On March 31 2016 07:50 prech wrote: Looks like there's going to be some kind of offline show match between Flash and EffOrt at the Afreeca studio. Not sure when, yet.
Someone mentioned it on Sea's Afreeca board, scheduled for this Thursday, but I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere else. But then, Flash mentioned "Kim Jung woo" and "Afreeca studio" during his stream today, at about the 30mins mark, so it sounds like it's happening...
It is part of their event for the recent renovations tonight at 19:00 KST (31/03 at 3:00 PST).
There will be a 30 minute introduction period with speeches / touring of the studio.
Next will be an offline match between Flash and Effort, followed by ChulGu (Terr0r) and Britney.
After this, two popular LoL BJs will play in a 2v2 in LoL against 2 members of the audience.
On April 13 2016 00:24 toriak wrote: There is a video about Jaedong on Zero's youtube channel. If there is any korean in this community, i d appreciate to know whats going on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2GXGdIs468
3 separate stories in the video.
1) Snow was an online practice player with Hanbit Stars. ZerO told him to go somewhere else because Hanbit did not pay its players very well at the time. Of course, the pay became much better after Woongjin took over the team as the sponsor.
2) To bring over a good player, you need to play twice the player's salary to his original team and you have to pay the player on top of that. Most people did not even think about free agency because of that. Woongjin prepared a boat load of money (300,000,000 KRW? Some hypotheticals are thrown around in the video) to acquire Jaedong, but the deal did not happen because it became known that Jaedong wanted to stay with Hwaseung.
3) At some point during the Hanbit years, the finances of the team became so bad that the coach interviewed each player and asked where he would like to go when the team folded. Guemchi named SKT and Samsung. ZerO "sucked up" to the coach by saying that he would quit pro gaming if the team folded. ZerO jokingly says that he immediately became one of the team's main players.
Maybe this deserves more attention, but I will post it here since I don't feel like starting a new thread about something depressing.
Sea, Flash, and Mong played a 3-on-3 match against another team. Best-of-5. 1300 balloons per person (~$100 before taxes and fees).
During game 3, before scouting the opponents, Sea tells his teammates Mong and Flash, "Those guys have two zergs, so we can win if we go double-bio".
This immediately leads Flash to ask, "How do you know their races?" Mong asks, "Are you...stream-cheating?"
For some context, stream-cheating is reviled and justly so since it is cheating. In this case, there was also money (balloons) involved. Jaehoon's involvement in the Afreeca scene evaporated once he was caught stream-cheating in balloon matches. He is now called Ma Jaehoon because of those incidents.
And here's the kicker: Sea responds, "No, I'm watching the chat", which means that he got the information from viewers on his chat.
Flash did not seem to understand how serious this was. After the game, the ever-so-naive Flash asked if it was a big deal that Sea stream-cheated since someone like Terror stream-cheats all the time. Of course, Sea being the person that he is, Sea turned it around and actually threatened to ban people who were criticizing his chat-cheating.
its Sea though, not really surprised, he isn't exactly an exemplary role model
heck i kinda remembered and quote directly from lemmata himself
On November 03 2013 11:56 lemmata wrote: It's disgraceful, but I actually don't think that Sea is a bad person, and mostly feel really sorry for Sea. It is painfully obvious that he is essentially a child with zero experience in the real world and societal interactions outside the context of pro gaming. Sea just doesn't know any better and I bet that no one bothered to teach him about these little things that most of us pick up in regular interactions with people at school, work, etc. He sounds like a 9th grader most of the time. To me, it is sadder that the pro gaming industry never prepared the players for life after gaming when the average career probably lasts a lot less than 5 years.
btw toriak this is chat "cheating", unless its premeditated you cannot blame the player as they cannot stop trollish viewers from posting information on the chat (also the information may not always be accurate, because trolls). can't really shut off the chat since streaming your games while interacting with viewers is the whole point of streaming. is like calling someone who hear the screams of fans about a cheese in a faulty booth a cheater. sea is really tactless though and should at least not divulge the tip to flash and mong. but well its sea.
On April 14 2016 06:53 lemmata wrote: Maybe this deserves more attention, but I will post it here since I don't feel like starting a new thread about something depressing.
Thanks for sharing.
Really disappointing to hear more irresponsible behavior from Sea. Really calls into question any online tournament in which he, and others, participate if people are willing to cheat for <$100 matches. I really have to wonder if this is why Sea always underachieves during the offline leagues.
Just terrible for the scene, especially if sponsors learn about such acts
I really have to wonder if this is why Sea always underachieves during the offline leagues.
Sea has been unable to get out of Ro16 in individual leagues since the days he was the one of the best if not the best Terran in the professional circuit around ~2006, so you have to count some history.