Alright, to my knowledge, most of this site in some way keeps up with the progaming scene. We all have our favorite progamers for some reason or another. So this is the thread where you get to state your case on why your favorite progamer is your... favorite.
My favorite? Nal_rA, this is the guy that introduced me to progaming. He is one of the main reasons I so deeply enjoy playing protoss and whole heartedly stick to them. Right now, imo, he is easily the best protoss in the world. His understanding of the game and especially protoss is just about unmatched. I love his unique style, (specifically in pvz) and his cheeses. He is one of the most creative players in the business and he is a joy to watch. Sure, this little speech doesn't do him justice but it doesn't matter, nothing anyone can type up will do him justice. Kang Min fighting!!
Xellos and the rest of the CJ team, including their coach. When I did my documentary on him he was so obliging, acceding to every request we made and not charging us anything. if not for that I wouldn't have kept my job. He even gave me his own G.O. team jacket as a souvenir, and teamed up with fOru to buy me a Swatch watch as a present even though they didn't have a sponsor and didn't know where their next meal was coming from. In the ranking of nice guys, he must be even higher up than his ranking in the world of e-sports.
Park Ji-Ho has been my idol, my inspiration and my guidance since i first got seriously into the game (2004). I watched every single replay aviable of his (even the pre 1.11 ones) and learnt from him. PvT rapidly became my best machup due to this. Many times I've thought about switching to another race, but PuSan continually proves himself to me as a 1st rate progamer and keeps me going. Whether its his recent games against Magma or Light or his oldschool series vs Midas, his games are a work of art. Most recently, his play has inspired me to be creative. Since The first round of Shinhan 2005 Pusan hasnt used the same pvt build twice to my knowledge. Some of his most notable games include his rape of boxer and oov on Neo-Forte, and his epic clash against boxer on 815 (game 1), his game vs Casy on Ride of Valkyries, and his 3-0 of casy in the 3/4 playoffs. His 2-1 defeat of midas- 11-1 tvp at the time. His recent game against canata proves that he still is a very very skilled gamer. Spirit Toss ftw!
A couple years back I was a random player; well, I think I just picked random matchups out of the hat depending on whatever tickled my fancy at the moment. I had also just switched over to Lost Temple-only from BGH with roughly 70~80 apm and I was frequently playing 1v1's in #motel on East server.
But anyways, one night a guy showed me a replay of SlayerS_`BoxeR`.... it made me want to change to terran on the spot. The funny part was that the replay was corrupt too lol... but I still saw this one move that made me pick terran from that point on.
The replay was BoxeR vs Britney Spears on Lost Temple. Britney 9 pooled and BoxeR countered it with a makeshift wall. (Flying barracks over 2 scvs and 1 marine) I had never encountered such creativity in Starcraft like this before. It was genius; such a brilliant move.
I harassed the guy that showed me the replay to show all of SlayerS_`BoxeR`'s replays that night. I think I saw all of his released replays in that single night. O_O
Yellow, cause i started following progaming back during coca cola osl and at that time he was the impressive newcomer not afraid of Boxer, pushing him to game 5. His rivalry with Boxer provides games we all remember, they are probably the most consistent old school players (qualified for more than 12 osl each, something like that). And he's always smiling, even when he loses (which happens to often, but in France we like losers!).
Damn, i can still remember old days on bw.com when Mensrea was doing live reports... Yellow represents that time for me, i'm not really impressed by his play anymore, but i always like to hear about him winning and i always vote for him.
My first "idol" was my Protoss idol since I started with that race. None other than IntoTheRain. I really liked his style with such outstanding templar tech use (particularly HTs) and on top of that he had such a cool sounding name. It just rolls off your tongue.
My second "idol" was the Terran legend NaDa. I don't remember when I became enamered with him, but I watching him play...just wow. The way he would control a game with Boxer-like micro and NTT-like macro was just unheard of and unimaginable. Watching how perfect he would play was just scary.
My third and final "idol" is the Zerg monster Savior. He has that same flare as the younger NaDa did, with beautiful micro and yet he is known as a macro gamer, with a sense of timing so good that he can do things I could only dream about (the way he shat all over Terato in the MSL and the way he tore NaDa a new one at WEF).
Park Dae Man aka Daezang[gnh]. Obviously don't know these guys so I go by how they play and their style. Very good agressive macro style. My main connection to this guy is that his replays basically taught me pvp.
Daezang is just starting to come into the spotlight, with this MSL. He got a really poor draw, but was able to beat Chojja so far. He has shown himself to be a well rounded gamer, beating jju, chojja, nada, boxer, rock, etc.
Runner ups. Bisu[shield]. I've liked reach as well, more or less indiffrent to kingdom as not many reps. For whatever reason ive been more or less indiffrent to Ra, ok bash me now.
Casy - You heard me say it before so I won't again. Same with Boxer, etc. But here are 2 progamers I think are under-fanned and one of my favorites.
But now, I think Xellos and Kingdom need some light.
Xellos because HE IS CJ. HE IS G.O. 1/3rd of his tournament winnings were used to help his team. They didn't have a sponsor and their team was medium-strong at best. Yet, with Xellos as their ace, his awesome early-mid 2000's hot streak, and his steady perfection.. he helped not only himself but over a handful of progamers eat and sleep by paying a lot of his own winnings. Midas left (I think it was him...), Ra left, GoRush left..... Xellos stayed. Xellos is the pillar upon which CJ now stands. He is what Boxer is to SKT1. And if you don't like Xellos or his play didn't get you excited if you were around in the 2002-era... you are an empty empty BW player. Before Oov, Xellos, Nada, and Boxer were kings. And since he is back, I can't even express how disgustingly happy I am to joke about how fuckin cold, stoic, machine-like Xellos is, how he NEVER FUCKIN smiles, and yet deep inside, he is probably as fuzzy and warm as Jesus. The dude coulda hit big transferring to strong teams of the time like KTF or Hanbit ( they were still strong then) but to have that kind of perseverence.. Plus he gave storyteller a fuckin watch.. A+++++ And he's hot. YOU KNOW he's hot. There is a girl at my school who looks like Xellos that I wanna mack on cuz shes cute too.
Kingdom - Old school extraordinaire and came back from WAY back and showed us Toss power again and again. GoRush and Kingdom will ALWAYS have a special place in my hearts because they are in a handful of gamers that have lasted from Boxer's Era. Garim left us, Doggi died off, Samjjang couldn't win anymore, IntotheRain commentates, but Kingdom... he still plays... and plays like a MAN! You guys say Reach is mantoss because he plays manly.. puhleez. Reach doesn't get in your face and proxy your ass, pylon your probes, gas rush your gas, zealot your ass, and probe harass to kill you in 5 minutes. Nowadays he builds flowerfields and air-pirates then gets raped against snakes that spit green glop at you.. Smooth mantoss. What Garim did for the hardcore zealot, Kingdom brought back and made even better. While Reach is nowadays playing like a hybrid of Ra and loser, Kingdom is still hitting top 4's, putting up fights against ALL of them. Ra has enough fans, he's the Dreamer, the romantic of Protoss. Reach is the "man" toss, the brute strenght and power, but in the end, Devils always crap on man, and Kingdom is that much better. Not only does he play aggresive and in your face, he is FUCKn EVIL. Plus.. how can you not love a winning pro-gamer who pulls off a Kingdumb... And he is SKT1's only winning protoss... Who do you think made Rainbow's Reavers so hot? Yeah baby... Left Hand for Empire, Right Hand for Rule Too many memorable moments from Kingdom to dislike him. <3 Always.. in my <3
EDIT - And Kingdom's specialty unit is the coolest of them all - The Probe
On August 28 2006 04:29 KorvspaD wrote: I love those live reports that goes like, oov is under attack, oov lost some scvs to a reaver drop, oov is defending with scvs, storm drop just killed alot of scv, gg oov wins.
I have three idols for each race even though I like pretty much all the top progamers except GF, Mumyung, Rainbow, JJu, ZergMan, and Doggi.
Basically players with great execution are fun to watch and I also consider myself being more micro/macro oriented than strategy oriented. It's art watching perfect micro and macro at the same time. These players are weaker strategywise, but stand out and make up for it with pure skills in the two fundamental traits this game has.
For Protoss its Park Jung Suk aka [Oops]Reach, because of his inhuman micro/macro. His use of templars in shuttles are absolutely stunning in PvT. He's the only Protoss to have 3-0ed Oov, and the only player he has a serious jinx against is Nada. Mostly got credit for his macro before, but he is responsible for the noisiest crowd ever when he maelstromed 30-40 devourers against Chojja in MSL.
For Terran its Lee Yun Yeol aka [ReD]NaDa, also because of his extreme micro/macro. His SKTerran is matched by none, and he's the most accomplished gamer in history. Also his matchups are very even, and he pulls of pimp moves all the time. For example his 5 dropship 5 different places against Jy on Luna, and also his excellent vulture micro against Gorush in MSL.
For Zerg its Park Sung Jun aka JulyZerg, yet again because of devastating micro/macro. He's the pioneer of Zerg, starting the golden age of Zerg when he became the first Zerg to ever win one of the major korean leagues. His mutamicro is ridiculous, and he has stopped a large number of crazy bunker rushes with worshipworthy dronemicro. The one against Nada in Snickers comes to mind, but also the one against Boxer in his highlight video. I've never been as happy for a player winning an OSL final as I were watching the 5th game against GF in EVER2 OSL. Not only because I absolutely didnt want GF winning, but the way he UNDRESSED GF with his mutas. Im not sure ANY other Zerg player would have won in a situation like that.
Other players I like are Boxer for having the best micro ever, Oov for having the best macro ever, Anytime for his ballsy strats, rA for his fantastic Sair/Reaver, and Sync for his sparky sunkenmelting.
Ok, I'd make a long post...but it is Boxer. Just because he is sheer...awesome. He defined the term 'micro' and introduced me to a new world of Starcraft - the Progaming scene.
After hearing about his legendary plays and seeing a few of his games I really started to get more into SC, I even switched to Terran from Zerg because he made me see the true race. :D
Boxer is just...that good that you are in awe of some of the things he has achieved...and for as long as he has been doing it.
Honourable mention: NaDa...because him + Boxer = the ultimate Terrans.
Kekeke none of the top progamers you mention as top progamers are top cept Jju and GF. None of the others have even been in top 15 I think.. maybe zergman and mumyung BARELY.
His TvZ is unbelievable. His TvT is unbeatable. His TvP is always stellar.
He's the best all-around Terran. I was first introduced to the Progaming Scene when a friend of mine showed me Pimpest Plays 2004. My favorite players became Nal_rA, Kingdom, and BoxeR. Then it was BoxeR. Then I found out he was not what he used to be and it became NaDa. Then I found out NaDa is such a predictable player and I found XellOs. The Perfect Terran. Shoot, only he's worthy of such a name.
On September 08 2006 10:23 jkillashark wrote: DdalDaRee (DDR) Terran, XellOs.
His TvZ is unbelievable. His TvT is unbeatable. His TvP is always stellar.
He's the best all-around Terran. I was first introduced to the Progaming Scene when a friend of mine showed me Pimpest Plays 2004. My favorite players became Nal_rA, Kingdom, and BoxeR. Then it was BoxeR. Then I found out he was not what he used to be and it became NaDa. Then I found out NaDa is such a predictable player and I found XellOs. The Perfect Terran. Shoot, only he's worthy of such a name.
I don't know if "best all around" is the phrase you are looking for. Would "most balanced" be more suiting? If yes, I agree, if no then I point at Midas as "best all around" right now and NaDa as "best all around" all time.
I've always liked sync due to his impressive timing and micro in TvZ/TvT. He had this unpredictable spur of intuitive control throughout the game, his clock was unbelievable. Sadly, he is never mentioned for his OSL win, has gone into a slump, now into a mediocre player, but he still is my favorite ktf terran T.T Also his inconsistency rivals Goodfriend, I bet he has gotten the slump from him as well -_-;
On September 08 2006 12:38 Wasabi wrote:his only real flaw is his limited grasp for strategy, although all he really has to do is improve what he already does.
I really disagree. Nada is so fuckin awesomely smart. What other terran Vulture Drops, SK Terrans, and 2 Fact Rushes quite like Nada? Hell he even TvP 2 fact rushed Zergs.. Nada just didn't have the flash to be with Boxer but I think he is as close to perfection ever for gamers during his peak. All around.
On September 08 2006 12:49 QuietIdiot wrote: I've always liked sync due to his impressive timing and micro in TvZ/TvT. He had this unpredictable spur of intuitive control throughout the game, his clock was unbelievable. Sadly, he is never mentioned for his OSL win, has gone into a slump, now into a mediocre player, but he still is my favorite ktf terran T.T Also his inconsistency rivals Goodfriend, I bet he has gotten the slump from him as well -_-;
Sync has been slumping since way before GF joined KTF. ^_^
Agree 100% with Kingdom. Kingdumb was one of the greatest moves ever, and I'm not being sarcastic - he was just so blindly full of aggression and pounding hatred that he couldn't do his opening proxy right. Kingdom empitomizes aggression, in an age where everyone seems to confuse "micro" with aggression - it's not; aggression is pure old fashioned all out mutilation through whatever resource you have on hand in the early game. Kingdom doesn't micro as part of his technical game, he micros because he pours so much hatred and raw power into his units that their will to live is insane.
Reach was only very briefly the mantoss. Now he's hairtoss. I swear there are more comments made about his looks and hair than his actual playing ability (which sux). Kingdom, on the other hand, will send you straight to hell. He's the truest source of old school glory which is still preserved - not through fan-boy obsessionism, ala every other remaining "old school" player (who have since abandoned old schoolism), but through pure hatred which keeps alive the spirit of an age long gone only with a crazed obsession for more blood.
My favourite protoss player is ForU since long time (probably most of you didn't even hear about him at that time - i think it was even before that famous 48gate game vs Nada, but people with better memory can confirm this). Being a random player, and trying to play unstandard, I was always inclined to make creative stuff. I downloaded a VOD of Foru playing vs Yellow (in my 56k days, took me a whole night - the telephone had acceptable price only from 10pm to 7am so I had to connect to the internet through the night - which pretty much fucked up my biorithm for a life). At that time I was thinking about the usefullness of Maelstrom, and Foru beat Yellow in that game maelstroming his mutas. At that time this spell almost never used in progaming (not that's widely used now, but still). I also like Reach, because he was nice to me when we met, Kingdom because of his first game in the OSL final vs Nal_Ra (especially the feedback usage) and because I was impressed by his 1st person vods. Lol, in the end I'll enumerate all the pro-tosses: I like Anytime too, because his solid pvt and the way he beat the zergs in his group when he won the OSL.
My favourite terran is Silent_Control because his cheesing/timing rushing style was pretty similar to mine, and I'm still in absolute love in his game vs Reach on Nostalgia in the OSL semis (the first one, not the big mine explosion one). I also like Boxer and Xellos, because ... oh well, they are Boxer and Xellos. I was impressed by Boxer's and iloveoov's 1st preson vods.
Even if he's not a progamer, my favourite zerg is Blackman, because some time ago I downloaded a reppack of him and started to watch the first game vs some terran. He made a drop, and I was paying attention to the micro they made, and suddely I looked at the minimap and ALL THE FUCKING MAP WAS HIS, while microing. But most of you probably know this phenomenon, so I won't go in details. If I'd had to pick a progamer I'd pick IPX, because of his solid play, and similarly scarry macro abilities. His 1st person vods are also beautiful. July's micro is also nice to watch, and his proxy hatchery vs iloveoov was also awesome.
Personally my favorite would have to be hands down BoxeR. The man is not afraid to do anything it takes and has been on the pimpest plays list more than any other player. the man comes up with new and refreshing ways to deal with things and does not stick to the conformed way of playing a certain MU.I love him for his boldness and probably one of the only players to perfectly use the medic. All that aside than man basicly invented most gosu micro for terran, He is the one that revolutionized the game over and over again, and he is the one that will probably stand out even after he has left the scene.
My second favorite player would be Testie because he is original and is one of the only top progamers u see that uses more than their straight up matchups. Random at that level just gets him a tip o the hat from me
For zerg; would go for Chojja. Hes been here for a while and he has a very good micro, his muta-lings are extremely precise.
For Protoss; I would go for Grrrr..., even though he dosent play anymore. His reavers were legendary, and i guess the game on bladestorm vs zerglee pretty much showed that he still knew how to play even when he has passed his prime, and could still do some pretty unusual stuff to throw is enemy off(not that maelstrom had never been used in PvZ, but it was generally regarded as a waste before that game.)
For Terran; Boxer... and thats all i got to say about that.
TERRAN Midas[gm] - I've loved him since he went by he name DDanGG, and I really enjoy his Terran (BOXER is great bcuz of his pimp-ness) but my favourite Terran is by far Midas.
PROTOSS Bisu[Shield] - I can't get enough of this player. He's my overall favourite player of all time. After looking at his reppack, i was like omfg this guy is really GOSU..... And now he's owning everyone up v-_-v. (I wish he was good manner guild member though :p)
ZERG Savior[gm] - The only zerg that I actually enjoy watching and I always hope that he wins his games. Besides IPX i just enjoy FP Views of July's muta-micro. Too me he's the best player in the world atm.
On September 08 2006 09:59 Guybrush wrote: I have three idols for each race even though I like pretty much all the top progamers except GF, Mumyung, Rainbow, JJu, ZergMan, and Doggi.
Basically players with great execution are fun to watch and I also consider myself being more micro/macro oriented than strategy oriented. It's art watching perfect micro and macro at the same time. These players are weaker strategywise, but stand out and make up for it with pure skills in the two fundamental traits this game has.
For Protoss its Park Jung Suk aka [Oops]Reach, because of his inhuman micro/macro. His use of templars in shuttles are absolutely stunning in PvT. He's the only Protoss to have 3-0ed Oov, and the only player he has a serious jinx against is Nada. Mostly got credit for his macro before, but he is responsible for the noisiest crowd ever when he maelstromed 30-40 devourers against Chojja in MSL.
For Terran its Lee Yun Yeol aka [ReD]NaDa, also because of his extreme micro/macro. His SKTerran is matched by none, and he's the most accomplished gamer in history. Also his matchups are very even, and he pulls of pimp moves all the time. For example his 5 dropship 5 different places against Jy on Luna, and also his excellent vulture micro against Gorush in MSL.
For Zerg its Park Sung Jun aka JulyZerg, yet again because of devastating micro/macro. He's the pioneer of Zerg, starting the golden age of Zerg when he became the first Zerg to ever win one of the major korean leagues. His mutamicro is ridiculous, and he has stopped a large number of crazy bunker rushes with worshipworthy dronemicro. The one against Nada in Snickers comes to mind, but also the one against Boxer in his highlight video. I've never been as happy for a player winning an OSL final as I were watching the 5th game against GF in EVER2 OSL. Not only because I absolutely didnt want GF winning, but the way he UNDRESSED GF with his mutas. Im not sure ANY other Zerg player would have won in a situation like that.
Other players I like are Boxer for having the best micro ever, Oov for having the best macro ever, Anytime for his ballsy strats, rA for his fantastic Sair/Reaver, and Sync for his sparky sunkenmelting.
whoa talk about taking the words out of my mouth, i agree 99% except that i actually like some of the ones you dislike, too bad they dont do good in individual leagues
XELLOS. Hes just plain bad ass. Remeber the olympus osl when he owned Boxer 3-0? They took the polls and he was like a 3.5 to 1 underdog. He remains so expressionless whether he wins or loses. His ability to keep cool makes him such a scary player. Unlike Midas who cried like a little bitch after getting owned by Savior.
HOT-Forever.. He was the first Zerg I saw that really impressed me. I watched his games religiously for the first couple years of my following progaming. Was pretty sad when he retired but of course he hadnt been performing well for bout 1-2 years before that TT
Also Yellow and Nal_Ra for various reasons. I get pretty worked up before I watch their pro matches ;d
On September 08 2006 05:58 Plexa wrote: ...but PuSan continually proves himself to me as a 1st rate progamer...
sorry who? I'm pretty sure Pusan continually proves himself to suck at PvZ and chokes in big games.
show me that i'm wrong...
Pusan vs JJu in PL -> total rape although im going to try and not be bias and agree that he hasnt been preforming well as of late... ever since his 0-3'ing of July (and i still belevie there is not a protoss that could have beat july that day) People also forget that he 3-0'd Casy- who won the next starleague
ive seen alot of pusan's pvz (infact one of the reasons why i liked him so much was that he actually beat zergs in his rep pack, unlike any other protoss including reach) and his slump recently hasnt been good for his record... but meh.. im a fanboy for life
On September 08 2006 06:09 YoiChiBow wrote: A couple years back I was a random player; well, I think I just picked random matchups out of the hat depending on whatever tickled my fancy at the moment. I had also just switched over to Lost Temple-only from BGH with roughly 70~80 apm and I was frequently playing 1v1's in #motel on East server.
But anyways, one night a guy showed me a replay of SlayerS_`BoxeR`.... it made me want to change to terran on the spot. The funny part was that the replay was corrupt too lol... but I still saw this one move that made me pick terran from that point on.
The replay was BoxeR vs Britney Spears on Lost Temple. Britney 9 pooled and BoxeR countered it with a makeshift wall. (Flying barracks over 2 scvs and 1 marine) I had never encountered such creativity in Starcraft like this before. It was genius; such a brilliant move.
I harassed the guy that showed me the replay to show all of SlayerS_`BoxeR`'s replays that night. I think I saw all of his released replays in that single night. O_O
BritneySpairs is my friend, and i remember him showing me that game before it was released.. he was one of the greatest NZL bw players of all time; certainly the most famous due to that game.. although now hes pretty much retired and is xbox user... got a new car the other day too.. its pretty sweet...
sAviOr he is the reason i play zerg ! I was a terran user oov was by favorit player but i playd zerg on 2v2! I was a noob and terran i realy hard micro I was whandering what rase to play terran or zerg ! and one day I so the savior vs oov reps 2-0 raped and then savior vs reach 2-0 and he playd so perfect omg! from that day on i play zerg and love this guy! at the time he was not so whell know he was rooki zerg! I just knew he will be a good player and now he just ownez! He plays just so good some times hi is like a map haker the game vs oov when he so the proxi rak, the games vs midas the prozi rak 2 and the prozi facury! he just haves excelent timing and his macro and micro are good ! he just plays PERFECT! hmm my nick is forom him 2 :D 'the Maestro'
- Yellow for his aggresive style play - Is[city] im not sure about the nick ^^ he is the first gosu zerg i have see - JulyZerg for his Sauron tech like
Terran
- Boxer i love seeing his vods because the public are so exited , and i have follow him at his start
On September 09 2006 07:33 Rodiel wrote: Yellow[name] and Yellow are the same player ^^ ?
nope YellOw[Name] plays with OGN Spakyz, [NC]..YellOw with KTF Magic NS. YellOw[Name] chose his name because he was/is a huge [NC]..YellOw fan. Different people
Actually you're a fgt and Yellow Name is the greatest new blood ZvT to come out since Savior. Yellow is a badass too but Yellow is Yellow. He will be the greatest pro-gamer with shit for macro.
On September 09 2006 04:18 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: I'm inexplicably drawn to Casy
Cuz Casy is adorable. Has the greatest micro. And he floats like cotton candy and stings like carbonation. He's too sweet to dislike.
Bisu[Shield] without a doubt hes like a merge of Pusan/Anytime/Ra all in one hes just perfect. He plays a macro game but has one of the most insanest timings I have ever seen. Hes like the toss I always wanted to come out into leagues. Ra always upsetted me losing with proxys and anytime/pusan doing the same thing. Bisu plays a much better game and hes a monster!
KTF Fighting !!! Much said about this amazing team, but once again... THEY ARE AWESOME (Reach,YellOw, Nal_rA, ChoJJa) But what they lack is a good Terran player(so [ReD]NaDa please come back) and they will win the Proleague =)
As for me my favorite is [Oops]Reach because he is in the slump now and I'm trying to support him as much as possible (if serious - he is #1 Protoss for me even more than rA because of his SICK PvT macro and 4th game vs Boxer in the finals of SKY 2002)
I'm a Protoss player, so Reach FTW! My favorite gamer of them all however, no matter how cliche it may be, is of course, Lim YoHwan, the Emperor. SlayerS_`BoxeR` MADE this game what it is. His innovations, strategies, and general gameplay are unmatched. Like in his Farewell Video, his only equal is himself. With over..what...400? career wins, BoxeR is number 1. Always. With Reach in close 2nd, of course.
Lee Yoonyeol. AKA [ReD]NaDa. One day, about 4 years ago, I took a break from my moneymapping to watch some "dumb replay on a dumb map" that a friend had downloaded. It was Nada vrs Nazgul @ LT 6vrs9. From that moment on I was dedicated to Terran, and to playing REAL Starcraft. His insance macro amazed me, and his ruthless, intense style kept me watching his replays for years. I especially loved his SKterram style TvZ, it was something very few Terrans could do back in the day. However, Boxer is also my favourite player; NaDa and Boxer are tied. Nada got me into Starcraft, and Boxer kept me playing. I loved Nada's steamrolling-tornado Terran style (in TvP and TvZ) and Boxer's micro with vultures and mnm is captivating.
Terran Nada: basically because watching him play he seems like such a solid, perfect player, he has an overall 'power' feel to him and his control and speed is beyond human. Protoss: Nal_ra: he knows every aspect of the game every single fine detail of it, and he uses this to his advantage.
and i actually dislike oov, simply because i don't care much for macro play and generally when i watch newer replays his macro isn't all it's cracked up to be, often hitting 1k, i don't understand why nada isn't considered the macro king.. meh
- Yellow for his aggresive style play - Is[city] im not sure about the nick ^^ he is the first gosu zerg i have see - JulyZerg for his Sauron tech like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gcBqcstXV8
Terran
- Boxer i love seeing his vods because the public are so exited , and i have follow him at his start
i am loving Nal_rA, yes? there are some pros who are good b/c through practice (99%), and some players who just have a certain genius for the game. rA is one. parallel lines recall vs GF. raid assault pvz vs July. savior is another (has anyone ever noticed how he always seems to have just the right mix in zvzs and how he always seems to have slightly more mins than his opponent? answer: drone micro OTL)
also, although he has his detractors, iloveoov is just a straight up man. tvp, ok i'll plant 2 tanks and a turret and resource whore, and when you come in, i'll have 8 factories just in time to pump units to defend your puny rush then i'll own you, and in the meanwhile i'll also make another hidden expo. tvz i'm going to 2 rax but make a CC after 1 marine (before FE wasn't standard). shit like that = balls of steel
I remember the first time I ever understood probe micro. I was with Teroru, and we had just smoked a huge amount of pot and beat the original bubble bobble. I had my laptop over and we watched a rA FPVOD. I couldn't believe what I was seeing at the beginning of the game, where he microed every probe to the closest possible mineral patch. It went on for ages, and was just ridiculous to watch. In my mind, he will always be the smartest player ever.
On September 09 2006 23:16 Manifesto7 wrote: I remember the first time I ever understood probe micro. I was with Teroru, and we had just smoked a huge amount of pot and beat the original bubble bobble. I had my laptop over and we watched a rA FPVOD. I couldn't believe what I was seeing at the beginning of the game, where he microed every probe to the closest possible mineral patch. It went on for ages, and was just ridiculous to watch. In my mind, he will always be the smartest player ever.
Did you not send your probes to the closest mineral patches or what? o_O
Also for some reason I initially read Teroru as Terato, and thought you were hanging out with him for some reason.
lol. No, I mean when he was mining, he would change the path of each probe so the closest one was ALWAYS being mined. Most people split their workers to the four closest mineral patches and just leave them to mine the same one. He was constantly changing their paths to optimize efficiency.
On September 09 2006 23:28 Manifesto7 wrote: lol. No, I mean when he was mining, he would change the path of each probe so the closest one was ALWAYS being mined. Most people split their workers to the four closest mineral patches and just leave them to mine the same one. He was constantly changing their paths to optimize efficiency.
Oh ok, it just reminded me of when somebody a while ago (I want to say Mynock, Mensrea, or Bill307, but I really don't remember who) commented on how )Is(City split his first four workers to the furthest spots, and it was sort of representative of why he was never really successful in progaming.
Also, I just saw this:
On September 08 2006 19:51 _PulSe_ wrote: Testie [...] is one of the only top progamers u see that uses more than their straight up matchups. Random at that level just gets him a tip o the hat from me
o_O (and yes, I start at the end of threads and read them backwards )
yellow... argueably the second best pro of all time, his micro is just sick, i start yelling at the monitor when he does some stupid shi.t ... when he wins i go all happy and stuff, when he loses i don't feel like doing anything that day... i never post here ( maybe i posted one more time long ago and it was in a yellow related thread ) but when i saw this thread i just had to post and show my apreciation to him :D. ofc my words do not even begin to reflect the great player that he is. i remember the games vs cloud, he lost the first 2, but he looked so calm and like he knew what he was going to do, i never saw him panic, he ended up winning 3-2 and lol cloud was steaming ), games like those really reflect what yellow is really capable of . [NC]...YellOw was is and will be the best zerg out there hands down. Hong Jin ho FIGHTING ! ps: i watched on youtube a documentary about him, 40 min long in korean, i didn't understand shi.t but i really enoyed it xD.
On September 10 2006 01:53 fallingdream wrote: yellow... argueably the second best pro of all time, his micro is just sick, i start yelling at the monitor when he does some stupid shi.t ... when he wins i go all happy and stuff, when he loses i don't feel like doing anything that day... i never post here ( maybe i posted one more time long ago and it was in a yellow related thread ) but when i saw this thread i just had to post and show my apreciation to him :D. ofc my words do not even begin to reflect the great player that he is. i remember the games vs cloud, he lost the first 2, but he looked so calm and like he knew what he was going to do, i never saw him panic, he ended up winning 3-2 and lol cloud was steaming ), games like those really reflect what yellow is really capable of . [NC]...YellOw was is and will be the best zerg out there hands down. Hong Jin ho FIGHTING ! ps: i watched on youtube a documentary about him, 40 min long in korean, i didn't understand shi.t but i really enoyed it xD.
lol i watched that documentary too, it was cool so much inside footage
EPT
(if serious - he is #1 Protoss for me even more than rA because of his SICK PvT macro and 4th game vs Boxer in the finals of SKY 2002)
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