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ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
November 09 2020 19:43 GMT
#401
Are you sure he is changing back to T? As I understand this post was before his 3rd place game. And in the interview after he won Larva, Tasteless translated that he does not know, if he stays as random or terran for next asl

Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10232 Posts
November 09 2020 19:51 GMT
#402
The meta game of random is so interesting, and the smaller bits make it so fun to watch imo. Like Flash's scouting patterns change a lot as random to hide his race for as long as possible (overlord on plasma going to the corners instead of directly to the bases).

That being said, I do want to see him go back to Terran. playing random means only random really gets to play mindgames for the downside of having to know 3 races.
Writer#1 KT and FlaSh Fanboy || Woo Jung Ho Never Forget || Teamliquid Political Decision Desk
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Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
November 09 2020 20:38 GMT
#403
I hope Flash plays whatever race he finds most motivating.

... And I hope that race is Random :D :D
May the BeSt man win.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 09 2020 23:33 GMT
#404
I want Flash to play Zerg next and become a Zerg bonjwa. You can do it Flash!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Jacmert
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1709 Posts
November 09 2020 23:34 GMT
#405
Obviously the next step is someone else has to go random so we can see the Random vs Random matchup against Flash.
Plat Support Main #believe
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1711 Posts
November 10 2020 00:49 GMT
#406
On November 09 2020 19:27 prosatan wrote:
I didn't want to make another thread and I will bump this one.

Original message (posted two days ago):

LAST RANDOM PLAY @ ASL! VS LARVA
처음이자 마지막으로 출전했던 랜덤 ASL!
이제는 3,4위전만 남았습니다!
과연 이영호 선수는 임홍규 선수를 상대로 3,4위전에서 이길 수 있을까요?

오늘 이영호 유튜브로 ASL경기를 봐야하는 이유!

#1 오늘은 중계가 불가하기에 ASL 공식방송 녹화본이 업로드 됩니다
박상현, 이승원, 임성춘이 중계하는 공식영상으로 만나보시죠!

#2 3:0으로 끝나도 3:1로 끝나도 스포일러 방지영상으로 경기결과 모르고 보기!
경기영상 갯수로 스포일로가 가능했던 점을 방지하고자 스포일러 방지영상을 업로드합니다!
p.s 스포일러 방지영상에 싫어요는 자제해주세요(ㅠ_ㅠ)

구독과 알람설정 후 기다려주세요!

ASL 시즌 10 3/4위전
2020.11.07 19:00(KST)
이영호 (R) VS 임홍규 (Z)
1경기 : 이클립스
2경기 : 플라즈마
3경기 : 폴리포이드
4경기 : 벤젠
5경기 : 옵티마이저

Source: https://www.youtube.com/c/FlaSh이영호/community

Google translate:

The first and last random ASL to compete!
Only 3rd and 4th place matches are left now!
Will Lee Young-ho be able to win the 3rd and 4th place against Lim Hong-gyu?

Why Lee Young-ho should watch ASL games on YouTube today!

#1 A record of ASL's official broadcast will be uploaded because it cannot be broadcast today.
Let's see the official video broadcast by Park Sang-hyun, Lee Seung-won, and Lim Seong-chun!

#2 Even if it ends in 3:0, even if it ends in 3:1, it is a spoiler prevention video and you do not know the match result!
We upload a spoiler prevention video to prevent spoiling from the number of game videos!
p.s Please refrain from dislike of spoiler prevention video (ㅠ_ㅠ)

Please wait after subscribing and setting the alarm!

ASL Season 10 3rd Place Match
2020.11.07 19:00(KST)
Youngho Lee (R) VS Hongkyu Lim (Z)
Match 1: Eclipse
Match 2: Plasma
Match 3: Polypoid
Match 4: Benzene
Match 5: Optimizer

I guess this is it! Next ASL Flash will go with his main race, most certainly

Did I misunderstand this post?
Afaik, Flash said in post game interview that he’s not sure what race he is playing next season.
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
November 10 2020 05:39 GMT
#407
On November 09 2020 19:27 prosatan wrote:
I didn't want to make another thread and I will bump this one.

Original message (posted two days ago):

LAST RANDOM PLAY @ ASL! VS LARVA
처음이자 마지막으로 출전했던 랜덤 ASL!
이제는 3,4위전만 남았습니다!
과연 이영호 선수는 임홍규 선수를 상대로 3,4위전에서 이길 수 있을까요?

오늘 이영호 유튜브로 ASL경기를 봐야하는 이유!

#1 오늘은 중계가 불가하기에 ASL 공식방송 녹화본이 업로드 됩니다
박상현, 이승원, 임성춘이 중계하는 공식영상으로 만나보시죠!

#2 3:0으로 끝나도 3:1로 끝나도 스포일러 방지영상으로 경기결과 모르고 보기!
경기영상 갯수로 스포일로가 가능했던 점을 방지하고자 스포일러 방지영상을 업로드합니다!
p.s 스포일러 방지영상에 싫어요는 자제해주세요(ㅠ_ㅠ)

구독과 알람설정 후 기다려주세요!

ASL 시즌 10 3/4위전
2020.11.07 19:00(KST)
이영호 (R) VS 임홍규 (Z)
1경기 : 이클립스
2경기 : 플라즈마
3경기 : 폴리포이드
4경기 : 벤젠
5경기 : 옵티마이저

Source: https://www.youtube.com/c/FlaSh이영호/community

Google translate:

The first and last random ASL to compete!
Only 3rd and 4th place matches are left now!
Will Lee Young-ho be able to win the 3rd and 4th place against Lim Hong-gyu?

Why Lee Young-ho should watch ASL games on YouTube today!

#1 A record of ASL's official broadcast will be uploaded because it cannot be broadcast today.
Let's see the official video broadcast by Park Sang-hyun, Lee Seung-won, and Lim Seong-chun!

#2 Even if it ends in 3:0, even if it ends in 3:1, it is a spoiler prevention video and you do not know the match result!
We upload a spoiler prevention video to prevent spoiling from the number of game videos!
p.s Please refrain from dislike of spoiler prevention video (ㅠ_ㅠ)

Please wait after subscribing and setting the alarm!

ASL Season 10 3rd Place Match
2020.11.07 19:00(KST)
Youngho Lee (R) VS Hongkyu Lim (Z)
Match 1: Eclipse
Match 2: Plasma
Match 3: Polypoid
Match 4: Benzene
Match 5: Optimizer

I guess this is it! Next ASL Flash will go with his main race, most certainly

it sounds as though he's not sure if he'll go random next season, but he definitively says "this is the first and last Random-race ASL"
POGGERS
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10682 Posts
November 10 2020 05:51 GMT
#408
I think ever since FlaSh started playing Random, there has been an influx of Random players, or maybe that is just a placebo affect lol
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Xiberia
Profile Joined September 2007
Sweden634 Posts
November 10 2020 06:38 GMT
#409
This experiment was pretty entertaining to watch. I really hope random doesn't become a common thing though. It makes for a poor viewing experience when RNG produces gigantic advantages or straight out wins before the players have even scouted each other. As fun as it was this once, i would rather not invite this element of luck into professional BW.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8492 Posts
November 10 2020 07:30 GMT
#410
I would love to see Flash playing protoss!

To revolutionize PvZ like Bisu did
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
elKa-ThE-FeArEd
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden177 Posts
November 10 2020 07:43 GMT
#411
hope there will be more random players!
Finally some games thats out of the Meta
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6180 Posts
November 10 2020 09:22 GMT
#412
On November 10 2020 01:22 M2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2020 20:24 Piste wrote:
On November 09 2020 19:51 M2 wrote:
hope so, either main race or to take a challenge with another race, but random just doesnt produce fun and competitive games, its mostly about BO, scouting advantages and sloppy decisions and plays

p.s. additionally I always thought that they should have made random show what race it gave and they should have done it 15 years ago when BW became competitive. Otherwise its just for gimmicks.

Going third place in highest caliber tournament is just sloppy plays and sloppy decisions? Random is way harder than sticking with just one race. Why do you think that random player should give out the only advantage when the disadvantage of having to practice three times more match ups heavily outweights it? Every other random player have failed to achieve what Flash achieved and saying it's all about builds and gimmicks is definitely an understatement.

I actually did not mean Flash at all, but the whole dynamic when there is random. The sloppy decisions and plays can come on both sides, mostly affecting the non random player if we have to go into the details. Additionally, I dont think picking random should provide any kind of advantages especially the one that it provides right now - making the other player going sub optimal build orders and guessing for no competitive reasons. You wanna go random and make the other person prepare vs 3 different possible races - be my guest, but it should not stay hidden and rely on imbalanced distribution of critical information imo


p.s. Random being hidden was/is especially dumb for the ladder games where every vs random player was some kind of gimmick that brought nothing meaningful to the table.


Random is not the reason someone plays sloppy, the reason is lack of experience. Sure random can force the game out of meta builds, but sloppyness is the players own fault. Picking a single race to stick with gives you advantage, picking random should also give you advantage.
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