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funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
January 22 2007 05:29 GMT
#21
On January 22 2007 14:14 Hot_Bid wrote:
another question i should put up is... how many 2nds would equal one win?

ill do that now


Do not please. They are two different things, and each one of them brings something different.

You will get a lot of promotion if you win a major tournament, if you get 2nd, You'll get some, but not 100 2nd places can take the spot for 1 win.

Ask BoxeR .
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-01-22 05:38:03
January 22 2007 05:37 GMT
#22
Actually "like July" is already almost the ultimate success in the BW World, winning OSL twice is way above any number of 2nd place finishes one can have. After all there are only 5 persons who achieved that as of yet (including one who won 3 times).
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Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
January 22 2007 05:42 GMT
#23
1) one osl win

2) july

3) midas

4) nevarr
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
January 22 2007 05:50 GMT
#24
On January 22 2007 14:37 Carnac wrote:
Actually "like July" is already almost the ultimate success in the BW World, winning OSL twice is way above any number of 2nd place finishes one can have. After all there are only 5 persons who achieved that as of yet (including one who won 3 times).

you'd be surprised how many people don't share that opinion, iirc there was a july vs yellow thread a while back where there were tons of people supporting yellow's side
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
January 22 2007 05:54 GMT
#25
Probably because they personally like YellOw a lot
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miyavi
Profile Joined September 2006
Canada245 Posts
January 22 2007 05:58 GMT
#26
hopefully this line from nelly's song #1 will make u think otherwise

"I AM, NUMBER 1, TWO IS NOT A WINNER, AND THREE NOBODY REMEMBERS "
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SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-01-22 06:02:49
January 22 2007 06:00 GMT
#27
I find the first and third polls to not come together.

Poll 1.
You would rather have one OSL 1st place, then drop off the face of the earth rather than being a consistent force to reckon with in the OSL & MSL.

Poll 3.
You would rather choose Midas's career of consistent Starleague appearances, but never acheiving a first place.

We have a conundrum.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
miyavi
Profile Joined September 2006
Canada245 Posts
January 22 2007 06:02 GMT
#28
thats exactly what i was thinking, i'd rather win 1 and start sucking then to never win at all and get 2nd all the time.
NaDa for president
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
January 22 2007 06:04 GMT
#29
Who do you consider the better player though?
The player who wins once then drops off?
Or the player who is always there with a great %?
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miyavi
Profile Joined September 2006
Canada245 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-01-22 06:10:00
January 22 2007 06:09 GMT
#30
good question is that kinda like boxer vs july? in that case the guy that plays at a high level and consistent will always pwn the past winner, im pretty sure about that one.
NaDa for president
Asta
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany3491 Posts
January 22 2007 06:11 GMT
#31
ppl who don't do any kind of sport competitively underestimate how much of an accomplishment it is to be 'one of the best'.
miyavi
Profile Joined September 2006
Canada245 Posts
January 22 2007 06:16 GMT
#32
actually the blind kid that played boxer before, i bet if he had vision he would never lose he's so fucking god like can anyone remember.
NaDa for president
airdave519
Profile Joined March 2005
United States111 Posts
January 22 2007 06:16 GMT
#33
who the hell voted for yellow, seriously... and Casy's career is just getting going. Once midas wins, then and only then will it be worth voting for his scenario
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
January 22 2007 06:18 GMT
#34
well you can't really say "once he wins" because i only made it "like midas" because he never actually won a starleague yet, so if he wins one it'll be "like goodfriend" or someone else who hasn't won one
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 22 2007 06:20 GMT
#35
On January 22 2007 14:27 BlackJack wrote:
The victory is most important. There are so many athletes with great careers that sorrow over never winning a ring. Karl Malone, Dan Marino, Dominique Wilkins,, Charles Barkley, John Stockton, Patrick Ewing, Chris Carter, Gary Payton, etc.


OT: Payton got one, no?
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miyavi
Profile Joined September 2006
Canada245 Posts
January 22 2007 06:24 GMT
#36
was payton out of miami when they won last year? i think he was still in
NaDa for president
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
January 22 2007 06:27 GMT
#37
payton contributed to the victory, but i don't think people will remember him as fondly as if he won one in seattle

winning one on the steep decline of your prime years settling for mid-level exceptions on pseudo-allstar teams like the 04 lakers or 06 heat are like the cop out way to get a championship -_-

still, he won one so i guess that is what matters
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Yogurt
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States4258 Posts
January 22 2007 06:36 GMT
#38
i want the win

its all about the victory

if you ain't first, your last.
ok dont not so good something is something ok ok ok gogogo
TT1_banned
Profile Joined March 2006
Canada1206 Posts
January 22 2007 06:55 GMT
#39
1.1 osl win 2 group stage losses
2.july
3.casy
4.never
TT1_banned
Profile Joined March 2006
Canada1206 Posts
January 22 2007 06:56 GMT
#40
anyone who wins osl has the potential to repeat unlike someone who doesn't
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