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David Farland -- fantasy author and BW designer??

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mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
August 17 2016 18:15 GMT
#1
Hi,

In the early 2000s I read an OK fantasy series called The Runelords, by a sci-fi turned fantasy author with the pseudonym David Farland. I subscribed to his writing newsletter a few years ago because it's good. It turns out he seems to have had a role in BW's design?

This week's newsletter is something that I thought this forum might find interesting:


I met with Les and showed him my first novel in the Runelords series, and I asked how I might be able to see about getting a big fantasy role-playing game made. He read the book, as did several of his employees, and decided to take a shot at it. But, he said, “I think that before I can sell this to a big company, you need to get a reputation as a videogame designer.” I asked how to go about that, and he said that perhaps there was a way that I could do it. He asked if I was any good at writing proposals. Well, while working as an editor at BYU, I had helped dozens of professors write proposals that had brought in millions of dollars in grants, and I think I’d learned how to do it pretty well.

So the next day or two I worked on a proposal for a game called Starcraft: Brood War. This wasn’t hard, since I was working with Alan Tew and some other talented game designers and technicians. Les explained that if the proposal was accepted, he would have me work as co-leader of the design team. The idea was simple. The first game in the StarCraft world was very good, but it wasn’t well balanced. So we proposed to fix it. We faxed it in to the folks at Blizzard, and they accepted it with neck-breaking speed. Now, being co-leader on the design team was a pretty easy job. All that I did was come up with ideas for the game.

For example, in my novel Brotherhood of the Wolf, I had gone into a lot of work designing my reavers. I had taken some of the inspiration for them from insects, including the ant lion. My reavers would dig themselves underground, then wait for prey to bumble along, at which point they would leap out from under the dirt and pounce. So just for kicks, I suggested a similar thing in the game for creatures that we called “Zerg lurkers.”

One of the problems that Starcraft had was that the humans died too easy. So Les suggested that we develop better armor or heavier guns, but those were the first two ideas that came to mind, so I suggested a third alternative: better medics.

At the time, nothing like the Zerg lurkers or medics had been used in such games, but each of my ideas created a lot of excitement in the industry, and when the game was released in the fall of 1998, it became a wild hit. For a time, I heard that it was listed as the #3 bestselling game of all time, and even today when I see newsclips about the world championship videogame competitions in China and Korea, where videogame players are virtual rockstars, they’re usually playing my game in the final competition.

So I began doing a little work with the company Saffire, writing proposals, designing, and scripting some videogames on the side. I have to say, though, that I made a mistake. When my fellow workers on Starcraft came and asked how I wanted my credits to read on Brood War, I said, “Ah, don’t give me any. I’m a novelist, not so much into games.” That was dumb. The whole purpose of this was to build a rep as a videogame designer, and I didn’t bother taking any credit. Always remember to take credit on your work. Particularly in Hollywood, others will try to steal it to you. In some industries, it’s as good as gold.


I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
August 17 2016 20:39 GMT
#2
hmm very interesting. Thanks for sharing
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
coolprogrammingstuff
Profile Joined December 2015
906 Posts
August 17 2016 23:13 GMT
#3
That's awesome! What a god.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17415 Posts
August 17 2016 23:30 GMT
#4
success has a thousand fathers...
failure is an orphan.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
whatusername
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1181 Posts
August 18 2016 06:49 GMT
#5
someone needs to email that guy all the rivo clips on youtube
im gay
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
August 19 2016 00:21 GMT
#6
I'd really love to go back to an era where it's like, "our game is broken. Quick, hire literally anyone to fix it. I don't care if they don't know how to turn on a computer."
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
August 19 2016 01:55 GMT
#7
Thanks for the insight. Always interesting to learn new things. SC1 and BW were balanced somewhat by accident, and this was all part of that.
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EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
August 19 2016 09:12 GMT
#8
Then again, this also a novelist claiming a story that he worked on a game where his credits do not appear.

>.>

<.<

Not that I doubt the validity of it, just pointing out that: just because he said it, doesn't make it fact :p. Pretty cool story.
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mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
August 19 2016 11:49 GMT
#9
On August 19 2016 18:12 SC2John wrote:
Then again, this also a novelist claiming a story that he worked on a game where his credits do not appear.

>.>

<.<

Not that I doubt the validity of it, just pointing out that: just because he said it, doesn't make it fact :p. Pretty cool story.


Yeah, I'd really like to hear what Blizzard people from that time would have to say about it!
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
Race Bannon
Profile Blog Joined February 2016
689 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-19 12:21:28
August 19 2016 11:58 GMT
#10
A person who calls himself Farland when his real name is Wolverton, loads more awesome imo, cannot be trusted to have played a major role in the conception of the cornerstone of this community, without further investigation.

I shall read some of his literary output, to form an opinion on the matter.

Edit: Oops, looks like your browser doesn't support the audio tag yet. You can download the file manually: https://ia800208.us.archive.org/7/items/03b30nov10DavidFarlandWritingBasicPartsOfStory/03b30nov10DavidFarlandWritingBasicPartsOfStory.ogg

As good a starting point as any. He's very relaxing to listen to.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=KqEaAHqYkig Original Message From Tumblewood: dear god
Ryzel
Profile Joined December 2012
United States547 Posts
August 19 2016 12:01 GMT
#11
I LOVE the Runelords series, that is really cool if true. I remember reading about the reavers and knowing lurkers are based off of something in that book is pretty sick.
Hakuna Matata B*tches
reminisce12
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia318 Posts
August 19 2016 13:05 GMT
#12
On August 19 2016 10:55 Crisium wrote:
Thanks for the insight. Always interesting to learn new things. SC1 and BW were balanced somewhat by accident, and this was all part of that.


I wouldnt call it balanced by accident. They had Rob Pardo as one of lead designer and balancer.

Just listen to hes podcast and insight when designing the game.

https://www.idlethumbs.net/designernotes/episodes/rob-pardo-part-1
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
Last Edited: 2022-01-18 21:49:39
January 18 2022 21:49 GMT
#13
Reviving this post to say goodbye to David Farland aka David Wolverton, who amongst his many achievements also designed some iconic Brood War units.

He passed away on January 14th, at the age of 64.

Cheers to you, David. Rest in peace.
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
Ryzel
Profile Joined December 2012
United States547 Posts
January 18 2022 22:10 GMT
#14
Booo, guess his series won’t ever reach a conclusion.
Hakuna Matata B*tches
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7012 Posts
January 18 2022 22:32 GMT
#15
RIP and thanks for the lurkers & medics
rtyrt7
Profile Joined August 2018
49 Posts
January 18 2022 23:13 GMT
#16
May he rest in peace! What a guy!
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