EPT[Article] Best Terran's to never win a major. - Page 7
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Caladbolg
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hitthat
Poland2276 Posts
On November 19 2014 01:27 saltywet wrote: fantasy is a bad and overrated player that lived off the builds tailored by oov, and got the silvers and gold by strategical efforts not his own (mechanically he is good though i must admit; without the tutalage of oov he would amount to the level of really or puma, who had good mechanics but were predictable, unversatile practice partners who couldn't adapt to change, hailed and hyped to be top 5 terrans by artosis but failed when they joined the a-teams of their teams; artosis also claimed leta was a bad player nowhere near top 5 iirc). The last 2 silvers in tving and jin air osl that he obtained without oov were a result of the transition to SC2 where no one good practiced BW anymore and flash injured his wrist, the only reason he got to the finals. The evidence which can support this statement is that he never amounted to anything in sc2, cuz he had no OOV to handfeed him builds and he got no handicaps via lack of good players or players with injuries in his matches HAHAHAHA! The best compilation of butthurt and poor excuses I've ever read. | ||
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~chut~
France1317 Posts
But it's true that Midas was probably the best player of his time, along with Savior, for a moment. I don't think one can say that about Iris. They're pretty much tied for 1st place to me. I think TheMarine could get the 5th spot instead of Sea, as much as i like Sea, just like Leta he couldn't transfer his PL powers to individual league. TheMarine was the serious deal back then. Also, he was good at tvp. People underlook Light too much. He was a great player, actually capable of fighting with the best of the pack on regular basis. It's funny that invisible terran was actually considered good at tvp at first... I remember liquibetting on him against Bisu when the met during the infamous Gom MSL. I thought it was his time to shine, he had a good opportunity, going against a young teammate not so good at pvt... haha, i'm not so good at predicting BW  | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12024 Posts
On November 19 2014 01:27 saltywet wrote: fantasy is a bad and overrated player that lived off the builds tailored by oov, and got the silvers and gold by strategical efforts not his own (mechanically he is good though i must admit; without the tutalage of oov he would amount to the level of really or puma, who had good mechanics but were predictable, unversatile practice partners who couldn't adapt to change, hailed and hyped to be top 5 terrans by artosis but failed when they joined the a-teams of their teams; artosis also claimed leta was a bad player nowhere near top 5 iirc). The last 2 silvers in tving and jin air osl that he obtained without oov were a result of the transition to SC2 where no one good practiced BW anymore and flash injured his wrist, the only reason he got to the finals. The evidence which can support this statement is that he never amounted to anything in sc2, cuz he had no OOV to handfeed him builds and he got no handicaps via lack of good players or players with injuries in his matches You realise Flash was given builds too right? That's why the position of coach on the team exists. Every team has/had them and all of them feed builds down to their players. Very few people could take oovs builds and make them work like Fantasy did. The SKT terrans all used them but Fantasy was the one who made them shine. | ||
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hitthat
Poland2276 Posts
So much about "being predictable" | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On November 19 2014 01:17 Mirabel_ wrote: You can't drop down from S-class, but if you could, Flash was less of an S-class player than Bisu towards the end of KeSPA BW. Just no. Fantasy overtook Flash during the last 4 months or so of BW but Flash was still the undisputed second best player unless you include Bisu's 'success' in Hybrid proleague (probably should've focused a bit harder on the sc2). Flash was 73% for 2012 (legit pro BW ended with the SKT vs KT final). A Bo1 loss to Bisu on a broken map doesn't change anything. | ||
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
And even if its successful its easier to recover from it(larva mechanic) or one lost too many units during the drop and hence outright die to a quick counter a-move deathball. without being able to bank on his best strength to make up for his lack of macro, fantasy is about as good as a typical Korean terran in sc2. (Hence I predict fantasy won't amount to anything in sc2, pls start streaming BW on afreeca kthxbai) | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On November 19 2014 22:56 Probemicro wrote: (Hence I predict fantasy won't amount to anything in sc2 You might as well predict Life to win Blizzcon | ||
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Probemicro
3708 Posts
On November 19 2014 22:58 Scarecrow wrote: You might as well predict Life to win Blizzcon But the guy himself still thinks otherwise (based on what he said on his stream). He needs to wake up and return his true roots | ||
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Mirabel_
United States1768 Posts
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Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
On November 20 2014 01:26 Mirabel_ wrote: Thanks Qikz, now I need to know who actually developed the Bisu build. Daezang (seriously) | ||
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United States10328 Posts
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konadora
Singapore66358 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/65389-bisu-exposé | ||
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Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
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]343[
United States10328 Posts
thanks kona <3 | ||
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~chut~
France1317 Posts
I hope you start with the protosses GTR, I'm very interested in your list. Zergs, we know who will be 1st and who will be 2nd pretty much. | ||
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Dazed.
Canada3301 Posts
On November 19 2014 01:17 Mirabel_ wrote: By that logic Garimto was S class in 2007, even though he couldnt win a game to save his life. Because five years before that he was S class.You can't drop down from S-class, but if you could, Flash was less of an S-class player than Bisu towards the end of KeSPA BW. | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9105 Posts
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n.DieJokes
United States3443 Posts
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