On February 13 2017 21:03 ImbaTosS wrote: Unbelievable. Just look at what's happening, and how unthinkable it was only a few months ago.
Very excited for this if it takes place.
just one more OSL....come on.
A nice thought but don't hold your breath.
OGN is already doing 2-3 nights of LoL LCK and 2 nights of Overwatch APEX every week. They dont have the time or space to add another regular event to their busy calendar. An occasional one-night only BW event, sure. But another major tournament like an OSL? Not likely anytime soon.
Isn't the original producer for OSL still at that Chinese company? I was under the assumption that some of the production talent behind OSL had moved on to other companies, while others stayed on and got engrossed by LoL.
On February 13 2017 21:03 ImbaTosS wrote: Unbelievable. Just look at what's happening, and how unthinkable it was only a few months ago.
Very excited for this if it takes place.
just one more OSL....come on.
A nice thought but don't hold your breath.
OGN is already doing 2-3 nights of LoL LCK and 2 nights of Overwatch APEX every week. They dont have the time or space to add another regular event to their busy calendar. An occasional one-night only BW event, sure. But another major tournament like an OSL? Not likely anytime soon.
Isn't the original producer for OSL still at that Chinese company? I was under the assumption that some of the production talent behind OSL had moved on to other companies, while others stayed on and got engrossed by LoL.
It being popular doesnt dispute the initial point, where do they have time to hold such a tournament?
OGN and Blizzard aren't openly hostile anymore. OGN has broadcasted a KT showmatch, as well as a few seasons of Sonic/Sbenu Starcraft league. http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en/articles/wcs-2014-announced also mentioned they've has rights to host Starcraft 1 competitions.
No other game will ever be as popular as BW. Not LoL or whatever game OGN is broadcasting in their schedule. OGN would set aside any other game for Starcraft if they could without restraints. But those legal battles with Blizzard must have taken their toll on them and OGN doesn't want to go through that again despite now having rights.
I think Blizzard handled the transition from BW to Starcraft 2 very poorly.
LOL is way more popular in several metrics.
Also, I dont think that adds up. "It took its toll" from 6 years ago but they've broadcasted other BW content including several seasons of the SSL?
Hoping for GARIMTO, Reach, Nal_rA, or PuSan[S.G] for the protoss side.
YellOw was my old favorite... good to see him interested Despite him falling off a bit, he still was super super good. Would be cool to see July, ChoJJa, or OgOgO in there as well
I also was around for XellOs's time of dominance, so he definitely deserves it. TheMarine, Boxer, NaDa, iloveoov, etc would all be cool as well.
Maybe next time around we will see some more faces? Even if this is just a one-off as people have stated, it will be awesome!
On February 15 2017 01:22 Th1rdEye wrote: Hoping for GARIMTO, Reach, Nal_rA, or PuSan[S.G] for the protoss side.
YellOw was my old favorite... good to see him interested Despite him falling off a bit, he still was super super good. Would be cool to see July, ChoJJa, or OgOgO in there as well
I also was around for XellOs's time of dominance, so he definitely deserves it. TheMarine, Boxer, NaDa, iloveoov, etc would all be cool as well.
Maybe next time around we will see some more faces? Even if this is just a one-off as people have stated, it will be awesome!
I'm not sure I'll ever put July in the category of old progamers, for all I know he is just waiting for the OSLs to start again to grab another one when nobody expects him to do so.
On February 15 2017 01:22 Th1rdEye wrote: Hoping for GARIMTO, Reach, Nal_rA, or PuSan[S.G] for the protoss side.
YellOw was my old favorite... good to see him interested Despite him falling off a bit, he still was super super good. Would be cool to see July, ChoJJa, or OgOgO in there as well
I also was around for XellOs's time of dominance, so he definitely deserves it. TheMarine, Boxer, NaDa, iloveoov, etc would all be cool as well.
Maybe next time around we will see some more faces? Even if this is just a one-off as people have stated, it will be awesome!
I'm not sure I'll ever put July in the category of old progamers, for all I know he is just waiting for the OSLs to start again to grab another one when nobody expects him to do so.
Haha, I get what you're saying. I suppose he's still playing through all this into SC2 etc, so still in the mindset.
Still, I feel he really was a powerhouse back in the early to mid 2000's, and was dominating a lot of people. That's over 10 years ago now, so if he was 18, 19 years old he's now nearly 30. Kinda makes him an old progamer to me, but to each his own
On February 13 2017 21:03 ImbaTosS wrote: Unbelievable. Just look at what's happening, and how unthinkable it was only a few months ago.
Very excited for this if it takes place.
just one more OSL....come on.
A nice thought but don't hold your breath.
OGN is already doing 2-3 nights of LoL LCK and 2 nights of Overwatch APEX every week. They dont have the time or space to add another regular event to their busy calendar. An occasional one-night only BW event, sure. But another major tournament like an OSL? Not likely anytime soon.
Isn't the original producer for OSL still at that Chinese company? I was under the assumption that some of the production talent behind OSL had moved on to other companies, while others stayed on and got engrossed by LoL.
It being popular doesnt dispute the initial point, where do they have time to hold such a tournament?
OGN and Blizzard aren't openly hostile anymore. OGN has broadcasted a KT showmatch, as well as a few seasons of Sonic/Sbenu Starcraft league. http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en/articles/wcs-2014-announced also mentioned they've has rights to host Starcraft 1 competitions.
No other game will ever be as popular as BW. Not LoL or whatever game OGN is broadcasting in their schedule. OGN would set aside any other game for Starcraft if they could without restraints. But those legal battles with Blizzard must have taken their toll on them and OGN doesn't want to go through that again despite now having rights.
I think Blizzard handled the transition from BW to Starcraft 2 very poorly.
LOL is way more popular in several metrics.
Also, I dont think that adds up. "It took its toll" from 6 years ago but they've broadcasted other BW content including several seasons of the SSL?
LoL is just as popular bw proleague? No way. BW proleague was a national past time in Korea, you had parents playing Starcraft. It's not just the lawsuits but all the gaming networks in S.Korea, all the pro players, and sponsors were forced to switch to Starcraft 2 I believe. Yeah it took it's toll on OGN. But look how that turned out Flash, Jaedong, Bisu, and many former BW progamers all went back to BW eventually. Stupid for Blizzard to think that SC2 can be just like BW proleague, it couldn't for obvious reasons.
On February 13 2017 21:03 ImbaTosS wrote: Unbelievable. Just look at what's happening, and how unthinkable it was only a few months ago.
Very excited for this if it takes place.
just one more OSL....come on.
A nice thought but don't hold your breath.
OGN is already doing 2-3 nights of LoL LCK and 2 nights of Overwatch APEX every week. They dont have the time or space to add another regular event to their busy calendar. An occasional one-night only BW event, sure. But another major tournament like an OSL? Not likely anytime soon.
Isn't the original producer for OSL still at that Chinese company? I was under the assumption that some of the production talent behind OSL had moved on to other companies, while others stayed on and got engrossed by LoL.
Granted, if they're doing showmatches and stuff, I can't imagine its that far of a stretch...
On February 14 2017 22:35 Stax736 wrote:
It being popular doesnt dispute the initial point, where do they have time to hold such a tournament?
OGN and Blizzard aren't openly hostile anymore. OGN has broadcasted a KT showmatch, as well as a few seasons of Sonic/Sbenu Starcraft league. http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en/articles/wcs-2014-announced also mentioned they've has rights to host Starcraft 1 competitions.
No other game will ever be as popular as BW. Not LoL or whatever game OGN is broadcasting in their schedule. OGN would set aside any other game for Starcraft if they could without restraints. But those legal battles with Blizzard must have taken their toll on them and OGN doesn't want to go through that again despite now having rights.
I think Blizzard handled the transition from BW to Starcraft 2 very poorly.
LOL is way more popular in several metrics.
Also, I dont think that adds up. "It took its toll" from 6 years ago but they've broadcasted other BW content including several seasons of the SSL?
LoL is just as popular bw proleague? No way. BW proleague was a national past time in Korea, you had parents playing Starcraft. It's not just the lawsuits but all the gaming networks in S.Korea, all the pro players, and sponsors were forced to switch to Starcraft 2 I believe. Yeah it took it's toll on OGN. But look how that turned out Flash, Jaedong, Bisu, and many former BW progamers all went back to BW eventually. Stupid for Blizzard to think that SC2 can be just like BW proleague, it couldn't for obvious reasons.
I'm talking about the current year.And you still haven't disputed the initial point of discussion. They don't have time in their schedule when they're hosting other leagues most days of the week.
On February 13 2017 21:03 ImbaTosS wrote: Unbelievable. Just look at what's happening, and how unthinkable it was only a few months ago.
Very excited for this if it takes place.
just one more OSL....come on.
A nice thought but don't hold your breath.
OGN is already doing 2-3 nights of LoL LCK and 2 nights of Overwatch APEX every week. They dont have the time or space to add another regular event to their busy calendar. An occasional one-night only BW event, sure. But another major tournament like an OSL? Not likely anytime soon.
Isn't the original producer for OSL still at that Chinese company? I was under the assumption that some of the production talent behind OSL had moved on to other companies, while others stayed on and got engrossed by LoL.
Granted, if they're doing showmatches and stuff, I can't imagine its that far of a stretch...
On February 14 2017 22:35 Stax736 wrote:
It being popular doesnt dispute the initial point, where do they have time to hold such a tournament?
OGN and Blizzard aren't openly hostile anymore. OGN has broadcasted a KT showmatch, as well as a few seasons of Sonic/Sbenu Starcraft league. http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en/articles/wcs-2014-announced also mentioned they've has rights to host Starcraft 1 competitions.
No other game will ever be as popular as BW. Not LoL or whatever game OGN is broadcasting in their schedule. OGN would set aside any other game for Starcraft if they could without restraints. But those legal battles with Blizzard must have taken their toll on them and OGN doesn't want to go through that again despite now having rights.
I think Blizzard handled the transition from BW to Starcraft 2 very poorly.
LOL is way more popular in several metrics.
Also, I dont think that adds up. "It took its toll" from 6 years ago but they've broadcasted other BW content including several seasons of the SSL?
LoL is just as popular bw proleague? No way. BW proleague was a national past time in Korea, you had parents playing Starcraft. It's not just the lawsuits but all the gaming networks in S.Korea, all the pro players, and sponsors were forced to switch to Starcraft 2 I believe. Yeah it took it's toll on OGN. But look how that turned out Flash, Jaedong, Bisu, and many former BW progamers all went back to BW eventually. Stupid for Blizzard to think that SC2 can be just like BW proleague, it couldn't for obvious reasons.
I'm talking about the current year.And you still haven't disputed the initial point of discussion. They don't have time in their schedule when they're hosting other leagues most days of the week.
Well how do you know are you part of OGN? They're hosting other leagues because all the sponsors and players left broodwar back in 2012, but now bw is now making a resurgence seeing the failure of SC2. Neither MBC and OGN wanted to end bw proleague, more likely they were forced too. I don't know remember all the details regarding the lawsuits, I remember hearing about Blizzard suing OGN and MBC for not broadcasting SC2. But my belief is Blizzard was responsible for shutting down the professional bw scene in Korea.
My initial question to Chris_Havoc was to get more info on the legal issues regarding if there was any legal road blocks that prevented OGN from broadcasting another OSL
On February 13 2017 21:03 ImbaTosS wrote: Unbelievable. Just look at what's happening, and how unthinkable it was only a few months ago.
Very excited for this if it takes place.
just one more OSL....come on.
A nice thought but don't hold your breath.
OGN is already doing 2-3 nights of LoL LCK and 2 nights of Overwatch APEX every week. They dont have the time or space to add another regular event to their busy calendar. An occasional one-night only BW event, sure. But another major tournament like an OSL? Not likely anytime soon.
An LCK that could be pulled from them by Riot because they want to control the whole of the Korean scene (already part of the reason why SPOtv has part of the LCK cycle.) instead of relying on broadcasters. They can do a non-OSL BW event once a week if they want to without killing their scheduling, and if the LCK withdrawal does happen, they have the platform to push BW on TV again.
oov!? Holy crap. He's one of my favorite progamers of all time, haven't seen him play even showmatches since he became a coach and later retired. Xellos as well. That lineup is better than anything I've seen recently... I'm excited. Only missing now is the original OGN caster Um Jae-kyung aka 'Overlord'
EPT
Despite him falling off a bit, he still was super super good. Would be cool to see July, ChoJJa, or OgOgO in there as well 
