KeSPA Top 30 March 2007

On February 28 2007 21:26 Pressure wrote:
1.GARIMTO MagicNs 9.999. 0 -

On February 28 2007 21:22 0z wrote:
16. PuSan[S.G] MBC HERO 732.8 5
5 places up ?

On February 28 2007 21:26 Pressure wrote:
1.GARIMTO MagicNs 9.999. 0 -

On February 28 2007 23:20 Evilmonkey. wrote:
Give me a goddamn break, how the fuck is JJu at number 5? Has he done anything recently?!

On February 28 2007 20:22 Wasabi wrote:

Yellow[ArnC] - there's hope, and there's wonder... ah screw it. Looks like Hong Jin Ho ain't really up to it anymore just like most old dogs.

On March 01 2007 02:19 gulii wrote:
God damn it. Havent been online for ages. Has Savior won anything or something? Thats just sick.

On March 01 2007 02:24 Taiche wrote:

Er yeah, almost everything
Look at the Featured Threads to know more.

On March 01 2007 06:16 alffla wrote:


wtfwtfwt where did this come from

On March 01 2007 06:18 oneofthem wrote:
haha yellow looks like me almost

On March 01 2007 06:39 alffla wrote:


pic

On March 01 2007 01:28 We Are Here wrote:
im sure he knows

and who are the four kings? nada , boxer, yellow and reach?

On March 01 2007 03:25 Hot_Bid wrote:
well the list isnt surprising at all if you look at recent results

and after the MSL final, Savior and Bisu are going to have even more points

does anyone know if the SuperFights or Shinhan Masters are included in this?

On March 01 2007 10:02 Leath wrote:
Highest KeSPA score ever achieved... Is SaviOr gonna beat this record? o.O

December 2002:

1 SlayerSBoxeR 2398.0
2 YellOw 1871.0
3 H.O.T Forever 1618.0
4 TheMarine 1605.0
5 ChRh 1275.0
6 NaDa 1161.0
7 TaewoO 1076.0
8 JinNam 1055.0
9 Oddysay 1015.0
10 ChoJJa 997.0

On March 01 2007 10:02 Leath wrote:
Highest KeSPA score ever achieved... Is SaviOr gonna beat this record? o.O

December 2002:

1 SlayerSBoxeR 2398.0
2 YellOw 1871.0
3 H.O.T Forever 1618.0
4 TheMarine 1605.0
5 ChRh 1275.0
6 NaDa 1161.0
7 TaewoO 1076.0
8 JinNam 1055.0
9 Oddysay 1015.0
10 ChoJJa 997.0

On March 01 2007 13:01 ManaBlue wrote:
Holy crap Bisu flew up there. That's kinda crazy IMO.

Is that the most places gained in one kespa recalculation? Someone check on that.

On March 01 2007 12:08 il0seonpurpose wrote:
lmao, hahahaha


it was funny how u said saviors almost taking half of eur...i mean progaming.


he meant europe for ppl who dont get it cuz ppl call him hitler, hahahahahahaha good one

On March 01 2007 14:14 CloseandBan wrote:
Does everyone here watch the vods or reps of these players that are top 10? How do i watch they're games?

On February 28 2007 20:22 Wasabi wrote:
Yellow[ArnC] - there's hope, and there's wonder... ah screw it. Looks like Hong Jin Ho ain't really up to it anymore just like most old dogs.

On February 28 2007 21:26 Pressure wrote:
1.GARIMTO MagicNs 9.999. 0 -

On February 28 2007 20:22 Wasabi wrote:
Top 30
1. sAviOr[gm] CJ Entus 2,107.0 -

2. NaDa Pantech EX 1,662.0 -

3. IriS[gm] CJ Entus 1,096.3 1

4. Bisu[Shield] MBC HERO 995.8 10

5. [GsP]JJu KHAN 931.0 2

6. Hwasin STX SouL 877.5 9

7. GooDFriend KTF Magicians 868.8 1

8. AnyTime..[gm] Lecaf OZ 839.0 3

9. Casy OGN Sparkyz 830.8 2

10. Nal_rA KTF Magicians 819.1 10

11. Light[Alive] MBC HERO 808.8 5

12. midas[gm] SK Telecom T1 791.8 5

13. YellOw[ArnC] OGN Sparkyz 779.0 3

14. s.s.m~[SiLvEr] Pantech EX 776.6 2

15. Zergman Samsung KHAN 766.8 4

16. PuSan[S.G] MBC HERO 732.8 5

17. Much[gm] CJ Entus 732.5 8

18. GoRush SK Telecom T1 707.8 9

19. ChoJJa KTF Magicians 685.0 11

20. Jaedong Lecaf OZ 660.5 2

21. Julyzerg MBC HERO 632.8 8

22. GGPlay Hanbitsoft Stars 628.5 4

23. Sea[Shield] MBC HERO 627.0 6

24. XellOs[yG] CJ Entus 605.8 -

25. Free[gm] Hanbitsoft Stars 588.0 3

26. firebathero Samsung KHAN 543.8 NEW

27. iloveoov SK Telecom T1 536.5 4

28. Bifrost OGN Sparkyz 512.1 NEW

29. Canata SK Telecom T1 461.8 NEW

30. Inter.CalmZ STX SouL 446.1 4

Race balance
Terran - 13
Zerg - 11
Protoss - 6 (ALL Protoss players went up in the ranks. Oops, forgot about Mr. Fall Anytime.)

Team count
MBC HERO - 5
CJ Entus - 4
SK Telecom - 4
KTF Magicians - 3
Samsung KHAN - 3
OGN Sparkyz - 3
Pantech EX - 2
STX SouL - 2
Lecaf OZ - 2
Hanbitsoft Stars - 2

Player opinions
Savior - You're taking almost half of Eur... I mean progaming now.
Nada - A loss in a Starleague finals (he's never lost before in an OSL final) is hard to swallow.

IriS - Nice, one trick pony! If you keep up that killer TvZ you showed in the finals, you can keep that rank for a long while.

Bisu - One of Protoss' last hopes.
Nal_rA - Oh god welcome back to top 10.
Midas[gm] - Next time, don't pick Savior too early in the groups.
Julyzerg - He looked promising in Proleague but that seemed to die down. We'll see.

Yellow[ArnC] - there's hope, and there's wonder... ah screw it. Looks like Hong Jin Ho ain't really up to it anymore just like most old dogs.

Firebathero - Honestly, I don't think he's that special unlike UpMagic (who's surprisingly still not on the list). Overall a good and solid Terran deserving of a spot, however.

Bifrost - Bad luck that he met the best player in the world, Matler.

Canata - Finally. I think I've never seen this guy on the list before.

On March 01 2007 19:44 Essex wrote:
even though iloveoov's going down in ranking, i still believe hes the best player
i somehow never lose hope in him ,, i just know that he'll be #1 again soon or later

On March 02 2007 13:47 [Carlodajin] wrote:

Indeed.
Why isnt this featured?. KeSPA is reallyyy important in South Korea.
AnyTime[gm] is still on KeSPA Top 10!!!.

On March 01 2007 19:34 Wasabi wrote:


haha I didn't know what you were talking about the MBC thing :s

On March 02 2007 14:18 thedeadhaji wrote:
is kespea actually "that" important in korea? I mean you look at the "world rankings" in tennis/golf, and you dont really care because the wins and performances matter so much more than what "rank" a player has.

On March 02 2007 14:37 thedeadhaji wrote:
?? so? Just because it's listed doesnt mean it's necessarily that important.

how often do you hear a player say "oh man, my main goal is to get back in top 10 kespa" or "dude, #1 kespa rank is my career goal" when asked "what are your goals for this year?" etc.

Instead it's always "wins" "getting into leagues" etc that's valued by the players in the interviews. Very similar in other sports as well.

Is there even an instance where in sports, the players actually care deeply about their world rank? Because I certainly cant think of any. Your rank doesnt determine how good you are, so why would they care? :O

On March 02 2007 14:48 thedeadhaji wrote:
is that beacuse the world rank determines who gets to play the champions?
I forgot that it must matter in boxing as well, because of how they "challenge" the champions

but I presume that rankings in those 2 sports act in quite a differnt manner than in bw, golf, tennis, squash, etc

On March 02 2007 14:10 Plexa wrote:
despite him showing the worst performance of a protoss of late ;;

Good to see all other protoss rising; they all deserve it.

On March 02 2007 15:03 QuietIdiot wrote:

Anytime had some seriously bad luck when you think about it
Getting cheesed 3 times in OSL = ROFL (I consider the FBH game to be so incredibly gay that it has to be cheese regardless of its characteristics.)
And getting to vs July in a bo3 in MSL...

On March 02 2007 15:44 thedeadhaji wrote:
let's put ourselvesback to pre-OSL 3, when nada was just barely ahead of savior in the kespa rankings. I remember a lot of people clamoring about the rankings, savior should be #1, no ndada is #1 yadayadayada.

Let's say savior didnt get into OSL 3. Nada obviously did. Nada does decently well in osl3, gets top 4. Savior wins Gom MSL. April Kespa says savior is #1 and nada is #2, ranking change without any head to head match between the two.

You really think fans or players would buy into the way kespa ranks who is #1 or #2 without a head to head game between the two, and truely beleve that savior is now all the sudden better than nada? I personally dont think so. Kespa is a "decent" barometer, but nothing that has any sort of real or absolute value in terms of who is the "better" player =S

On March 02 2007 15:05 thedeadhaji wrote:


I am praying for a ZERO PROTOSS OSL

On March 02 2007 15:52 oneofthem wrote:
well no but things like "who's on top of kespa the most" are still meaningful. this particular situation just shows that in certain situations it is not useful. of course, if savior was 500 points ahead of nada, i think that would be a significantly different situation.

On February 28 2007 21:22 oneofthem wrote:
haha midas, stupid move picking savior now backfires.

On March 02 2007 14:37 thedeadhaji wrote:
?? so? Just because it's listed doesnt mean it's necessarily that important.

how often do you hear a player say "oh man, my main goal is to get back in top 10 kespa" or "dude, #1 kespa rank is my career goal" when asked "what are your goals for this year?" etc.

Is there even an instance where in sports, the players actually care deeply about their world rank? Because I certainly cant think of any. Your rank doesnt determine how good you are, so why would they care? :O

On March 02 2007 22:39 CC Rider wrote:
I really think at this point that the best overall BW player in history is no longer Boxer, but Nada. Guys like Savior become really super-hot and then burn out quickly. You saw it happen with Anytime when everyone got all excited about his one win, you saw it happen with July. We've even seen a rise and fall of megastars like Reach and OOv. But the one and only guy who has CONSISTENTLY been at the very top throughout the past six years is Nada.

Mark my words, soon Savior will burn out and fall in the KeSPA ranks, and Nada will still be there in the top 5 forever. That consistency is so much more impressive to me than completely dominating for a brief period.