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ProMeTheus112
France2027 Posts
On June 04 2020 00:25 BisuDagger wrote:As far as I know, BeSt is the only one who has shown promise in the matchup since returning to BW. And yet I have heard him say something like "I have given up vs Zerg" : O in my opinion, PvZ is the most imbalanced matchup and favors Z too much. The lategame especially favors Z (better defense, better attack), while there is no guarantee that you can get ahead of the Z in the early or midgame at all. That's how it feels and looks like to me but as a player I have also refused to do any FE cause I wanted to explore 1base opening style. | ||
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BisuDagger
Bisutopia19262 Posts
On June 04 2020 01:42 ProMeTheus112 wrote: And yet I have heard him say something like "I have given up vs Zerg" : O Yeah, sadly he has lost momentum in the matchup. He was famous for Doh-sairs for a long time, then when he returned he suddenly started using them effectively and was seemingly the only Protoss for a while who was able to keep vision by air and survive until the midgame. | ||
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