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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
March 08 2018 18:10 GMT
#41
I've been having a lot of issues logging-in to Battle.net recently. First I'm not automatically logged-in when Starcraft starts despite the Blizzard Bnet App showing me as logged-in. Then a log-in popup appears in Starcraft where I am able to login successfully, and later when selecting a gateway it says I'm not logged in T_T
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28665 Posts
March 08 2018 18:19 GMT
#42
preferred matchups I am negative towards. That is a way of inflating mmr score. I get it from a 'i want to practice' pov but having an accurate ladder is more important.
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Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
March 08 2018 18:39 GMT
#43
We need to expand the pool of largely lag free matches before we even consider the hope or possibility of race selection in match making. My available matches are already too over the place, and too tiny a population, if you add in the difficulty of race selection your just going to blow up an already unstable ladder.
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Splax
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden51 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-08 18:56:53
March 08 2018 18:56 GMT
#44
Maybe not the most critical but:
  • In observer mode, players gas sometimes drops down from several hundreds to exactly 0, just to go back up to the original value after a few seconds. Might affect minerals too, but I havent seen it. (probably the calculation of how much gas there is goes wrong when it is reduced from on certain value to another, and fixes itself when some more gas is mined)
  • Again in observer mode, if you remove some of the panels, you sometimes cannot click on anything on the bottom of the screen, the cursor image doesnt even change.

StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
March 08 2018 19:34 GMT
#45
On March 09 2018 03:19 Liquid`Drone wrote:
preferred matchups I am negative towards. That is a way of inflating mmr score. I get it from a 'i want to practice' pov but having an accurate ladder is more important.


I think this is misunderstood. The way I meant it is that you select match ups rather than race. So instead of playing terran, I could choose TvZ TvP and PvT.

I didn't mean, and I don't think others do, that you can set for example that you prefer TvP and are more likely to get TvP than your other matchups.

To clarify...
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
KameZerg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1762 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-08 19:50:24
March 08 2018 19:47 GMT
#46
Starcraft in my opinion is a very tournament suited game, so a great addition would be automated tournaments just like in wc3 or sc2. Such a feature would heighten the competitive drive in bnet and have more players participate. Both team matchmaking and automated tournaments would make the experience in battle.net much more fun and increase interest in playing.
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Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-08 19:55:36
March 08 2018 19:48 GMT
#47
I think being able to choose your match would actually bring in more players and Keep the player base stable since there is more enjoyment in game sessions. Yes, there is the problem of mmr not reflecting actual skill, but to fix this you can give less points for those who choose match ups. That way it is much harder for Match up choosers to go up in mmr. You could also make them lose extra points for losses as well. I think it could work and it's a simple fix.

Edit : and if people still don't like it Have Match Up choosers not able to earn mmr points. So it will be like unranked for them. People who also play match up choosers won't lose points either (but can gain if they win).
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
March 08 2018 19:52 GMT
#48
On March 08 2018 22:46 ninazerg wrote:
I think Blizzard should go really old school and have a ladder channel where people hang out and spam "Anyone game? me 1900 go go" and stuff like that. I think players should be able to set up ladder games on their own if they want to. Then they wouldn't have to play the same people over and over again. On iccup, if you had the game mode set up to "One on One", it'd be a ladder game. You could publicly have your game open and play anyone AND be able to race-pick if you want to.


I want this as well. I don't understand why they split us in 10 different channels. Why can't we all start in the same channel? Barely anyone talks in the current channels.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28665 Posts
March 08 2018 21:03 GMT
#49
On March 09 2018 04:34 StylishVODs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2018 03:19 Liquid`Drone wrote:
preferred matchups I am negative towards. That is a way of inflating mmr score. I get it from a 'i want to practice' pov but having an accurate ladder is more important.


I think this is misunderstood. The way I meant it is that you select match ups rather than race. So instead of playing terran, I could choose TvZ TvP and PvT.

I didn't mean, and I don't think others do, that you can set for example that you prefer TvP and are more likely to get TvP than your other matchups.

To clarify...


I did misunderstand then the 'let us practice' bit made me think you wanted to use ladder to say, improve tvz then you could in addition to selecting matchups rather than race, also select which one of those matchups you would prefer.

I'm a huuge proponent of selecting matchups.
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10153 Posts
March 08 2018 21:21 GMT
#50
On March 08 2018 18:25 Poixyois wrote:
The problem is not ideas for adding stuff. They can easily look at Warcraft 2/3 and Starcraft 2. The problem is that they have to make a 20 year old code work for global matchmaking while not changing anything while making everyone happy. This is what modern p2p connection in a modern game looks like. p2p sucks in every game. Unless you cherrypick your opponents. And fixing that takes alot of time. Therefore: Less time to implement other stuff

Show nested quote +
On March 08 2018 18:14 Cele wrote:
-racepicking option for ladder. Eriador wrote a few longer posts on the subject, so i'll leave details up tp him or some racepicker whi posts here.
- improve the SD graphics. On low end pc's like mine, the game laggs on HD a lot. I don't mind Sd graphics, but the ones in Sc:r look worse than original.

I picked Terran, you want to play Zerg, i pick Protoss, you want to play Terran and so on. How exactly is that supposed to work? How is practically race banning a good thing in matchmaking?

ahhhh I love the typical 0.01% chance hypothetical used to make an argument against race picking as a whole. it makes me remember that those who want to ban race picking dont actually have an argument.
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kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2037 Posts
March 08 2018 21:25 GMT
#51
On March 09 2018 03:56 Splax wrote:
Maybe not the most critical but:
  • In observer mode, players gas sometimes drops down from several hundreds to exactly 0, just to go back up to the original value after a few seconds. Might affect minerals too, but I havent seen it. (probably the calculation of how much gas there is goes wrong when it is reduced from on certain value to another, and fixes itself when some more gas is mined)
  • Again in observer mode, if you remove some of the panels, you sometimes cannot click on anything on the bottom of the screen, the cursor image doesnt even change.



Added to OP.
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FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
March 08 2018 21:32 GMT
#52
race picking used to be my top priority, but now that I know I can alt f4 pvp, relog and switch to zvp and usually get the same person again, its not as big of an issue. Although it really should be implemented still at some point.

The only issue I care about atm is being able to get games, and VS KOREANS without having to wait in the queue for 10minutes. At the moment my ladder experience is playing the same one foreigner who is near my MMR again and again and again until one of us decides to quit, and then I'm matched against a player 600 points below me. It is completely unacceptable that the entire foreign community is currently unable to play with 90% of the playerbase (koreans) without having a massive MMR gap to find maybe that one person you can get TR16 or better with. Foreigners are saying the ladder is dead!!! Just a couple patches ago I could get a game within 2 minutes vs a large variety of both korean and foreign opponents, now I cant. This needs to change ASAP, the latency cutoff is too strict, TR14 and TR12 are fine!!
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Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-08 21:46:49
March 08 2018 21:46 GMT
#53
Yeah...speaking for myself ive more or less stopped laddering, I do occasionally but...aint worth my time anymore. 100 mmr difference is supposed to give the player with more mmr a 60/40 advantage. The fact that i can get matched beyond a 100 mmr difference is a total waste of my time.
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StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-08 22:03:05
March 08 2018 22:01 GMT
#54
On March 09 2018 06:03 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2018 04:34 StylishVODs wrote:
On March 09 2018 03:19 Liquid`Drone wrote:
preferred matchups I am negative towards. That is a way of inflating mmr score. I get it from a 'i want to practice' pov but having an accurate ladder is more important.


I think this is misunderstood. The way I meant it is that you select match ups rather than race. So instead of playing terran, I could choose TvZ TvP and PvT.

I didn't mean, and I don't think others do, that you can set for example that you prefer TvP and are more likely to get TvP than your other matchups.

To clarify...


I did misunderstand then the 'let us practice' bit made me think you wanted to use ladder to say, improve tvz then you could in addition to selecting matchups rather than race, also select which one of those matchups you would prefer.

I'm a huuge proponent of selecting matchups.


Yeah it was poor wording on my part.

Practicing a specific match up over and over is for custom games I think...

As far as I know, Blizzard needs to get to know it's player base better. All foreign tournaments allow race picking. I'm not sure any argument against race picking holds. The only one is about less preparation time for your opponent, which isn't an issue in ranked play. The rule is probably made due to either ignorance or difficulty in the coding.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
dM-White
Profile Joined February 2007
Chile340 Posts
March 08 2018 22:02 GMT
#55
Cool topic kogeT, i'll start with the announced features (almost a year ago) and the lack of them (just a few)

https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/gallery/VNLBIT4WKUZS1506533973683.jpg

https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/gallery/883QDDLE5V3I1506533973791.jpg

The Leaderboard ann.
Missing:

- Obviously the ladder divisions
- Option to see the menu while you're in the server
- The Wallpaper !!! Yea, pls add it oo;
- At the second image, right click to add friend (yea pls add it)

The saddest part, Profiles:

The profiles never worked so good, missing ranked stats.
Wrong apm statics
No minimap preview in previous games (Recently played)

Still missing: "Replays" - "Seasons" - "Profile Settings" -

About this i really like the "Seasons" like they announced it why? Because you can see how many points you won/lost in the match history, image -> https://bnetcmsus-a.akamaihd.net/cms/gallery/5LOS40GHLDNY1506533986993.jpg wich is so good.

I added "Replays" because we have it under "History" BUT we dont have "View Match Status" and again the Minimap preview is broken.

Ok, i ended with the pending stuff, now bugs:

Stats: Yep the stats is so fucked up, i really dont care about it, but some ppl do.

My "overall record" is 472-260 but then when i type /stats i get this statics: ranked 131-123 custom: 250-185 and if i add custom + ranked is 381-308 im missing like 100 games O_O!?

screen: https://i.imgur.com/GvEWwe6.jpg

AND in the Profile selection screen i have ANOTHER different stats, this is funny hahaha

screen: https://i.imgur.com/aH7YpCP.jpg

** About this i think that the best choice for blizzard devs its just do a major reset in ladder, normal games, and all the accounts (if they merge the servers which is so needed)

In history you cant select ladder match history, its just broked up (no games)

Screen: https://i.imgur.com/fS3TR9Y.jpg

***** No getting portraits points after a win in a Ranked game, i dont remember anyother now....


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Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
March 08 2018 22:02 GMT
#56
like fyre dragon said it's kinda ridiculous. the koreans complain on paper about TR12 and TR14, and yet during the fish era i could play vs anyone on ladder and they would never leave the game even though they could do so without pointloss, so the lat was obviously playable. likewise, i can still 1v1 on the korean server through custom games without issue. i want them to go back to a channel based ladder like fish, personally. it just makes it so much easier to manage games given our small community. the language barrier really isn't a huge issue, most koreans speak a bit of english and most foreigners can read/write a bit of korean
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
EndingLife
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1594 Posts
March 08 2018 22:09 GMT
#57
The biggest issue for que times amongst foreigners in ladder games is the limited player base. There simply isn't enough foreigners for us to find a matchmaking game against each other in a timely basis. We all play at different times, from different parts of the world. They're going to have to make matchmaking global again, as it seems to be somewhat local at the moment. Foreigners only match against foreigners. Koreans only match against Koreans.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10671 Posts
March 08 2018 22:12 GMT
#58
On March 09 2018 07:09 EndingLife wrote:
The biggest issue for que times amongst foreigners in ladder games is the limited player base. There simply isn't enough foreigners for us to find a matchmaking game against each other in a timely basis. We all play at different times, from different parts of the world. They're going to have to make matchmaking global again, as it seems to be somewhat local at the moment. Foreigners only match against foreigners. Koreans only match against Koreans.

I match vs mainly Koreans and I think some other foreigners do as well.....
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Dazed.
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-08 22:27:36
March 08 2018 22:17 GMT
#59
I made a thread on the B.net forums about the match making issue, it was deleted within two minutes. Good shit. I'm feeling the love from blizzard. LOL

edit: hey basic functionality doesnt work and blizzard suppresses discussion openly but at least they released a fucking ugly ass new console ui, am i right? Fucking love green!!! GREEEN!!!!
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HaN-
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
France1919 Posts
March 08 2018 22:36 GMT
#60
Not sure if it's possible but it would be nice to have F1 working as another camera hotkey.
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