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dropthesky
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Canada285 Posts
May 21 2007 14:44 GMT
#41
your knowledge of the game is good, no one can question that, i wouldn't even say the voice is that bad, but constantly stumbling over your words can become irritating to the listener, I would sugest you focus on that, and you'll have a much more solid presentation, that and stop drinking water so loud.
It Is Not That Impossible Is Unachievable, But Simply That Most People Refuse To Believe Otherwise...
Aurious
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Canada1772 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-21 15:00:12
May 21 2007 14:53 GMT
#42
On May 21 2007 22:49 Manifesto7 wrote:
SuperiorWolf keep doing what you like to do, and dont listen to these retards in this thread. I made many many commentaries where I had NO idea what was going on strategically. (Really, they were so bad I cringe, I cant listen to them now). However, I had lots of fun, learned how to make a website, learned a bunch of cool programs, and got lots of positive feedback as well. Even to this day, like 4 years after I did RWA's, people still say thanks.

Nobody can control what their fucking voice sounds like, so people making fun of yours should eat dick.

PM me if you want to talk about what you are doing, because I feel today I have a much better idea about what makes good commentary and what doesn't.


I wasn't dissing his voice just saying that his voice goes really high pitched.

Even though getting excited sure helps it's possible to also change his voice maybe make it not as high pitched in his synthesiser
Ftrunkz
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Australia2474 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-21 15:19:19
May 21 2007 15:17 GMT
#43
you stumble your words.. ALOT. sorry but i think there are better commentators out there, no offence.

'AND BOXER IS FORCED TO RETREAT! urr.. i mean savior...

so that turned out very well for savior! umm, sorry i mean boxer'
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stim[mic]
Profile Joined November 2006
Australia93 Posts
May 21 2007 16:13 GMT
#44
Attempting to be constructive, things you could improve on:
1. Reduce your stumbling of words (elimination/reduction of umms, err) generally be more cohesive with your commentary.
2. Vary the commentary with different style/approaches (not just describing whats happening - also talk about your opinion of what sort of builds or style the players will be trying/doing in the game - you rarely varied your talk from the videos I watched.
3. Try to describe a situation/event in shortest but still descriptive way. Think you can learn a fair bit watching some of the commentators at GGL that commentate WC3 games. (different game but you can still see the approach in which they deliver the commentary in)
4. Work on your choice of words - this can help with number 3.
Proactive not reactive
CubEdIn
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Romania5359 Posts
May 21 2007 17:18 GMT
#45
Someone said this wasn't live. If you added the comentary after the actual game you can "cheat" a little bit. Watch it first and then say things like "It looks like savior will try to win using only muta, I don't know how boxer will respond to this, but pure goliath should be enough to win this. This would help a lot, and you wouldn't go on about lurkers and such.

Also, I don't know if hydra would have been the best option. Switching to hydras would require more hatcheries, and upgrades, and so on. I think savior could have had this if he would have managed to get cracklings. I've seen many games where pure ling+muta can top goliaths. But then again there's the map issue, and so on. Either way SaviOr knew what he was doing, better than most of us anyway.

Either way, I think your biggest mistake was confusing the player names. Don't do that. I mean if it's tvt or pvp or zvz it's understandable, but not when it's SaviOr and Boxer. They're giants in the sc world, so you can see why that will make a lot of people mock you.
Im not a n00b, I just play like one.
VioleTAK
Profile Joined July 2006
4409 Posts
May 21 2007 17:25 GMT
#46
On May 22 2007 02:18 CubEdIn wrote:
Either way, I think your biggest mistake was confusing the player names. Don't do that. I mean if it's tvt or pvp or zvz it's understandable, but not when it's SaviOr and Boxer. They're giants in the sc world, so you can see why that will make a lot of people mock you.

However the entire point of the thread by Equinox_kr, and you can tell it by the name "Another -_--Worthy Video", was infact to mock, and for that he chose one of the less good commentaries. If you watch his other commentaries you'll see some really excellent ones all trough-out the game.
He's getting better every time, and he can't do that without keep going. I think manifesto said it all.
Every fan of Starcraft is a fan of Lim Yo Hwan by association
InFiNitY[pG]
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Germany3474 Posts
May 21 2007 17:46 GMT
#47
On May 22 2007 02:18 CubEdIn wrote:
Someone said this wasn't live. If you added the comentary after the actual game you can "cheat" a little bit. Watch it first and then say things like "It looks like savior will try to win using only muta, I don't know how boxer will respond to this, but pure goliath should be enough to win this. This would help a lot, and you wouldn't go on about lurkers and such.

Also, I don't know if hydra would have been the best option. Switching to hydras would require more hatcheries, and upgrades, and so on. I think savior could have had this if he would have managed to get cracklings. I've seen many games where pure ling+muta can top goliaths. But then again there's the map issue, and so on. Either way SaviOr knew what he was doing, better than most of us anyway.

Either way, I think your biggest mistake was confusing the player names. Don't do that. I mean if it's tvt or pvp or zvz it's understandable, but not when it's SaviOr and Boxer. They're giants in the sc world, so you can see why that will make a lot of people mock you.


Imo commentating on games that you've already seen can only result in something worse than watching it for the first time. Sure you can make false assumptions, but at least they would be your honest opinion and as long as you can justify what you think with good arguments it's no problem that a particular player thought differently while playing the game. Do you think professional korean commentators get bashed by anyone when they assume DT rush once a p is building a citadel but it ends up being 3 gate speedzeals? Apparently Savior didn't know what he was doing, he just thought he did and obivously it didn't work, so he should've done something different. Imo, there are a few zerg players that can counter a good terran mech style very well, but most of the zergs even at a high level constantly make horrible decisions when playing vs mech.
"I just pressed stimpack, and somehow I won the battle" -Flash
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27177 Posts
May 21 2007 18:41 GMT
#48
I never ever watched a game before commentating, unless I was discussing a specific strategy featured in the replay. Watching a game beforehand takes all the energy out, and is fake, because you can just script yourself to sound good.
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dementus
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Singapore1151 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-22 01:36:53
May 21 2007 19:00 GMT
#49
kid's got a lot of stones for admitting to be the commentator for these vods, even when quite a few people are taking a dump on em. at least he's trying to contribute something positive to the community! commentating is a very difficult art(for want of a better word), as you require that right mix of frenzied spontaneity and insightful commentary so that you entertain, and educate your audience. i won't lie and say superiorwolf's attempt was top-notch stuff, but i appreciate that he put in the effort. hope he gets there someday! (insert generic "rome wasn't built in a day"-like quote here)
"I couldn't stop myself from having unreal macro and sick timing senses."
I-Emerge
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States435 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-21 19:19:40
May 21 2007 19:15 GMT
#50
On May 22 2007 01:13 stim[mic] wrote:
Attempting to be constructive, things you could improve on:
1. Reduce your stumbling of words (elimination/reduction of umms, err) generally be more cohesive with your commentary.
2. Vary the commentary with different style/approaches (not just describing whats happening - also talk about your opinion of what sort of builds or style the players will be trying/doing in the game - you rarely varied your talk from the videos I watched.
3. Try to describe a situation/event in shortest but still descriptive way. Think you can learn a fair bit watching some of the commentators at GGL that commentate WC3 games. (different game but you can still see the approach in which they deliver the commentary in)
4. Work on your choice of words - this can help with number 3.

I have watched a few of these in the past and I noticed then that the knowledge base of the game is lacking as well. I am only trying to add to the list of suggestion above. The fact that I have watched many of these vods shows I am open to the material. Let me give you an example of what I mean from this commentary.

At some point the commentator questions the morphing of evolution chambers due to the fact that there is no den to indicate ground units. A more informed commentator/player would know that at the point of late trasition into a ground based army, those units will need to already be upgraded to match the upgrade of Terran units. This is not to mention that Mutas increase map control, force the making of turrets which slows Terran down, and the size class of muta vs goli is fine given the appropriate ratio of muta made is obtained for each battle.

---I-Emerge

P.S. Good luck commentating!. I have not been doing it so I can only try to help.
A punch is just a punch. Then a punch becomes more than a punch. A punch becomes just a punch again.
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
May 21 2007 19:33 GMT
#51
Keep up the good work.
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
intelinside
Profile Joined February 2007
United States982 Posts
May 21 2007 20:39 GMT
#52
i think hes getting better. keep up the good work. do a lot more of these and you will def get better. than maybe more people will request your commenting
hihihihihi
intelinside
Profile Joined February 2007
United States982 Posts
May 21 2007 20:42 GMT
#53
we have to give him a lot of credit because on ONG or MBC, 3 people are doing this. he is just one person which makes a lot harder and makes him miss out on things and what not
hihihihihi
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51688 Posts
May 21 2007 20:51 GMT
#54
this reminds me of my rwa days ;O

maybe i should assemble a pro panel of me as a game-caster and day and nony as colour commentators.

then we can be english tl.net osl commentators.
Commentator
I-Emerge
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States435 Posts
May 21 2007 20:58 GMT
#55
On May 22 2007 05:51 MyCube wrote:
this reminds me of my rwa days ;O

maybe i should assemble a pro panel of me as a game-caster and day and nony as colour commentators.

then we can be english tl.net osl commentators.

This is a great idea but many great thoughts go unacted upon...

---I-Emerge

P.S. Just Do IT
A punch is just a punch. Then a punch becomes more than a punch. A punch becomes just a punch again.
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5757 Posts
May 21 2007 21:03 GMT
#56
Superior, you can make more VODS of me. I enjoy commentaries on my own games! =]
dropthesky
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Canada285 Posts
May 21 2007 21:33 GMT
#57
actually most zergs will just go hydra ling, and rape gols if there are not sufficient tanks.
It Is Not That Impossible Is Unachievable, But Simply That Most People Refuse To Believe Otherwise...
Tarte
Profile Joined October 2006
Canada933 Posts
May 21 2007 21:44 GMT
#58
I've heard this kid commenting games before, and it's a real pain in the ass.
L O V E Y O U
Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
May 21 2007 21:54 GMT
#59
--- Nuked ---
Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-05-21 22:52:24
May 21 2007 22:42 GMT
#60
On May 22 2007 02:25 VioleTAK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2007 02:18 CubEdIn wrote:
Either way, I think your biggest mistake was confusing the player names. Don't do that. I mean if it's tvt or pvp or zvz it's understandable, but not when it's SaviOr and Boxer. They're giants in the sc world, so you can see why that will make a lot of people mock you.

However the entire point of the thread by Equinox_kr, and you can tell it by the name "Another -_--Worthy Video", was infact to mock, and for that he chose one of the less good commentaries. If you watch his other commentaries you'll see some really excellent ones all trough-out the game.
He's getting better every time, and he can't do that without keep going. I think manifesto said it all.


Yeah, I actually went through some of the other VODs, and I was impressed.

Superiorwolf, I apologize again. I was thinking about making a RWA myself and I realized that I would have much less stuff to say, so again, I apologize.

edit: I also must note that you did a CRAPLOAD of commentaries.

Superiorwolf > Equinox_kr

edit2: Superiorwolf, may I make a suggestion that may help the entertainment of the game? You should yell. A lot more ^_^ I'm assuming you're Korean (maybe? ) so you can yell "JUH GUH LEENG", "REEE BUHH", "SWUHM SWUHM SWUHM" or the ever favorite "JEEEEE JEEEEEEEEEE"
^-^
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