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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-07 18:39:08
April 07 2015 18:38 GMT
#41
On April 08 2015 03:23 Yorbon wrote:
Apparently I play the worst possible way, lol. Super tight grip, pretty high sens, and 80% of my movement is wrist pivot.


Your sens is like tectonic plate movements compared to some users. I have more than a few people on skype contacts (and have talked to on forums) who insist 2-3k DPI on 1080p is too slow

you also have 0 positive/negative accel and actually control mouse well so you're not squeezing it trying not to overshoot things all of the time
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Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
April 07 2015 18:48 GMT
#42
On April 08 2015 03:38 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2015 03:23 Yorbon wrote:
Apparently I play the worst possible way, lol. Super tight grip, pretty high sens, and 80% of my movement is wrist pivot.


Your sens is like tectonic plate movements compared to some users. I have more than a few people on skype contacts (and have talked to on forums) who insist 2-3k DPI on 1080p is too slow

you also have 0 positive/negative accel and actually control mouse well so you're not squeezing it trying not to overshoot things all of the time
yeah, true, although it's gotten worse since i've pushed my limits less hard in that regard. Regarding accuracy, I train muscle memory more than trying to 'go somewhere on screen really fast'. Also, the tightness of my grip correlates more with bpm than accuracy, I think that's worth mentioning as well.
DiMiaN
Profile Joined October 2013
Finland299 Posts
April 07 2015 18:53 GMT
#43
So, best way to play BW is to have low DPI/CPI? I have Razer Abyssus with 3 dpi options. I had it on 3500dpi. :S After reading this thread I changed it to 450dpi and higher sens on win.
TheGreatOne
Profile Joined November 2005
United States534 Posts
April 07 2015 20:26 GMT
#44
Okay guys thanks for your input. I will probably just get the cheapest gaming mouse I can find, and the cheapest gaming mouse pad I can find. The Razor Abyssus looks like a tempting buy but so does the top cheap Logitech mice. As long as its a good gaming mouse I think I will be fine. I will probably just start out with a nice gaming mouse pad, and see how that affects my game performance with the mouse I already have.
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20285 Posts
April 07 2015 20:39 GMT
#45
On April 08 2015 03:53 DiMiaN wrote:
So, best way to play BW is to have low DPI/CPI? I have Razer Abyssus with 3 dpi options. I had it on 3500dpi. :S After reading this thread I changed it to 450dpi and higher sens on win.


No, you should never change your windows sensitivity. It should always be at 1:1 (which is 6/11) with enhance pointer precision disabled.

Since brood war plays at 640x480, that means that 400dpi when playing brood war is the same as having 900dpi on a 1080p screen, for how far you have to move the mouse to cross the screen vertically. That's a very good sensitivity level and you should not deviate far from it.
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TheGreatOne
Profile Joined November 2005
United States534 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-07 21:24:32
April 07 2015 21:16 GMT
#46
I have my pointer speed set on the fastest speed, is that why when I run bw the color is all messed up? Should I just lower the speed and uncheck pointer precision or just lower the speed and leave pointer precision checked?
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Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-07 21:47:28
April 07 2015 21:46 GMT
#47
On April 08 2015 06:16 TheGreatOne wrote:
I have my pointer speed set on the fastest speed, is that why when I run bw the color is all messed up? Should I just lower the speed and uncheck pointer precision or just lower the speed and leave pointer precision checked?
bw colors have little to do with mouse sensitivity as far as i'm aware. There are some color bugs due newer windows versions for example, but there are some fixes for that (google...)
Pointer precision should always be turned off, windows pointer speed should always be neutral. So yes, you should lower the speed and uncheck pointer precision.

I don't really know any more than that, but of this I'm quite sure..
TheGreatOne
Profile Joined November 2005
United States534 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-07 22:40:57
April 07 2015 22:38 GMT
#48
On April 08 2015 06:46 Yorbon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2015 06:16 TheGreatOne wrote:
I have my pointer speed set on the fastest speed, is that why when I run bw the color is all messed up? Should I just lower the speed and uncheck pointer precision or just lower the speed and leave pointer precision checked?
bw colors have little to do with mouse sensitivity as far as i'm aware. There are some color bugs due newer windows versions for example, but there are some fixes for that (google...)
Pointer precision should always be turned off, windows pointer speed should always be neutral. So yes, you should lower the speed and uncheck pointer precision.

I don't really know any more than that, but of this I'm quite sure..


Okay thank you very much! Maybe that is why I couldn't split my beginning workers, or micro very well. Lol
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jello_biafra
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United Kingdom6635 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-07 23:45:38
April 07 2015 23:45 GMT
#49
I've used a microsoft mini optical mouse for the last four years, it was weird at at first since it's so small but now that I'm used to it I believe I can play as well with it as any other mouse. So yeah...just find something you're comfortable with.

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LaStScan
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)1289 Posts
April 08 2015 01:07 GMT
#50
I only use this mouse. I used Logitech G1 mouse at Fengzi's house, and I did not like it. It's heavy for SC.
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TheGreatOne
Profile Joined November 2005
United States534 Posts
April 08 2015 02:31 GMT
#51
Cool mice!
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sdjklahsjask
Profile Joined March 2015
Canada73 Posts
April 08 2015 03:03 GMT
#52
if youre gonna go GAYMER mouse, get a steel series. its the least gaudy awful IM A GAMER design. stay away from razer or any mouse that looks like its going to turn into a decepticon.
sertas
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden886 Posts
April 08 2015 03:40 GMT
#53
razer deathadder doh is super great, a mouse u can have for years no problem.
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
April 08 2015 04:12 GMT
#54
On April 07 2015 05:00 TheGreatOne wrote:
I want a mouse that is going to get me to D/D+/C-/C/C+ levels on iccup to just start out with.


If you want to get higher than D+, you're going to need a serious mouse. A normal logitech mouse is probably not going to cut it in the competitive world of StarCraft. That's just the truth. What you absolutely must have is the Razer Ourobouros:

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The Razer Ouroboros delivers the ultimate in comfort and functionality. It’s wireless, a rarity for the gaming scene, but boasts a latency-free connection and a rechargeable dock that can double as a wired connection. Its ambidextrous design is good for both left- and right-handed gamers, and it has an abundance of physical adjustments so you can tune it to the perfect comfort setting. If you're serious about playing Brood War, you essentially must purchase this mouse, or else you may as well not even play at all.
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sdjklahsjask
Profile Joined March 2015
Canada73 Posts
April 08 2015 04:33 GMT
#55
On April 08 2015 13:12 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2015 05:00 TheGreatOne wrote:
I want a mouse that is going to get me to D/D+/C-/C/C+ levels on iccup to just start out with.


If you want to get higher than D+, you're going to need a serious mouse. A normal logitech mouse is probably not going to cut it in the competitive world of StarCraft. That's just the truth. What you absolutely must have is the Razer Ourobouros:

[image loading]

The Razer Ouroboros delivers the ultimate in comfort and functionality. It’s wireless, a rarity for the gaming scene, but boasts a latency-free connection and a rechargeable dock that can double as a wired connection. Its ambidextrous design is good for both left- and right-handed gamers, and it has an abundance of physical adjustments so you can tune it to the perfect comfort setting. If you're serious about playing Brood War, you essentially must purchase this mouse, or else you may as well not even play at all.


looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
TheGreatOne
Profile Joined November 2005
United States534 Posts
April 09 2015 03:04 GMT
#56
I'm thinking something under 50$.
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cava
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States1035 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-09 03:13:28
April 09 2015 03:09 GMT
#57
Cheap, accurate, simple. Logitech G100s

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Also, this is one of the oldest brands of gaming mousepads, the surface 1030. Still the best.

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cava!
Probemicro
Profile Joined February 2014
3708 Posts
April 09 2015 05:26 GMT
#58
On April 08 2015 13:12 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2015 05:00 TheGreatOne wrote:
I want a mouse that is going to get me to D/D+/C-/C/C+ levels on iccup to just start out with.


If you want to get higher than D+, you're going to need a serious mouse. A normal logitech mouse is probably not going to cut it in the competitive world of StarCraft. That's just the truth. What you absolutely must have is the Razer Ourobouros:

[image loading]

The Razer Ouroboros delivers the ultimate in comfort and functionality. It’s wireless, a rarity for the gaming scene, but boasts a latency-free connection and a rechargeable dock that can double as a wired connection. Its ambidextrous design is good for both left- and right-handed gamers, and it has an abundance of physical adjustments so you can tune it to the perfect comfort setting. If you're serious about playing Brood War, you essentially must purchase this mouse, or else you may as well not even play at all.


that mouse looks like it would cut your hand the moment you touch it.
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-09 09:16:16
April 09 2015 08:58 GMT
#59
On April 08 2015 13:12 ninazerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2015 05:00 TheGreatOne wrote:
I want a mouse that is going to get me to D/D+/C-/C/C+ levels on iccup to just start out with.


If you want to get higher than D+, you're going to need a serious mouse. A normal logitech mouse is probably not going to cut it in the competitive world of StarCraft. That's just the truth. What you absolutely must have is the Razer Ourobouros:

[image loading]

The Razer Ouroboros delivers the ultimate in comfort and functionality. It’s wireless, a rarity for the gaming scene, but boasts a latency-free connection and a rechargeable dock that can double as a wired connection. Its ambidextrous design is good for both left- and right-handed gamers, and it has an abundance of physical adjustments so you can tune it to the perfect comfort setting. If you're serious about playing Brood War, you essentially must purchase this mouse, or else you may as well not even play at all.

Hahaha.... I see what you did there :D
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-09 09:05:55
April 09 2015 09:03 GMT
#60
On April 07 2015 05:00 TheGreatOne wrote:
I have a regular 20 $ Walmart logitech mouse right now and it isn't very accurate. Im wondering if I should just get a 30 or 40 $ Logitech gaming mouse, or try a Steel-series gaming mouse? I want a mouse that is going to get me to D/D+/C-/C/C+ levels on iccup to just start out with. What is better for BW SteelSeries mice or Logitech mice? What kind of mouse pad would you get?

How is logitech for $20 is not accurate in 640x480 game? First of all no mouse in the world will get you to C+

BW is not SC2 with all its "progamer" gear bullshit campaigns. Training will get you to C+. Replace the mouse only if you are not comfortable with how it feels in your hand and don't waste your money.
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