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[Request] Watch replay files in player perspective

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ZONIC71
Profile Joined May 2016
6 Posts
May 04 2016 09:51 GMT
#1
I know this used to be possible however it has been 3+ years since I last did it. please explain how to do this.
Thank you
kogeT
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland2036 Posts
May 04 2016 09:58 GMT
#2
Wow, you're right, there has been an application like this many years ago. I completely forgot about it.

Btw. why would you need to do that if there are so many FPVODs available now?
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51426 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-04 10:13:46
May 04 2016 10:13 GMT
#3
it was penguinplug and replays had to be recorded with the plugin for it to work
edit: don't even think penguinplug is supported in 1.16.1
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ZONIC71
Profile Joined May 2016
6 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-04 10:17:07
May 04 2016 10:15 GMT
#4
this is true lots of FPVOD's been watching lots of bisu ; however I also want to analyse my own crappy replays switching between free look and player perspective. I think I may have actually found it but its probably crashing due to windows 10 being my new OS yay for upgrades. Pretty sure its HotkeySelector plugin on ChaosLauncher. When plugin is loaded and attempting to select replay on windows 10 its crashing before it loads my available replays.
ZONIC71
Profile Joined May 2016
6 Posts
May 04 2016 10:28 GMT
#5
oh wait damn your right GTR it was penguinplug and it did have to be recorded with it turned on. cant seem to find any updated info on it so its probably dead.
DarkNetHunter
Profile Joined October 2012
1224 Posts
May 04 2016 12:00 GMT
#6
Hotkeyselector just lets you see hotkeys of anyone in replay rather than just the person whose slot you landed on while hosting =)

GTR has it right that it was from penguinplug. The replay had to be recorded as an FPReplay as well, and if I'm not mistaken it could also not capture all actions (such as using F-Keys and some other stuff?). It definitely isn't supported any longer unfortunately.

You're most likely better off screen capturing yourself and then watching those fpvods and comparing them to replay.
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Me_ToKa
Profile Joined September 2009
Bulgaria309 Posts
May 04 2016 13:46 GMT
#7
Penguinplug was available in PGTour. I don't remember it was on iCCup. We are talking about something like 2005-6 and 1.13.f. And yeee go watch some FPVods Check http://korhal.info.pl (for vods) or http://afreecabw.appspot.com/ (for live)
SolaR-
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States2685 Posts
May 04 2016 16:41 GMT
#8
I really miss this feature. Helped me improve alot back in the day..
ArmadA[NaS]
Profile Joined January 2014
United States346 Posts
May 04 2016 17:38 GMT
#9
A few years ago some people had success with a program called "BW Tv". It looks like the links are broken, but maybe you can find some more info about it:
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
May 04 2016 18:21 GMT
#10
I used to like it, but you are talking WGT level of old tech.

The one people mentioned in this thread actually added information to the replay file and made it larger. There was another even older one which would work on any replay, but basically it just sort of centered the screen on whatever was being clicked or something like that.

I watched a zillion replays of a good WGT Zerg back when it was a thing, since WGT mandated uploading replays of every game. I think it's kind of sad no one after WGT thought it was worth it to get replays for every game, but it did add overhead on the player side. It would like to see it automatically handled by the server some day.

There might be a plugin around that still simulates it in current launchers. There's was one launcher which seemed to have everything, including drawing paths on the screen from units to the destination that had been clicked on that was really fun to watch. But it also had viruses and adware iirc which was really lame. It was called AdvLauncher I think.
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Paybacktime
Profile Joined March 2016
7 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-04 18:31:59
May 04 2016 18:26 GMT
#11
I can confirm this was WGTour times technology.

I used to be a collaborator for WGTour examining replays to spot and ban map hackers all over the world . I am the guy behind hundreds of accounts banned for maphacking.

Penguinplug + replays had to be recorded with that pre-installed.

I loved that job. It felt so good and so easy to find them.

I remember concluding NaDa was using maphack in many games too outside of WGTour, probably for practice purposes.
Nobody believed me at the time of course, but after viewing thousands of maphacker games I am 99.99% sure of this.
ZONIC71
Profile Joined May 2016
6 Posts
May 04 2016 19:42 GMT
#12
wow so what I thought was 3 years ago was actually more like ten years!! good old WGT days. Oh cool hey #Paybacktime can you unban my wgtour account thanks bro
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10117 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-04 21:55:31
May 04 2016 21:54 GMT
#13
On May 05 2016 03:21 Chef wrote:
I used to like it, but you are talking WGT level of old tech.

The one people mentioned in this thread actually added information to the replay file and made it larger. There was another even older one which would work on any replay, but basically it just sort of centered the screen on whatever was being clicked or something like that.

I watched a zillion replays of a good WGT Zerg back when it was a thing, since WGT mandated uploading replays of every game. I think it's kind of sad no one after WGT thought it was worth it to get replays for every game, but it did add overhead on the player side. It would like to see it automatically handled by the server some day.

There might be a plugin around that still simulates it in current launchers. There's was one launcher which seemed to have everything, including drawing paths on the screen from units to the destination that had been clicked on that was really fun to watch. But it also had viruses and adware iirc which was really lame. It was called AdvLauncher I think.

If I'm not mistaken, Penguin Plug also centered on the selection and not the actual action. So, if a player at start was spamming Nexus -> Mining Probes -> Scouting Probe over and over while not sending any commands, it would still jump screen.

I wasn't aware Adv had those features, that's very interesting.

I think the reason why this isn't being pursued now is because it is more convenient and popular to record your play through a program like OBS or Camtasia or what not. I find the final product to be more user-friendly in the sense that you can rewind and skip freely. Most computers released in the last 5 years at least should be able to handle screen recording and Brood War without streaming afaik. That's the path I'd recommend.
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Paybacktime
Profile Joined March 2016
7 Posts
May 07 2016 01:06 GMT
#14
On May 05 2016 06:54 Jealous wrote:
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On May 05 2016 03:21 Chef wrote:
I used to like it, but you are talking WGT level of old tech.

The one people mentioned in this thread actually added information to the replay file and made it larger. There was another even older one which would work on any replay, but basically it just sort of centered the screen on whatever was being clicked or something like that.

I watched a zillion replays of a good WGT Zerg back when it was a thing, since WGT mandated uploading replays of every game. I think it's kind of sad no one after WGT thought it was worth it to get replays for every game, but it did add overhead on the player side. It would like to see it automatically handled by the server some day.

There might be a plugin around that still simulates it in current launchers. There's was one launcher which seemed to have everything, including drawing paths on the screen from units to the destination that had been clicked on that was really fun to watch. But it also had viruses and adware iirc which was really lame. It was called AdvLauncher I think.

If I'm not mistaken, Penguin Plug also centered on the selection and not the actual action. So, if a player at start was spamming Nexus -> Mining Probes -> Scouting Probe over and over while not sending any commands, it would still jump screen.

I wasn't aware Adv had those features, that's very interesting.

I think the reason why this isn't being pursued now is because it is more convenient and popular to record your play through a program like OBS or Camtasia or what not. I find the final product to be more user-friendly in the sense that you can rewind and skip freely. Most computers released in the last 5 years at least should be able to handle screen recording and Brood War without streaming afaik. That's the path I'd recommend.


Yeah penguinplug used to work based on selection.

Another common "false positive" was when you loose your last units at a battle you may have vision of enemy for few seconds before you see only fog so penguinplug failed to recognize those seconds that granted vision by unit loss.


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