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ChuuniMage
1 Post
Calculate the length of time that build orders take, to get timings Get AI to execute specific build orders against me, to practise against them in real time Progress on things like that either seem really old (defunct from at least 10 years ago), or difficult to get into (Brood War AI). Are there any resources available that let me do these things easily, or at least have guides for me to follow to do them? | ||
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LetaBot
Netherlands557 Posts
https://github.com/davechurchill/ualbertabot Although you might want to try SteamHammer, a newer version based on UAlbertaBot http://satirist.org/ai/starcraft/steamhammer/ | ||
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OJB247
2 Posts
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WGT-Baal
France3477 Posts
I found the AI bots for AI competition used to be good with chaoslauncher, but you had to launch 2 instances and play yourself, that was a while ago though. there are a few maps/trainers that display the build order on the screen if that helps. As to whether it helps improve, i am not sure. You do get to follow a build with prompt rather than the old school notepad way, but you could also try single player. In general since you are new I would strongly recommend you join community-based places such as the CPL (Coach Pupil League) | ||
pheer
5398 Posts
https://www.twitch.tv/sscait edit: thanks for explanation @Jealous, what they are using is OpenBW, not SC:R The SSCAIT tutorial page on their website mentions that BWAPI is not compatible for SC:R but doesn't mention how else to program bots, so I am unsure what they are using for SC:R https://sscaitournament.com/index.php?action=tutorial At the bottom of the tutorial page they have links to their discord and facebook pages, so maybe you can get some answers there, or ask them to update the tutorial to mention more about running the older BWAPI bots on SC:R -- perhaps there is a way now | ||
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Jealous
10316 Posts
On October 21 2022 22:12 pheer wrote: The twitch channel SSCAIT has SC:R bot games running 24/7 so there's definitely some way to program bots on SC:R https://www.twitch.tv/sscait The SSCAIT tutorial page on their website mentions that BWAPI is not compatible for SC:R but doesn't mention how else to program bots, so I am unsure what they are using for SC:R https://sscaitournament.com/index.php?action=tutorial At the bottom of the tutorial page they have links to their discord and facebook pages, so maybe you can get some answers there, or ask them to update the tutorial to mention more about running the older BWAPI bots on SC:R -- perhaps there is a way now Those are not games on SC:R. There are currently no bots on SC:R. What you're likely seeing is OpenBW, which just plays replays. There are no bots which "train you" the way you may be used to in games like Age of Empires. The closest thing to that was made for 1.16 is by a "developer" who is better left unnamed and has a very sketchy history, so I'm not going to recommend it. The reality is that the best way to learn the game is by playing it and following a build order yourself. Write it down on a Post-It or something. Keep it open in a different window. Etc. Play against the stock AI until you're comfortable navigating the buttons and hotkeys. Use Liquipedia to find some basic build order and go ham. | ||
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WGT-Baal
France3477 Posts
I would also recommend watching the day9 series let s learn starcraft (pick the lessons relevant to your race) so you at least underdtand what you want in each matchup and the usual steps to get there. | ||
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OJB247
2 Posts
Thanks for the info as well all...it is truly appreciated! | ||
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Mutaller
United States1051 Posts
On October 22 2022 02:06 OJB247 wrote: Ok thanks for the info guys, it seems I am going to have to learn this the hard way lol. is there a link where they show build orders and explain the reason for build orders? Because I have seen build orders and I understand the build orders are for the start of the battle and will have to adapt for the latter of the battle but like WGT-Baal said "it wouldn't explain the build or why you do a given step". Or would I have to figure that out myself through trial and error? Thanks for the info as well all...it is truly appreciated! Edit: links were broken It sounds like you should listen to Day[9]'s build orders podcasts https://tl.net/forum/bw-strategy/89581-day-podcasts-e14-tvz-on-heartbreak-ridge Under general game theory "Building Triggers and the Imaginary Player" & "A New Look at Build Orders" are podcasts for you I think. Best thing to do is ladder, and experiment with builds, after you experiment a bit, you might learn why pros do certain things. Their builds are refined for certain metas. | ||
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parkin
1089 Posts
I like to play vs 2 bots of the same race usually. It's pretty good. I think you can make your own build order scripts for it but I have not tried it. | ||
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MineraIs
United States846 Posts
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chrisolo
Germany2609 Posts
On October 25 2022 02:26 MineraIs wrote: Ask moataz, he makes the best Brood war ai bots! You know that he will list you as one of his supporters for ever now and post a screenshot of your message everywhere as proof that CoachAI is recognized by one of the major mappers of broodwarmaps.net? You will never lose this association anymore, like Qikz when he wrote something "positive" about it on the FBW Discord lmao. Congratz :D . | ||
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MineraIs
United States846 Posts
On October 25 2022 03:58 chrisolo wrote: You know that he will list you as one of his supporters for ever now and post a screenshot of your message everywhere as proof that CoachAI is recognized by one of the major mappers of broodwarmaps.net? You will never lose this association anymore, like Qikz when he wrote something "positive" about it on the FBW Discord lmao. Congratz :D . Can you sense the sarcasm? I think that tool knows how I feel about him every time stardefender bans him from our discord server. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12033 Posts
On October 25 2022 13:16 MineraIs wrote: Can you sense the sarcasm? I think that tool knows how I feel about him every time stardefender bans him from our discord server. dons Captain Tsubasa avatar with a moustache - have you heard about CoachAI | ||
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jchassoul
Costa Rica72 Posts
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Falling
Canada11509 Posts
On October 25 2022 21:34 Qikz wrote: dons Captain Tsubasa avatar with a moustache - have you heard about CoachAI | ||
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