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nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
February 27 2018 09:21 GMT
#21
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OkStyX
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1199 Posts
February 27 2018 09:54 GMT
#22
Jaedong look after yourself man, the game isn't worth it. Do what you love but don't destroy yourself thats more devastating to the fans than their favorite Zerg losing games. We all know what you are capable of, anyone wishing you to play and further injure yourself isn't really a fan.
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OkStyX
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada1199 Posts
February 27 2018 09:57 GMT
#23
On February 27 2018 17:52 BLinD-RawR wrote:
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On February 27 2018 15:55 Letmelose wrote:
I am convinced that Jaedong is by far the most well disciplined individual I have seen within an e-Sports industry I have witnessed thus far.

Jaedong's mindset and professional demeanor has been praised by literally everybody in the scene:

NaDa: "Professional gamers need to have drive and passion, but they also need humility. Jaedong is very skilled, but has humility on top of that. He is at the apex, yet is respectful to everybody around him, regardless of their age. He deserves the title of a professional."

January (ex-manager of Samsung Khan): "I like his gaming style, and every time I have talked to him in person, I was impressed with his attitude and mindset. His gaming style and attitude is what I want from a player. He is hard working also."

Horang2: "I want to learn from Jaedong's mindset. The way in which he sustains his form through practice even though he is at the top is truly astonishing."

JangBi: "The best player is Jaedong. He is a gaming machine. How do you even practice that hard? It is mind boggling."

Lee Jae-Kyun (ex-manager of Woongjin Stars): "I believe that the player who has everything a manager could want from a gamer is Jaedong. It is not only his results he brings, there is nothing to fault about his mindset or the way in which he applies himself during practice. If I tell a player that he needs to play a hundred matches in order to win in a single televised match, most players would be exasperated with the work load. Jaedong would take it in strides. That is what differentiates him from the rest."

Jaedong (I'm roughly paraphrasing what he once said on stream): "I know for a fact that I was the hardest working player back in the days. It is not just about playing the most amount of games. It is about pushing yourself to your limits with each and every game."

Jaedong may not be the most talented gamer to have touched the game, but the way in which he applied himself during his professional years cannot be matched by anyone. Yes there were those who matched his discipline in very short bursts, but none that managed to sustain that level of rigor and devotion to a single craft for that long. It is something I haven't seen from any video gamer I have heard or seen thus far.


everyone should strive to be like jaedong in their lives.


Thats not a bad attitude or perception, be the best and try your hardest to be the best.
Team Overklocked Gaming! That man is the noblest creature may be inferred from the fact that no other creature has contested this claim. - G.C. Lichtenberg
Blue
Profile Joined July 2004
Norway359 Posts
February 27 2018 12:59 GMT
#24
JvJ <3
I must return to the time when I played with my own style, and when I determined the victory through strategies. And the strategies are a product of practicing more than anyone else. The key to success is to persevere through practice. Lim Yo-hwan
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
February 27 2018 15:09 GMT
#25
I just hope JD will be happy whatever he does, if he is the most happy while competing even if that means health issues so be it. He knows best what he can do or should do atm. If he only does it for the fans i agree though, he should rather look after himself.
Other than that, he is a true role model for people. Always trying his hardest to be the best, always incredibly humble and human. Definitely my favorite pro player of all time in any esports, no that's not enough. One of my absolute favorite competitors in any field <3

I don't think anyone can change the passing of the seasons (laughs). A lot of time has flowed by, and I need to think about my life going forward. Whatever I end up doing, I'll do it while remaining thankful that I remained in the minds of some fans. I'd be thankful if when people think of StarCraft, they remembered that there was once a player called Jaedong.


We definitely will no matter what happens now.
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ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
February 27 2018 16:21 GMT
#26
On February 27 2018 17:14 Jealous wrote:
" Tales of Jaedong balling his eyes out"

Bawling*

"heads and shoulders above his opponent"

Head and shoulders*

Great stuff as always! But, also as always, I wonder where the editor for BW news is.


He IS the editor.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10170 Posts
February 27 2018 16:41 GMT
#27
On February 28 2018 01:21 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 27 2018 17:14 Jealous wrote:
" Tales of Jaedong balling his eyes out"

Bawling*

"heads and shoulders above his opponent"

Head and shoulders*

Great stuff as always! But, also as always, I wonder where the editor for BW news is.


He IS the editor.

"will be stories that will be spoken off for ages."

Of*
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Jeremy Reimer
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada989 Posts
February 27 2018 16:54 GMT
#28
Great article. I am a lifelong, forever Jaedong fan. One nitpick I have with the writeup:


Considered one of the best zergs during the KeSPA era


This is incorrect. Jaedong is the best Zerg in Starcraft 1, of all time, bar none. This is without question, as no other Zerg came close to winning 3 OSLs and 2 MSLs and a WCS and various other major tournaments that defined the Starcraft 1 era. Certainly in Starcraft 2 he was a top Zerg, getting many second place finishes and a championship. When you combine the two games he is absolutely the best Zerg to ever play Starcraft.

Also an amazing, humble, and awesome human being.

Jaedong fighting!
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10170 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-27 18:02:21
February 27 2018 18:01 GMT
#29
On February 28 2018 01:54 Jeremy Reimer wrote:
Great article. I am a lifelong, forever Jaedong fan. One nitpick I have with the writeup:

Show nested quote +

Considered one of the best zergs during the KeSPA era


This is incorrect. Jaedong is the best Zerg in Starcraft 1, of all time, bar none. This is without question, as no other Zerg came close to winning 3 OSLs and 2 MSLs and a WCS and various other major tournaments that defined the Starcraft 1 era. Certainly in Starcraft 2 he was a top Zerg, getting many second place finishes and a championship. When you combine the two games he is absolutely the best Zerg to ever play Starcraft.

Also an amazing, humble, and awesome human being.

Jaedong fighting!


On February 28 2018 01:54 Jeremy Reimer wrote:
This is without question, as no other Zerg came close to winning 3 OSLs and 2 MSLs and a WCS and various other major tournaments that defined the Starcraft 1 era.


On February 28 2018 01:54 Jeremy Reimer wrote:
no other Zerg came close to winning 3 OSLs and 2 MSLs


(WCS is irrelevant)

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JungleTerrain
Profile Joined January 2012
Chile799 Posts
February 27 2018 18:02 GMT
#30
Love JD but really would love to see him take care of himself and settle down. I would be thrilled to see him get a gf, get married later and watch a stream of him with a baby or something lol. I think I just want to see the man happy.
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Jae Zedong
Profile Joined September 2016
407 Posts
February 27 2018 20:18 GMT
#31
Cool article, thanks for writing it.
Tyrant.
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1169 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-27 20:30:58
February 27 2018 20:26 GMT
#32
I really hope he wins something soon. Korean Air OSL S2 was heartbreaking to watch. From what I've read about his work ethic and approach towards the game throughout the years, he no doubt beats himself up over his own faults more than any rabid netizen ever could.

Guy deserves one man. It's almost like the fans (myself included) want to make up for that so badly. Nothing would make me happier than seeing him in another final with a repeat of the Batoo OSL vs Fantasy. Most memorable series that involved him winning for me.

Then he needs to probably take care of his health. I don't know if Flash has anymore wrist issues, but if it worked for him, hopefully Jaedong can get his sorted too. I'm not saying it shouldn't be a priority, but I know that Jaedong himself would want that ASL win above all else right now.
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SuperCyan
Profile Joined October 2017
Philippines67 Posts
February 27 2018 21:37 GMT
#33
On February 28 2018 03:02 JungleTerrain wrote:
Love JD but really would love to see him take care of himself and settle down. I would be thrilled to see him get a gf, get married later and watch a stream of him with a baby or something lol. I think I just want to see the man happy.



yeah I would like to see him like that just as Larva has his wife and his baby. Larva occasionally lets his wife and kid appear on the stream.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10675 Posts
February 27 2018 22:18 GMT
#34
Hell yea! Nice write up! Jaedong Fighting! I despise Zerg, but he is too handsome! haha
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CynicalDeath
Profile Joined January 2012
Italy3426 Posts
February 27 2018 22:47 GMT
#35
nice read, thanks!
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Shuffleblade
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden1903 Posts
February 27 2018 23:52 GMT
#36
I never followed BW but were a fan of Jaedong during his SC2 career, never knew he was playing while dealing with such serious health issues. This was a great read thanks!
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Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-28 07:24:31
February 28 2018 00:59 GMT
#37
On February 28 2018 01:54 Jeremy Reimer wrote:
Great article. I am a lifelong, forever Jaedong fan. One nitpick I have with the writeup:

Show nested quote +

Considered one of the best zergs during the KeSPA era


This is incorrect. Jaedong is the best Zerg in Starcraft 1, of all time, bar none. This is without question, as no other Zerg came close to winning 3 OSLs and 2 MSLs and a WCS and various other major tournaments that defined the Starcraft 1 era. Certainly in Starcraft 2 he was a top Zerg, getting many second place finishes and a championship. When you combine the two games he is absolutely the best Zerg to ever play Starcraft.

Also an amazing, humble, and awesome human being.

Jaedong fighting!


In terms of results earned as a professional, absolutely. However, some people put more emphasis on intangibles such as memorability during peak form and influence on the landscape of the professional scene. However, I do believe people sometimes underestimate how much more Jaedong has achieved compared to sAviOr.

sAviOr barely had half a year as the top performing ProLeague zerg, as opposed to over five years Jaedong spent as the best performing ProLeague zerg. It is like comparing David and Goliath, so I won't even compare the two anymore from this particular front since it is an insult to Jaedong's legacy created within the ProLeague. This is nothing like the circumstances involving BoxeR, and NaDa, whose peaks came before the creation of the ProLeague. sAviOr made his debut after the creation of the ProLeague, yet never had a season where he ended up as the best performing ProLeague player.

Even if we look at what made sAviOr special (his individual league prowess), and take away the entire career achievements of sAviOr from Jaedong's body of work, this is the breakdown of the top four finishes that would be left remaining:

1st place finishes: 1
2nd place finishes: 2
Round of four appearances: 2

This is the entire top four finishes of some of the greatest modern day zerg players of all-time:

EffOrt

1st place finishes: 1
2nd place finishes: 0
Round of four appearances: 0

ZerO

1st place finishes: 0
2nd place finishes: 1
Round of four appearances: 3

Even if we only look into what made sAviOr special and consider his numerous high placements he had in individual leagues, sAviOr needs the combined top four individual league placements of EffOrt and ZerO on top of his own, to somewhat match the top four individual league placements Jaedong achieved over the course of his career.

The only things sAviOr has over Jaedong are intangible matters like meta-game advancements, memorable runs in certain tournaments, lores created around his legend, and the aura he had around him when he was at the top. Professionals are judged on their results. Entertainers are judged on how much they inspire the people around them. One can argue sAviOr was probably the better entertainer (better narratives surrounding him) and performance artist (more inspiring to some) involving the game of Brood War, but there is no universe where someone can logically explain how sAviOr was comparable as a professional gamer (as in people with the profession of being judged for their competitive results) of Brood War.
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nanaoei
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
3358 Posts
February 28 2018 04:20 GMT
#38
kespa emergent -> July (also my favourite zerg stylistically)
and afterwards, it's jaedong who was the most driven player at this period of competition.

regardless, of whether or not he was the best, you guy still have the opportunity to watch his games.
that's what we should be remember as it is, truly, the last time we'll see them.
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FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10184 Posts
February 28 2018 07:06 GMT
#39
Where is tank to drop some truth bombs in here
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sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2550 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-02-28 08:06:54
February 28 2018 08:04 GMT
#40
I don't see how anyone could argue that Jaedong wasn't the best zerg. He had the longest peak as the best zerg during the era where BW what the most optimized, it's no contest. Yeah, he wasn't the best zerg when kespa and "pro" bw ended and nobody really knows how it would have evolved afterward, but as it is, no contest. He is even pulling decent runs since his comeback a year ago, proving he might've come back as the strongest zerg even after his weaker days in 2011-2012.
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