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juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
December 12 2017 16:15 GMT
#1321
Not tired, he looks old, fat and useless which he is.
Michael Probu
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5204 Posts
December 12 2017 18:11 GMT
#1322
Whoever designed that room is an idiot. Also fuk Savior.
FBH #1!
OrangeGarage
Profile Joined October 2015
Korea (South)319 Posts
December 12 2017 18:39 GMT
#1323
On December 09 2017 12:08 outscar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2017 02:20 RCCar wrote:
www.afreecano.com
Savior cannot play Starcraft BW
He cannot play any other major eSports games such as Starcraft2, Overwatch, League, and an afreeca official reached out to him warning him about it already.
Savior says he is returning because he is out of money. (he had previously made arrogant remarks on how he made a lot money being an uber for affluent people)
So all in all, sucks, but as long as he doesn't play BW and other KeSPA sanctioned games I don't see any reason to care about it.


What you mean by he cannot play it? I know he can't attend tournaments but streaming? What's the reason of comeback if he can't play his game. I think forbidding him playing and just stream BW is too much.

What do you mean what I mean by he cannot play it?
He is forbidden from playing the game on stream. Period.
Same goes with Overwatch and League of Legends. He cannot play it on stream.
Reason of his comeback? To make money off of any remaining fanboys he has.
I am drone! My dream is Hatchery!
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
December 12 2017 19:01 GMT
#1324
at this point in time am more irritated by "fuck sAviOr" comments than him streaming BW
Starlightsun
Profile Blog Joined June 2016
United States1405 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-12 19:53:51
December 12 2017 19:22 GMT
#1325
We'll never see if he could get good again or not, seeing as other players refuse to practice with him. So yeah kind of pointless for him to stream although I'm of the mind that he should be forgiven for the mistakes of his youth.
Fumapl
Profile Blog Joined September 2017
59 Posts
December 12 2017 19:56 GMT
#1326
Second and third most upvoted comment from Saviors post about returning:

사과할 필요없습니다. 이미 우리는 모두 당신을 용서했습니다. - No need to apologize, we all forgave you. - 204

무슨 사과를 또 해. 그만해라 이제 괜찮다 - What apology again. Stop it now, its fine. - 190

First most popular is just some chants ending with Ma God - 2017 up

Rest have mostly zero, or single digit number of upvotes
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
December 12 2017 20:03 GMT
#1327
Ma God indeed!
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-12 20:19:06
December 12 2017 20:18 GMT
#1328
On December 10 2017 02:50 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
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On December 10 2017 02:35 Alpha-NP- wrote:
I think the hatred of Savior is overblown. He's already been punished enough. Time to let it go.

how comes no one talks about the kespa corruption or the way they had kids under age working and exploding them? i sometimes ask myself if the matchfixing exploded cuz players didnt share it with kespa.anyway the only i like from savior is the bw side.what he did after is just a disgrace and im sure he knows it,sometimes people fall under the pressure of the moment and take horrible decisions instead of asking for help.


We're not always in agreement amigo, but i think you raise a valid question about the kespa 'business model' so to speak. I wouldn't say “thats the way it is, it's Kespa's fault“ but it's worth to discuss it how said businessmodel can enable it?
Broodwar for life!
jimminy_kriket
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada5525 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-12 21:28:36
December 12 2017 20:38 GMT
#1329
Did he only stream for 20 mins and not play any games or am i missing something? Is he streaming tomorrow? Any word on what games he will be playing?
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ppp87
Profile Joined May 2016
Laos251 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-12 20:50:15
December 12 2017 20:48 GMT
#1330
2017, people still saying "fuck savior"
I'll watch his stream for sure, no reason to not be featured on tl too.
Starlightsun
Profile Blog Joined June 2016
United States1405 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-12 20:53:13
December 12 2017 20:52 GMT
#1331
On December 13 2017 04:56 Fumapl wrote:
Second and third most upvoted comment from Saviors post about returning:

사과할 필요없습니다. 이미 우리는 모두 당신을 용서했습니다. - No need to apologize, we all forgave you. - 204

무슨 사과를 또 해. 그만해라 이제 괜찮다 - What apology again. Stop it now, its fine. - 190

First most popular is just some chants ending with Ma God - 2017 up

Rest have mostly zero, or single digit number of upvotes


That is heart warming.

On December 13 2017 05:48 ppp87 wrote:
2017, people still saying "fuck savior"
I'll watch his stream for sure, no reason to not be featured on tl too.


Same here.
Fumapl
Profile Blog Joined September 2017
59 Posts
December 12 2017 20:56 GMT
#1332
On December 13 2017 05:38 jimminy_kriket wrote:
Did he only stream for 20 mins and not play any games or am i missing something? Is he streaming tomorrow? Wny word on what games he will be playing?


It was an introductory apology stream, he talked, bowed to the ground, and apologized
Sk0
Profile Joined February 2008
Morocco85 Posts
December 12 2017 21:11 GMT
#1333
Since Sonic it's a new era for Brood War, he definitely deserves a second chance.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
December 12 2017 23:03 GMT
#1334
a kid made a mistake, that's new in this world... -.-
fish_radio
Profile Blog Joined March 2017
182 Posts
December 13 2017 03:11 GMT
#1335
foreigners have it misunderstood from koreans telling opinions in the news to them...

most koreans don't like him. but he does not matter. nobody cares.

life is too busy to care about savior.
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Broodwar4lyf
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
304 Posts
December 13 2017 03:53 GMT
#1336
If only csgo had the same kind of integrity and control in their games. Almost every game has some kind of weird throw lol
Good on you BW, keep that game clean as possible, you guys have no idea how bad it can get once gambling bets affect game integrity, in csgo anything below tier 1 is a coinflip for spreadbetting or even moneyline.
https://cinesnipe.com
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10257 Posts
December 13 2017 08:31 GMT
#1337
On December 10 2017 01:57 Letmelose wrote:
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On December 10 2017 01:07 iFU.pauline wrote:
On December 09 2017 17:07 Letmelose wrote:
sAviOr brings nothing of value to the current Brood War ecosystem.


You know what brings nothing of value to the fucking "ecosystem"? Your long ass redundant hateful post about a 9 years old topic. Now here is a way for you to bring value is to let it the fuck go with savior.


Let's see, the last time sAviOr was streaming he was losing games to Britney, one of the worst streamers to ever exist in terms of skill at the game.

Streamers who play Brood War need to have a good vibe with one another, and the viewers of these streamers need to have decent rapport with each other so that the streamers can concentrate on their games with needing to mediate conflict. How many streamers can you actually name that has zero beef with sAviOr and what he did, and has the ability to manage their fans in such a way that conflicts between those who support sAviOr, and those who hate sAviOr don't take over the stream?

Tell me, what does sAviOr bring to the current ecosystem that I'm overlooking? Nail biting Brood War games versus the likes of Britney? sAviOr awkwardly trying to make amends with equally awkward streamers who don't know whether to forgive him or scorn him? People fighting non-stop over whether sAviOr should be forgiven or not? What does he actually bring to the table aside from controversy and drama?

I personally would recommend the theater if these are the kind of spectacles you wish for. Do you enjoy this particular conversation you are having with me? Because this is the kind of stuff sAviOr will introduce to the scene, as well as his amazing ability to make Britney look like a competent Brood War player.

Brilliant post, summarized everything for me and should be sufficient for everyone who is just blindly hype over a name and a legacy and not the reality of the situation, REGARDLESS of whether you agree "fuck savior" is correct or if you are a fanboy.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13295 Posts
December 13 2017 09:38 GMT
#1338
I know what he did is unforgivable but the old Savior fan in me is still alive and well. I get that he can never come back but I still have respect for what he achieved, even if he threw it all away.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
CoL_DarkstaR
Profile Joined January 2009
Germany649 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-13 10:42:43
December 13 2017 10:42 GMT
#1339
On December 13 2017 18:38 RowdierBob wrote:
I know what he did is unforgivable but the old Savior fan in me is still alive and well. I get that he can never come back but I still have respect for what he achieved, even if he threw it all away.


I'd say it is very well forgivable. Point is: he has been punished multiple times, by a court as well as the public. Why not let him have the chance to pay for his wrongdoings by doing something constructive for BW this time? Commentating and organizing tournaments, giving lessons, general Q&As around the game including some tutorials. What he did was terrible, but in the end Blizzard and SC2's release, combined with the later hype of LoL killed BW, not sAviOr alone. It's not like he murdered someone, he made a big mistake, probably being very frustrated and desperate in his situation. Let's not forget the teamhouse environments were basically an invitation to do anything to earn some extra money if you're not the star of your team anymore. After all everything you do is playing 14h of SC:BW each day without getting anywhere.

All this cursing and isolating of sAviOr will do nothing but continue to ruin his life and make him turn into something even worse. I have the feeling all this guy wants is to get some love for once and play his favorite game. YES, i'm aware he does this to get money. You would too if you had no income and were socially isolated as he is.
mishimaBeef
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2259 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-12-13 11:09:42
December 13 2017 11:06 GMT
#1340
i think some people care about savior or else he wouldn't be banned from streaming brood war...

man, it's like brood war has been lifted up into the divine if a man can't after all this time and punishment stream the game
Dare to live the life you have dreamed for yourself. Go forward and make your dreams come true. - Ralph Waldo Emerson
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