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CoL_DarkstaR
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany649 Posts
March 15 2018 08:31 GMT
#81
While this is terrible news i'd love to see a game where both players try to throw.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51595 Posts
March 15 2018 08:36 GMT
#82
On March 15 2018 17:31 CoL_DarkstaR wrote:
While this is terrible news i'd love to see a game where both players try to throw.


actually happened

Commentator
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12039 Posts
March 15 2018 08:39 GMT
#83
On March 15 2018 16:28 PVJ wrote:
I was always proud thinking Toss players were able to stay away from match fixing. God damn, if this is true, Sky.

After seeing the VOD no wonder Stork was angry.

Is Sea suspected as well?


Nobody but Sky is SUSPECTED as of now. Please don't mention anyone else unless something is confirmed. It really is going to turn to hell in here.
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lemmata
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
468 Posts
March 15 2018 08:58 GMT
#84
OP updated with official ASL statement.
Wonk
Profile Joined March 2017
546 Posts
March 15 2018 09:14 GMT
#85
On March 15 2018 17:58 lemmata wrote:
OP updated with official ASL statement.


Going off the translation, it sounds like they're just waiting for the confirmation, but are quite certain. Yuck.

Considering that most of the offences occured last year, it's a shame it couldn't have all come out a week ago before the tournament started. Oh well, due process needs to take its course and they can't plan out criminal investigations on tournament schedules. At least it came out early in the tournament. I reckon that the community will move past this and enjoy the tournament. Starcraft always goes on.

thanks for keeping us updated on this lemmata.
iopq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1083 Posts
March 15 2018 09:25 GMT
#86
On March 15 2018 16:44 ShloobeR wrote:
If he was only suspected of it he would not have been arrested

Do you understand how criminal law works? Maybe in Korea it's different, but in the United States you get arrested when you're suspected of a crime, and you get convicted if there's no reasonable doubt of your guilt.
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3823 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-15 09:44:38
March 15 2018 09:39 GMT
#87
On March 15 2018 18:25 iopq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2018 16:44 ShloobeR wrote:
If he was only suspected of it he would not have been arrested

Do you understand how criminal law works? Maybe in Korea it's different, but in the United States you get arrested when you're suspected of a crime, and you get convicted if there's no reasonable doubt of your guilt.


Yes I did law and I am in Korea

They can bring him in and they can question him, and make an arrest on suspicions sure, but they wouldn't make a very public arrest without having something pretty certain. Perhaps I could have worded it better, he hasn't been slam-dunk convicted or anything but they certainly have more than just suspicions

Read the news articles and it seems pretty certain
: o )
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
March 15 2018 10:40 GMT
#88
Shocking and horrible. Just when Sky was becoming a strong protoss he shoots himself in the foot, no, his head. This is the first blow of this year to Starcraft, let's hope nothing worse happens.
sunbeams are never made like me...
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1506 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-15 10:49:28
March 15 2018 10:44 GMT
#89
Stork said he honestly got an offer to matchfix during his progaming days, when he was at his height from someone he personally knows by phone. Stork said the offer was larger than month's salary, but he immediately cut his friend off, and told his team of the situation

Sea got one through his facebook before during ASL, but he said he told him he will report to police if the matchfixer keeps contacting him. Sea also said these matchfixing brokers are people who are close, like someone you would know coming up to ask you for favor of "throwing a game".

Larva never got one at all.
RWLabs
Profile Joined March 2017
Korea (South)273 Posts
March 15 2018 10:48 GMT
#90
I can't say I'm surprised, but Sky man... I thought you were a creative Protoss that just couldn't make it on the big stage. Now we all know better, don't we?
Aldaris was the good guy of Brood War.
jinjin5000
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1506 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-15 11:14:02
March 15 2018 10:54 GMT
#91
SC2 matchfixing happened in these steps according to stork

1) First, matchfixers entice players with "not really matchfixing" bets such as game over by X minutes- so people do all in to end game at X minute regardless of if they lose or not

2) Second, brokers got hold of weakness (particiation in betting), makes progamers lose/throw game of them under threat of exposing them. Now brokers have control of progamers fully.

3) snowballs into full blown matchfixing system

elaborated here: https://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/84lm1n/stork_on_how_sc2_matchfixing_happened/
rotta
Profile Joined December 2011
5616 Posts
March 15 2018 11:14 GMT
#92
RIP 20 years of Protoss integrity

Hopefully not.
don't wall off against random
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19348 Posts
March 15 2018 11:54 GMT
#93
On March 15 2018 20:14 rotta wrote:
RIP 20 years of Protoss integrity

Hopefully not.

We can only hope Sky was a mole.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37084 Posts
March 15 2018 12:34 GMT
#94
Not the kind of news that I wanted to wake up to...
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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A.Alm
Profile Joined September 2012
Sweden536 Posts
March 15 2018 12:47 GMT
#95
Match fixing happens within every big sport. Just remember that it's a minor amount of games (< 0.1% prob) that are match fixed, and that ASL/Korea have very strict laws on this. This is not a big deal.
Deimos
Profile Joined June 2009
Mexico134 Posts
March 15 2018 12:50 GMT
#96
;( Not the kind of news that I wanted to wake up to X2
EndingLife
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1600 Posts
March 15 2018 13:06 GMT
#97
Why Sky!? One of my favorite tosses
Irukandji30
Profile Joined August 2016
15 Posts
March 15 2018 13:10 GMT
#98
I miss Life!!!!
jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6641 Posts
March 15 2018 13:18 GMT
#99
Shameful behaviour
The road to hell is paved with good intentions | aka Probert[PaiN] @ iccup / godlikeparagon @ twitch | my BW stream: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/jello_biafra
stilt
Profile Joined October 2012
France2755 Posts
March 15 2018 13:23 GMT
#100
This is sad.
Nothing to add...

Well actually, it reminds me Life, my favorite player sc2 ever :/
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