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letian
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prosatan
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THE BEST PLAYER JAEDONG RECEIVES 30000 BALLOONS FROM A FAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
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prosatan
Romania7423 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ALL KILL YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS | ||
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KaNaTTu
Finland20 Posts
I think he got like peak days, when he is the old JD and kills all. For example, 2x BO3 vs Flash.. He won 4 times in a row losing 2. To Flash.. Then he got those days when his arm hurts like hell and cant beat anyone. Just participate in next ASL and make sure u will be peaking the game days! | ||
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Sokokrey
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RedW4rr10r
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On February 14 2018 23:19 Sokokrey wrote: VOD's please you can check korhal.info.pl in a bit and look throug their vods. A good indicator to find sponsored or "important" games on JD's channel is then he always hides the chat and his webcam during these matches. So if you see JD vs. Flash (I think he's using his aka 205MISSION) in the lobby, you're good to go. Well.. unless someone's gonna post the VOD, then it doesn't matter :D but that's what I'm generally doing when I wanna chill and watch nice JD matches  | ||
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Sokokrey
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On February 15 2018 00:31 RedW4rr10r wrote: you can check korhal.info.pl in a bit and look throug their vods. A good indicator to find sponsored or "important" games on JD's channel is then he always hides the chat and his webcam during these matches. So if you see JD vs. Flash (I think he's using his aka 205MISSION) in the lobby, you're good to go. Well.. unless someone's gonna post the VOD, then it doesn't matter :D but that's what I'm generally doing when I wanna chill and watch nice JD matches Oh thanks! I was looking for something like this | ||
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LocoBolon
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and getting stomped Could BW be more awesome? | ||
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Cryoc
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LocoBolon
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On February 17 2018 05:06 Cryoc wrote: Accidentally cancelling a hatchery is not a strategy. Well well, I must admit that when I read ur comment I felt kinda dumb, but after rewatching I just couldn't see nothing of what you say, no cancelled hatchery and no accident. I may be wrong but this is what I see: -JD scouts a little earlier than usual (maybe cuz the timing is just right for the drone to find T in the 1st attempt and see what T is up to before choosing between hatch or pool/gas, wich is, in my honest opinion, exactly what happened) - JD did find God on the 1st attemp but as it is still unclear if He's goin barrack/expa or not JD sends a drone to his natural and get ready to go the starndard way (plan B in case things doesn't go exactly as he planned, genius right o.O? ). I think he definitely doesn't want to go 12 pool 12 gas before hatch vs barrack expansion into 5 barrack, that just doesn't seem right in the current meta. - Then look at him scouting specifically for that gas, nothing super crazy yet, I may do that too... And hey! he did find God on the first try and He is indeed goin for 11 barrack 12(or so)gas --------> JD then definitely ABORT the idea of goin 12 hatchery (not cancel, I don't see nothing beeing cancelled anywhere anytime  ) and do that unortodox thing.Anyway, thank you for your valuable contribution and maybe you watch it again and explain with more detail how and when do you see him accidentaly cancelling a hatchery. Bye!  | ||
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[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6498 Posts
On February 17 2018 07:45 LocoBolon wrote: Well well, I must admit that when I read ur comment I felt kinda dumb, but after rewatching I just couldn't see nothing of what you say, no cancelled hatchery and no accident. I may be wrong but this is what I see: -JD scouts a little earlier than usual (maybe cuz the timing is just right for the drone to find T in the 1st attempt and see what T is up to before choosing between hatch or pool/gas, wich is, in my honest opinion, exactly what happened) - JD did find God on the 1st attemp but as it is still unclear if He's goin barrack/expa or not JD sends a drone to his natural and get ready to go the starndard way (plan B in case things doesn't go exactly as he planned, genius right o.O? ). I think he definitely doesn't want to go 12 pool 12 gas before hatch vs barrack expansion into 5 barrack, that just doesn't seem right in the current meta. - Then look at him scouting specifically for that gas, nothing super crazy yet, I may do that too... And hey! he did find God on the first try and He is indeed goin for 11 barrack 12(or so)gas --------> JD then definitely ABORT the idea of goin 12 hatchery (not cancel, I don't see nothing beeing cancelled anywhere anytime ) and do that unortodox thing.Anyway, thank you for your valuable contribution and maybe you watch it again and explain with more detail how and when do you see him accidentaly cancelling a hatchery. Bye! jaedong in the min 23 from that video cancelled his hatchery by accident. | ||
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LocoBolon
Argentina243 Posts
On February 17 2018 07:59 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: jaedong in the min 23 from that video cancelled his hatchery by accident. Ohh I see now, I gotta take back all I said about nothing beeing canceled, there is a cancelled hatch and there is an accident but still that accident has nothing to do with what I was pointing out about JD build order. I talked about some unortodox opening JD is using to (imo) try find out some new weaknesses in the new and so strong 1-1-1 Flash is using vs Z lately. When this guy Cryoc so easly replied "there is not such thing you say, just an accidentally canceled hatch" (and this is when I got missleaded and why I did not find it) I just looked for it in the opening phase of the game cuz if not there that accident has nothing to do and adds 0 to what i'm trying to point out. Effectively there is a mistake and JD cancel his hatch at around min 4, and as I just said it has nothing to do with what I'm talking about, it adds 0, explain 0 and mean 0 so I still can't figure out why that was told to me as a reply. Anyone else see? mistake or not at min 4 JD is still goin for crazy opening (13 pool 12 gas 11 hatch), I think he is trying match muta timing with wraith so he doesn't have to make early hydra to defend and thus get a critical mass of muta as early as he can, regardeless of having a weak economy, to punish terran in that moment when he has 2 comand centers and just 1 wraith, 2 vult and 1 bunker to defend it. Maybe, if he can refine it, he can force Terran to go out of his way and make super early enginering and still lose many scv idk.... we just saw a failed attempt that didnt even got to get the first muta out. I think this 1-1-1 is a super precise and technical build wich aims, as oposed to the 5 barrack build, not to maximize strenght and get in a super strong position for the user but to exploint the many weaknesses of the zerg and put him in a very unconfortable position (early vult -> force sunk and runby may cost the game for Z; early wraith --> force hydra and may do a lot of dmg, potential cloak wraiths and potential vult drop keep Z in a very defensive state as they also may do ton of dmg and in case of vult drop it may end game right there; and then mm/tank/vess push and then mass vessel with mass m&m, those last two much earlier than z is used to: the build just seems to be a nightmare for Z when things go as they should for terran). Here's Larva vs Flash illustrating this. So maybe making the T go out of his way in the initial and fragile phase of the 1-1-1 is the answer to turn things back and make the Terran be in that unconfortable position. Earlier, that same day, when during the KCM race wars he played Flash and also tried some early crazy aggression in response to Flash 1-1-1, he went 2 hatch lair defended initial wraith with hydra as usual, then got mutas scourge to try snipe 1st vessel and kill vultures, regain control and have Terran in the dark, once terran vision of the map was denied and one would expect some muta harassment while getting 3rd JD tried to suprise Flash with a hydra bust. Bust failed as he faced 2 bunkers and irra on center hydra and game continued for a little longer JD proceded to lose with relative ease. After that JD saw a replay of the game to see what in the hell happened and how God knew about hydras and to apparently check for specific timings on the build Flash uses. For Jaedong surprise and my amusement, and as to be expected of someone who posses the All Seeing Eye hack in his blood, Flash made 2nd bunker with 0 knowledge of what was goin on to what JD said what I'm sure is korean for "The hell... he made the /&#$% bunker, how tha fuck do I beat this guy!?". A few moments later JD got into Flash's streaming chat and asked him to bo3, series in wich, the moment he saw Flash went for 1-1-1 build he tried the opening that started this conversation. From my point of view he is analizing things and trying to come up with new ideas to combat this new TvZ style, as one would expect of the greatest Zerg player that walked the earth, he now want to take the Zerg vs Terran meta game one step further... I want to share it because, now that we have FPVOD of the real players, I find these kind of meta game development process awesome and fun. ...oh and yes, he cancelled his hatchery at 3 minutes 32 seconds of the game, by accident. My bad, good call guys. | ||
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Cryoc
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prosatan
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GO GO GO TYRANT !!! | ||
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onlystar
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Jae Zedong
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kogeT
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JD watching the olympics, mb that is why. | ||
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KaNaTTu
Finland20 Posts
His form looks totally different than last summer! He looks like the old Jaedong... Really.. | ||
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