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On August 02 2016 03:27 lestye wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2016 02:49 BisuDagger wrote:On August 02 2016 02:19 lestye wrote:On August 01 2016 22:25 Ruff_kz wrote:On August 01 2016 11:34 classicyellow83 wrote:
There are only around 30 Partner BJs in the entire Afreeca. Having 2 in BW is amazing. Would have been 3 but Bisu declined the offer. Who is the second Partner BJ in BW? NaDa. On August 02 2016 00:49 Dental Floss wrote:
Those are insane numbers. I hope they invest some of it in tournaments, pro houses and other ventures that continue to sustain broodwar. Has there been any news on that front? Having the ASL be a prize pool of $16K is awesome, but compared to those numbers I would hope a big BW tournament would have 5x that amount. That was my take on it as well. Does Afreeca do anything special for the ASL tournaments they run? Like it'd make sense in this day and age to have some type of crowd funding based on balloons sold during a competitive broadcast. The problem with crowd funding is all the rich donors only want to give money to their favorite players. They are unwilling to put it in a prize pool when they want to just give it directly to their favorite. We would need to find incentives for the big money donors to get behind crowd funding. I would think that the pros would be able to sway them to donate something. I wouldn't expect a league to get 30k a month, but I think if we got them to throw the competitions a bone, that'd be legit. But I do suppose you have a point, there's a reason why some streamers are so goddam rich, meanwhile the Kim Carry league isn't as big as people wished it would be. (Although.... I think if we saw some streamers act against their own self interest, they could encourage more donors for these type of events.... I'd imagine it would act like a full tip jar type of effect)
I think pros can do that. Some saved up a lot of money. Sea said he has saved up 1.3 million so far. Koreans speculate that for flash its almost 4 million. they got lot of money.
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There seems to be a much more mature philosophy of careful saving in Korea than the US, so I'm not surprised. In the interviews you'd always hear that the pros were sending their winnings to their parents to save/invest.
I think BW can pull in a new generation. It isn't a normal video game where all that matters is graphics. It's something different. Like...nobody thinks that fancier board games like Settlers of Catan is going to replace chess.
The critical piece might be a new patch by Blizz for modern compatibility.
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They make more in a day than I make in a month.
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What does BJ stand for? I am thinking of something inappropriate but I am sure there is a normal definition you guys are using.
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broadcasting jockey. Also, brood war is still played, last I heard it's consistently in the top 10 most played games in pc bangs.
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As much as these guys make, it is still much smaller than what Terror makes. It's still like the SC2 foreign scene, where making an ass of yourself is more lucrative than being one of the best players around.
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On August 02 2016 07:28 andrewlt wrote:
As much as these guys make, it is still much smaller than what Terror makes. It's still like the SC2 foreign scene, where making an ass of yourself is more lucrative than being one of the best players around.
It's like everywhere. The shit entertainment earns the biggest amount of money.
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Is there any reason Starcraft 2 pros in Korea don't seem to stream on Afreeca (or at least never featured on TL and I don't speak Korean)? I know it isn't as popular as Brood War has always been but surprising at least a few players like Maru or Zest could potentially draw in viewers.
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On August 02 2016 08:21 WinterStarcraft wrote:
Is there any reason Starcraft 2 pros in Korea don't seem to stream on Afreeca (or at least never featured on TL and I don't speak Korean)? I know it isn't as popular as Brood War has always been but surprising at least a few players like Maru or Zest could potentially draw in viewers.
I believe it is not kespa sanctioned and team sponsors dont allow it.
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kespa teams (in theory) have an exclusivity contract with azubu but sc2 teams aren't obliged to stream games so they dont
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I guess there are no viewers who would want to watch Maru or Zest tbh.
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On August 02 2016 08:52 GTR wrote:
kespa teams (in theory) have an exclusivity contract with azubu but sc2 teams aren't obliged to stream games so they dont
Interesting, thanks
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What's going on with the SC2 scene in Korea anyway? Are young ppl playing it?
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On August 02 2016 08:21 WinterStarcraft wrote:
Is there any reason Starcraft 2 pros in Korea don't seem to stream on Afreeca (or at least never featured on TL and I don't speak Korean)? I know it isn't as popular as Brood War has always been but surprising at least a few players like Maru or Zest could potentially draw in viewers.
Not to be rude or anything but the fact that one of sc2's best players RAIN had to stream bw to get at least 100 viewers for his stream says it all. There seems to be no sc2 scene in afreeca.
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On August 02 2016 09:59 Dante08 wrote:
What's going on with the SC2 scene in Korea anyway? Are young ppl playing it?
Checked http://www.gametrics.com/ last week and Starcraft2 had like 1% from all the "RTS" games (LoL, WC3, Broodwar etc) LoL had over 80%. Wish i knew Korean and could link the chart.
I guess those are PC-bang numbers.
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On August 02 2016 16:28 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2016 09:59 Dante08 wrote:
What's going on with the SC2 scene in Korea anyway? Are young ppl playing it? Checked http://www.gametrics.com/ last week and Starcraft2 had like 1% from all the "RTS" games (LoL, WC3, Broodwar etc) LoL had over 80%. Wish i knew Korean and could link the chart. I guess those are PC-bang numbers.
The filters aren't working for me right now but the overall rankings are..
Overwatch
League of Legends
FIFA Online 3
Sudden Attack
Maple Story
Starcraft (1)
Dungeon Fighter
Lineage
Blade and Soul
Aion
That seems about right for when I visit a PC Bang too.
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On August 02 2016 16:59 Draconicfire wrote:Show nested quote +On August 02 2016 16:28 Grettin wrote:On August 02 2016 09:59 Dante08 wrote:
What's going on with the SC2 scene in Korea anyway? Are young ppl playing it? Checked http://www.gametrics.com/ last week and Starcraft2 had like 1% from all the "RTS" games (LoL, WC3, Broodwar etc) LoL had over 80%. Wish i knew Korean and could link the chart. I guess those are PC-bang numbers. The filters aren't working for me right now but the overall rankings are.. Overwatch League of Legends FIFA Online 3 Sudden Attack Maple Story Starcraft (1) Dungeon Fighter Lineage Blade and Soul Aion That seems about right for when I visit a PC Bang too.
Yep! Actually i found the chart i was talking about. http://www.gametrics.com/news/News02_View.aspx?seqid=28079
Genre Rank RTS
League of Legends (84,13%)
Starcraft (9,06%)
Warcraft 3 (3,54%)
Starcraft 2 (1,73%)
Heroes of the Storm (0,62%)
Dota 2 (0,52%)
Chaos Online (0,39%)
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And that is only PC bang. I guess people tend to play BW at home due to preference for mouse/keyboard is much more important. Most people can pirate/have alot of copies of BW, while SC2 you need to invest 100$ etc so people tend to go to the PC bang to play SC2.
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On August 01 2016 19:47 Wrath wrote:
I'm here making $1000 a month.
Maybe I should just kill myself...
Most people I know would chop their nuts off for 1.2k a month.
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anything over 5000 dollars/month is nuts... Not bad.
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