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Gandalf
Profile Joined August 2004
Pakistan1905 Posts
January 23 2007 01:09 GMT
#481
thedeadhaji you've obviously taken being proven wrong personally, and have done nothing to "prove" your initial argument, for which you actually pulled out god knows how many quotes.

You're now cleverly directing the argument into a completely new thing. Actually, you're starting a new, pointless argument.

That comment I made in reply to a post that said if the 3;3 teams had split up to play the 1;1s, the bghers had no chance. I didnt say they got "raped" or anything, and I'm not revealing something that was supposed to be kept hidden (the results are known), and despite this I made an addendum in the brackets so that not even a dumbass would mistake its intent. And still, you did. Are you saying mentioning a result in which you name someone who lost is automatically bad mannered, no matter how its phrased? If that is the case, I guarentee every single person who has EVER played this (or any other) game is bad mannered. You're coming off as extremely immature and belligerent, and totally dissatisfied with how this showmatch turned out. Sad. If you ACTUALLY had any problem with that comment, you would have 100% commented about it before this. You're only leaning back on that because you feel utterly humiliated because I disproved you on all points. Sadder still.

You havent even apologized for accusing pickle of going around gloating about beating players or whatever. Shouldnt you? I should think so.

And you should learn to conclude an argument before starting another (completely irrelevant, incorrect and inflammatory) one.

Finally, I will say again what has been said repeatedly: the showmatch was primarily to expose both communities to each other and initiate some camaraderie. Teams, results, maps and other blah blahs are irrelevant. Why dont you go to op bghers and grab a few games? It'll be fun!

Two people of tl.net were talking shit in the channel but I never mentioned that prior to this. Why should I? Wouldnt we be better off focusing on the positives?
Gandalf
Profile Joined August 2004
Pakistan1905 Posts
January 23 2007 01:10 GMT
#482
If you still have a problem and dont see the light, PM me, or make a thread at bghers.com. I'm not going to respond to you anymore in this thread, simply because I dont want to kill something really nice with trivial, pointless shit.
pr0n
Profile Joined September 2005
United States277 Posts
January 23 2007 01:17 GMT
#483
On January 23 2007 09:41 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2007 09:12 pr0n wrote:
On January 23 2007 08:37 DarK]N[exuS wrote:
On January 23 2007 08:11 pr0n wrote:
On January 23 2007 07:59 Gandalf wrote:
Also, the teams were switched for the low games because we only had four players with 1;1 experience, and all four (including surado) expressed a desire to play that.


That seems to say a LOT about the results though. You only have 4 guys with 1v1 decent experience, and they all played? I'm starting to think for each additional team/person we would have added to the competition, TL would have won 1 more series. Obviously the top 5-10 players on each site are going to be comparable, but I'm quite sure the average or median-skilled player on tl.net is going to be a lot better than on bghers (since I beat them half the time on bgh and basically all the time on low, and I'm below average for tl). Next time we should include as many players as are interested, and see how it turns out.


As has been said many times, the average BGHer at our website is not anything near comparable to the average BGHer in pubs. As in, we are better.


but I'm quite sure the average or median-skilled player on tl.net is going to be a lot better than on bghers (since I beat them half the time on bgh and basically all the time on low, and I'm below average for tl).


What the hell are you talking about? You play some pub BGH games and now you beat "them" (whoever that is) half the time? And you beat "them" all the time on low? Seriously, ignorant people like you have already posted and been answered and proven wrong in 2-3 other threads, so go there if you want to continue such a dumb argument. Also, sorry to say, but the average TL.netter is probably significantly less active/skilled than the average BGHers.com member, simply by virtue of numbers as has been said; TL.net has thousands and thousands more members than we do.

And finally, as has been said many times as well, if TL top 5 played BGH players top 5, the TL top 5 would gangbang the BGHers 1on1 (duh).


Um, no, retard. I'm talking about the people at bghers.com, not public bghers. I beat pubs almost every game, and beat the founders and regulars at your site about half the time. Try reading next time.

i would bet that most of the good bghers would beat you on low and trounce you on bgh, get off your high horse. they are not bad players, most of them are quite good, and many people from their community are vastly favorable to people like you.


That's the most asinine comment in this thread. You've never seen me play.
pr0n
Profile Joined September 2005
United States277 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-01-23 01:21:49
January 23 2007 01:21 GMT
#484
On January 23 2007 10:10 Gandalf wrote:
If you still have a problem and dont see the light, PM me, or make a thread at bghers.com. I'm not going to respond to you anymore in this thread, simply because I dont want to kill something really nice with trivial, pointless shit.


You're only saying that because you're losing your little pissing contest with him and want the last word. If you wanted it to be a friendly matchup between 2 forums, you could have. Unfortunately you came in here and started bragging about stuff, so you already decided it wasn't. Don't get upset when others counter your bm by defending themselves.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-01-23 01:26:34
January 23 2007 01:23 GMT
#485
i wrote that 2nd post before reading your response, but you would probably not take my word for it. I wanted to keep the two posts separate, as they were directed at different topics. One, for the purpose of identifying the persona of whom I misidentified as pickle, and the other, at your comments.

I would indeed like to apologize for wrongly accusing and misidntifying pickle, for as you said, he is not responsible for any of this.

But my disapproval for your comments still remains. Do I believe simply stating the results of a match is insuling? Of course not. However think about what your comments imply and what kind of undertone it carries. It is a far cry from an objective report of match results. Just as you took offense to my subjective (but wrong) comments about your friend Pickle, is it not expected that I, or anyone close to those two you mention, would be rubbed the wrong way through what you wrote?

Perhaps that comment serves as an effective counter to what someone else may have posted before me. However I am looking at that line and that line only: an insult to those two who as you yourself say, played to "initiate some camaraderie". Can you honestly say that the line "the two guys who had barely no (or next to nothing) 1;1 experience beat alleyn and Hnr)Insane" has no negative implications for these two?

edit: and again, you managed to post while I was writing this.
Gandalf
Profile Joined August 2004
Pakistan1905 Posts
January 23 2007 01:38 GMT
#486
"I would indeed like to apologize for wrongly accusing and misidntifying pickle, for as you said, he is not responsible for any of this." ==> I'm glad.

"However think about what your comments imply and what kind of undertone it carries." ==> I can assure you I had ZERO ill intention while making that comment. If you had rephrased your argument to "However think about what your comments might be taken to imply and what kind of undertone they might be perceived to carry", it would've been fairer. I can understand why a declaration about results could be insulting, but the context and reasons for which I made that statement and the explicit wording I used should make it clear that that wasnt my intent. You have here accused me of making a statement that carried an "undertone" and that they "implied" something. They didnt imply anything. I stated what I wanted to say, and I would know better than you if my words carry any undertone or not. After all, I was the one who typed them out.

"However I am looking at that line and that line only: " ==> I hope you realize that by saying this you have explicitly exposed the fact that you took this statement out of context. We all know taking things out of context will more often than not change the intended meaning. If, on the other hand, you read the post before it, and realize that my statement was a reply to a post that was very offensive towards bghers, you'll realize that I was very gracious and mannered in the words and tone I used.

And why did you never comment on the so many unfair arguments and statements against bghers? Why didnt you play vigilante then?
Gandalf
Profile Joined August 2004
Pakistan1905 Posts
January 23 2007 01:40 GMT
#487
pr0n is the type of guy I'll never understand lol
em.and.m
Profile Joined August 2006
633 Posts
January 23 2007 01:46 GMT
#488
Just let it go guys, afterall their only BGHers what more do they know ^__^v
Gandalf
Profile Joined August 2004
Pakistan1905 Posts
January 23 2007 01:47 GMT
#489
haha yeah

BGH newbs
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
January 23 2007 01:53 GMT
#490
Where ARE the results anyways? They're not on front page of this thread ;o and I'm not dredging through 25 pages of this idiotic flaming to find them.
ㅋㄲㅈㅁ
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-01-23 01:56:21
January 23 2007 01:55 GMT
#491
I copied them over ... on one of these pages =X

i'll try to find it...

bottom fo this page
http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?currentpage=20&topic_id=48741
Gandalf
Profile Joined August 2004
Pakistan1905 Posts
January 23 2007 01:58 GMT
#492
They're on the front page of bghers.com.

Wait, lemme get the link....

Ok here it is:


The Results
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36388 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-01-23 02:12:30
January 23 2007 02:10 GMT
#493
On January 23 2007 08:53 Gandalf wrote:
Also, the two guys who had barely no (or next to nothing) 1;1 experience beat alleyn and Hnr)Insane, so I dont really understand your point at all. (Not trying to gloat, sorry)



by implication: yeah alleyn and insane must really suck to lose 1:1 to bgh players with no normal map experience, or bghers must be a community of bw savants for this to happen (not trying to be insulting)

/sarcasm
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Gandalf
Profile Joined August 2004
Pakistan1905 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-01-23 02:48:21
January 23 2007 02:30 GMT
#494
Again, taken out of context. Read my previous posts please.

testie dropped 3 games vs koolam who has barely any 1;1 experience. Is anyone saying he sucks??

Edit: took out something not needed at all -_-
Gandalf
Profile Joined August 2004
Pakistan1905 Posts
January 23 2007 02:32 GMT
#495
Read:

"you are a mother fucker"

Sounds bad? Read in context:

"haha man that was crazy, you are a mother fucker, i fucking love you man!"

Different, yes?

What do you want me to make of such flimsy attacks?
Gandalf
Profile Joined August 2004
Pakistan1905 Posts
January 23 2007 02:34 GMT
#496
I could give you a ton more examples too.

If you're so bent on believing what I say, why dont you agree to all the positive statements I've made? A super selective out-of-context quotation being forced to imply something it doesnt only screams you're trying to pick a fight.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-01-23 02:39:30
January 23 2007 02:37 GMT
#497
zomg flame wars in a bgh thread?

btw the fact that BGH'rs were surprised or even offended when the revelation was brought up that BGH team play consists of 1 bo and 1 unit massed is hilarious. Common guys, its right under your noses.

Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36388 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-01-23 02:49:49
January 23 2007 02:39 GMT
#498
incontrol is a big huggable bear
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Gandalf
Profile Joined August 2004
Pakistan1905 Posts
January 23 2007 02:56 GMT
#499
No thread is really fun without flaming ^_- Think about how fun reading this'll be a year from now haha!
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32277 Posts
January 23 2007 03:27 GMT
#500
Let it go already.
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