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Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States923 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-08 17:07:09
August 08 2016 14:37 GMT
#1
http://sports.news.naver.com/esports/news/read.nhn?oid=468&aid=0000179682

Someone translate this?

It seems blizzard decided to sponsor bw proleague again and is making sc2 players go back to bw and possibly do what bw had to do back in 2011

MOD EDIT:
On August 09 2016 01:52 Thouhastmail wrote:
SC1 rebirths with Remastered Version: Will Blizz become Esports tycoon again?

[SportsSeoul, Kim Jin-wook]

Starcraft: Brood War, a game which has long been popular among nationals over 18 years, will be remastered with HD and better graphics.

Officials say that Blizzard has been working on ‘Starcraft: remaster’, an upgraded version of Starcraft, and plans to release it late this year or early next year.

It is known that Starcraft: Remaster is targeted to strengthen graphics and battle.net services, while maintaining features and interactions of the game.

According to an official, “Blizzard once inquired me about upgrading Starcraft early this year. The most noticeable changes were graphics, but the core point was the structure of Battle.net.”

He also stated, “It looked just like classic battle.net. However, you should connect to the new one to play it.”

SC1 is still popular in the domestic market, but in the foreign market as well. It`s share is 3%, invitation matches attract many audiences and always got high viewer ratings.

However, Blizzard unsupported this game for over 5 years, excusing practical challenges. Releasing Starcraft: Remaster, It is expected that Blizzard is trying to upgrade this game while trying new business model.

Especially, it seems that Blizzard is preparing BW scene`s revival; officials said, “Blizzard strongly demands KeSPA to maintain SC2 teams. Which means, They`re planning to increase the clout of the esports scene by re-switching SC2 Proleague to SC: remaster Proleague. It seems that Blizzard is trying to reclaim the hegemony of esports from LOL and Dota 2.”

Besides, there`re various predictions for BW`s new business model. Since the game is almost free to play, it is not easy to make players pay for it. If the game is play-to-play, it would follow the a similar path as SC2.

With regard to this issue, another official stated that “SC1:remaster`s business model would rather be an battle. net upgrades. Since SC1 has many faithful fans, they would establish long-term plan by uniting Battle.net services.”


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Full of apocryphal sources. I`m sure that it`s a clickbait.

Life is just life
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
August 08 2016 14:40 GMT
#2
what are those screenshots, they look horrible T_T
Broodwar for life!
Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-08 15:33:28
August 08 2016 14:41 GMT
#3
"According to the relevants, Blizz is asking KeSPA to maintain SC2 teams; which means, Blizz is planning to re-converse SC2 Proleague to BW."

"Besides, there`re various expectations for BW`s new business model. Since the game is almost free to play, it is not easy to make players pay for it."

What is this, a clickbait or a fantasy novel?
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States923 Posts
August 08 2016 14:43 GMT
#4
On August 08 2016 23:40 Cele wrote:
what are those screenshots, they look horrible T_T


that's warcraft 3. Don't worry my friend.
Life is just life
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
August 08 2016 14:45 GMT
#5
On August 08 2016 23:43 Shinokuki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2016 23:40 Cele wrote:
what are those screenshots, they look horrible T_T


that's warcraft 3. Don't worry my friend.


yeah, figured it out in the meantime too. But why the heck does the naver page link them?
Broodwar for life!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
August 08 2016 14:48 GMT
#6
is this a troll article?

why are there images from the BW mod on WC3 on it.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Shinokuki
Profile Joined July 2013
United States923 Posts
August 08 2016 14:49 GMT
#7
On August 08 2016 23:48 BLinD-RawR wrote:
is this a troll article?

why are there images from the BW mod on WC3 on it.


if its in naver.com its not.
Life is just life
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-08 14:53:52
August 08 2016 14:51 GMT
#8
either way, I'm not entirely sure how I feel about this.

in regards to the afreeca scene and kespa teams.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
August 08 2016 15:03 GMT
#9
On August 08 2016 23:37 Shinokuki wrote:
http://sports.news.naver.com/esports/news/read.nhn?oid=468&aid=0000179682

Someone translate this?

It seems blizzard decided to sponsor bw proleague again and is making sc2 players go back to bw and possibly do what bw had to do back in 2011

That never happened.
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-08 15:19:53
August 08 2016 15:11 GMT
#10
I dunno the article doesn't seem legit to me. First, we have these weird WC3 MOD Screens and secondly, forcing KeSpa to switch to BW seems a bit strange to me. I would imagine Blizzard to aim for a parallel format for Sc2 and BW, forcing KeSpa to switch doesn't seem logical from their PoV.
Broodwar for life!
purakushi
Profile Joined August 2012
United States3301 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-08 15:29:33
August 08 2016 15:22 GMT
#11
love the screenshots lol

Don't know if this is true (but I do not doubt it), but from Gtranslate, it looks like it is talking about:

- star 1 HD late this year or early next year
- continue sc2 alongside star1 proleague
- not sure on business model of star1hd
- star1hd will have better gfx and battle.net support but will have the same feel as star1
- trying to cross-promote Blizzard games
T P Z sagi
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
August 08 2016 15:30 GMT
#12
On August 09 2016 00:22 purakushi wrote:
love the screenshots lol

Don't know if this is true, but from Gtranslate, it looks like it is talking about:

- star 1 HD late this year or early next year
- continue sc2 alongside star1 proleague
- not sure on business model of star1hd
- star1hd will have better gfx and battle.net support but will have the same feel as star1
- trying to cross-promote Blizzard games


better bnet support would mean bnet 2.0 integration, which already seemed likely to me.
Broodwar for life!
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19327 Posts
August 08 2016 15:31 GMT
#13
This is certainly an exciting month of news!
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
August 08 2016 15:33 GMT
#14
They should've used Project Revolution screenshots instead. That mod looked much more incredible, and it's too bad it never released in its entirety

It's good if they start supporting the resurgent BW scene. It's bad if they abandon SC2 to do that, but that's very unlikely. Still, it would be nice to see KT smash SKT T1 in BW again.
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Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
August 08 2016 15:39 GMT
#15
WHAT?!!!
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
August 08 2016 15:42 GMT
#16
fucking hell, can somebody translate the whole article? And please tell me this isn't just click bait
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
August 08 2016 15:45 GMT
#17
CLASSICYELLOW!!!! SAVE US!!!!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
August 08 2016 15:49 GMT
#18
[image loading]
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-08 16:02:15
August 08 2016 15:59 GMT
#19
I think Crank went through this article on stream, only caught the end though. The VOD might be interesting.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
August 08 2016 16:00 GMT
#20
On August 09 2016 00:30 Cele wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2016 00:22 purakushi wrote:
love the screenshots lol

Don't know if this is true, but from Gtranslate, it looks like it is talking about:

- star 1 HD late this year or early next year
- continue sc2 alongside star1 proleague
- not sure on business model of star1hd
- star1hd will have better gfx and battle.net support but will have the same feel as star1
- trying to cross-promote Blizzard games


better bnet support would mean bnet 2.0 integration, which already seemed likely to me.

It wouldn't be too bad if that just meant integration into the B.net launcher. Cross-game chat with other B.net friends is useful. BW would get a higher visibility when its among the client's 6 other games (maybe 7 if they ever integrate WC3). BW tournaments, events, and content could be cross-promoted into the pages for other games.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
August 08 2016 16:00 GMT
#21
On August 09 2016 00:59 Musicus wrote:
I think Crank went throught this article on stream, only caught the end though. The VOD might be interesting.


VOD link! NOW!!!
Charoisaur
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany16062 Posts
August 08 2016 16:00 GMT
#22
forcing players to go back to bw would be terrible regardless which game you prefer.
Many of the coolest moments in sc2 happen due to worker harassment
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-08 16:02:47
August 08 2016 16:02 GMT
#23
On August 09 2016 01:00 Wrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2016 00:59 Musicus wrote:
I think Crank went throught this article on stream, only caught the end though. The VOD might be interesting.


VOD link! NOW!!!


Well he is still streaming so there won't be a VOD until he is done.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Sonny-
Profile Joined July 2016
47 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-08 16:05:19
August 08 2016 16:04 GMT
#24
On August 09 2016 00:31 BisuDagger wrote:
This is certainly an exciting month of news!

I was about to say the same! I recently got into BroodWar again (was surprised it's still this big) and all this news in the last few weeks.. Damn! So excited
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
August 08 2016 16:07 GMT
#25
uh so

do i get a job out of this?
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
August 08 2016 16:13 GMT
#26
On August 09 2016 01:00 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2016 00:30 Cele wrote:
On August 09 2016 00:22 purakushi wrote:
love the screenshots lol

Don't know if this is true, but from Gtranslate, it looks like it is talking about:

- star 1 HD late this year or early next year
- continue sc2 alongside star1 proleague
- not sure on business model of star1hd
- star1hd will have better gfx and battle.net support but will have the same feel as star1
- trying to cross-promote Blizzard games


better bnet support would mean bnet 2.0 integration, which already seemed likely to me.

It wouldn't be too bad if that just meant integration into the B.net launcher. Cross-game chat with other B.net friends is useful. BW would get a higher visibility when its among the client's 6 other games (maybe 7 if they ever integrate WC3). BW tournaments, events, and content could be cross-promoted into the pages for other games.


if Blizzard does a good job running the ladder, yes. Currently ladder/tournaments are held on private servers like ICCUp and FISH. If these cease to exist (if BW HD is that succesful for hardcore players) Blizzard needs to provide an alternative. And on that regard im not sure if they will do a good job integrating community efforts like Tours etc, they haven't been in the past for sure.

bnet 2.0 is not the most accessible tool for social interaction either, even though it now has (weird) channels

It's just: this community has been self dependant for a very long time. We run our own servers, we script our own bugfixes, we run our own tours. We look to the KeSpa when it comes to balancing the game (via maps), not Blizzard.

In my personal estimation, Blizzard has been out of touch with this game for more than a decade and i simply doubt they lack the expertise and knowledge of the game and it's scene to make it right.
Broodwar for life!
Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-08 16:50:57
August 08 2016 16:19 GMT
#27
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
Cele
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Germany4016 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-08 16:25:29
August 08 2016 16:24 GMT
#28
oh my god, it's really bnet 2.0 integration. Lord help us ^^

On August 09 2016 01:07 amazingxkcd wrote:
uh so

do i get a job out of this?


no, u don't
Broodwar for life!
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19327 Posts
August 08 2016 16:25 GMT
#29
On August 09 2016 01:07 amazingxkcd wrote:
uh so

do i get a job out of this?

People should tweet at blizzard to hire me for that SC1 eSports management position. + Show Spoiler +
It's been wife endorsed.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
August 08 2016 16:26 GMT
#30
I dunno why on earth TL omits my replies when it becomes long - darn!
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-08 16:29:22
August 08 2016 16:29 GMT
#31
On August 09 2016 01:24 Cele wrote:
oh my god, it's really bnet 2.0 integration. Lord help us ^^

Show nested quote +
On August 09 2016 01:07 amazingxkcd wrote:
uh so

do i get a job out of this?


no, u don't


i'll take a long term casting gig over in Korea. got nothing to lose atm
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
August 08 2016 16:29 GMT
#32
They might be discussing a separate BW proleague but it makes no sense why they would want to intentionally kill off the SC2 one. Most of the top SC2 pros would not be top BW pros anyways.
Nazara
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
United Kingdom235 Posts
August 08 2016 16:34 GMT
#33
This sounds to good to be true for Brood War fans. Is the source credible?
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
August 08 2016 16:35 GMT
#34
Here's what I think Blizzard will unveil:
  • A remastered version of Brood War, running on a modified version of SC2's engine.
  • Minor quality of life improvements, such as giving Lurkers the ability to Hold Position by default, and automining in the mix.
  • Other mechanics such as mining, 12 unit selection limit and unit pathing designed to replicate Brood War.
  • Tournament illegal exploits such as allied mines and interceptor crushing patched out of the game.
  • The game is available for a small purchase fee, with cosmetic microtransactions.
  • Remastered versions of the SC and SCBW campaigns.
  • A return to the SCBW/WC3 custom games system.
  • BW Remastered announced as a WCS 2017 title.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
August 08 2016 16:35 GMT
#35
Pretty much anyone who's been on a team since before the switch should do fine.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50753 Posts
August 08 2016 16:37 GMT
#36
On August 09 2016 01:29 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2016 01:24 Cele wrote:
oh my god, it's really bnet 2.0 integration. Lord help us ^^

On August 09 2016 01:07 amazingxkcd wrote:
uh so

do i get a job out of this?


no, u don't


i'll take a long term casting gig over in Korea. got nothing to lose atm


KCM could literally vouch for you.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Thouhastmail
Profile Joined March 2015
Korea (North)876 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-08 16:56:45
August 08 2016 16:52 GMT
#37
SC1 rebirths with Remastered Version: Will Blizz become Esports tycoon again?

[SportsSeoul, Kim Jin-wook]

Starcraft: Brood War, a game which has long been popular among nationals over 18 years, will be remastered with HD and better graphics.

Officials say that Blizzard has been working on ‘Starcraft: remaster’, an upgraded version of Starcraft, and plans to release it late this year or early next year.

It is known that Starcraft: Remaster is targeted to strengthen graphics and battle.net services, while maintaining features and interactions of the game.

According to an official, “Blizzard once inquired me about upgrading Starcraft early this year. The most noticeable changes were graphics, but the core point was the structure of Battle.net.”

He also stated, “It looked just like classic battle.net. However, you should connect to the new one to play it.”

SC1 is still popular in the domestic market, but in the foreign market as well. It`s share is 3%, invitation matches attract many audiences and always got high viewer ratings.

However, Blizzard unsupported this game for over 5 years, excusing practical challenges. Releasing Starcraft: Remaster, It is expected that Blizzard is trying to upgrade this game while trying new business model.

Especially, it seems that Blizzard is preparing BW scene`s revival; officials said, “Blizzard strongly demands KeSPA to maintain SC2 teams. Which means, They`re planning to increase the clout of the esports scene by re-switching SC2 Proleague to SC: remaster Proleague. It seems that Blizzard is trying to reclaim the hegemony of esports from LOL and Dota 2.”

Besides, there`re various predictions for BW`s new business model. Since the game is almost free to play, it is not easy to make players pay for it. If the game is play-to-play, it would follow the a similar path as SC2.

With regard to this issue, another official stated that “SC1:remaster`s business model would rather be an battle. net upgrades. Since SC1 has many faithful fans, they would establish long-term plan by uniting Battle.net services.”


------------------------------------

Full of apocryphal sources. I`m sure that it`s a clickbait.
"Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people we personally dislike"
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
August 08 2016 16:54 GMT
#38
Man blizzard is really friendly to the community. They even informed shieldbattery about their plans so that they don't need to program it.
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1169 Posts
August 08 2016 16:54 GMT
#39
Forcing a reverse transition? Wayyy too outrageous for me. It's possible, but this is Blizzard we're talking about here o.o
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
August 08 2016 16:58 GMT
#40
On August 09 2016 01:54 duke91 wrote:
Man blizzard is really friendly to the community. They even informed shieldbattery about their plans so that they don't need to program it.

You know that shield battery has been under development for years right?
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
xuanzue
Profile Joined October 2010
Colombia1747 Posts
August 08 2016 17:02 GMT
#41
BW in sc2 engine and f2p...

I could be interested.
Dominions 4: "Thrones of Ascension".
duke91
Profile Joined April 2014
Germany1458 Posts
August 08 2016 17:03 GMT
#42
So the shieldbattery project will be in vain if BW will be bnet2.0 integrated?
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)STYLE START SBENU( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
August 08 2016 17:03 GMT
#43
Take this with a grain of salt for now.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
GoShox
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1843 Posts
August 08 2016 17:05 GMT
#44
On August 09 2016 01:52 Thouhastmail wrote:
Full of apocryphal sources. I`m sure that it`s a clickbait.


Thanks for the translation. I kinda feel like this should be added to the OP to avoid people getting their hopes up over nothing...
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19327 Posts
August 08 2016 17:08 GMT
#45
On August 09 2016 02:05 GoShox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2016 01:52 Thouhastmail wrote:
Full of apocryphal sources. I`m sure that it`s a clickbait.


Thanks for the translation. I kinda feel like this should be added to the OP to avoid people getting their hopes up over nothing...

Added!

On August 09 2016 02:03 duke91 wrote:
So the shieldbattery project will be in vain if BW will be bnet2.0 integrated?

Most definitely not!
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
August 08 2016 17:08 GMT
#46
^
thanks for adding it,

well.... rip
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11479 Posts
August 08 2016 17:09 GMT
#47
Full of apocryphal sources. I`m sure that it`s a clickbait.

I'm going to lock this for now until the reliability of the source can be confirmed.
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mar a Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
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