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negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
October 26 2013 00:21 GMT
#381
On October 26 2013 04:55 purakushi wrote:
Heck, if they need some sponsorship money. We should all pull a TL donation for this. >_<

screw it, we should just donate anyway


we should actually do this. it's always good to let BW players know that the foreign audience cares.
Serpest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States603 Posts
October 26 2013 00:44 GMT
#382
Sort of a "Jin Air OSL" but "TL Forum Dwellers' Proleague"?
A person that attempts to diagnose themselves has a fool for a doctor and a bigger fool for a patient.
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1707 Posts
October 26 2013 03:20 GMT
#383
On October 26 2013 09:21 negativedge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 04:55 purakushi wrote:
Heck, if they need some sponsorship money. We should all pull a TL donation for this. >_<

screw it, we should just donate anyway


we should actually do this. it's always good to let BW players know that the foreign audience cares.


count me in if this is going to happen.
iloveby.SlayerS_BunkiE[Shield]
Phyanketto
Profile Joined September 2011
United States505 Posts
October 26 2013 04:30 GMT
#384
On October 26 2013 09:44 Serpest wrote:
Sort of a "Jin Air OSL" but "TL Forum Dwellers' Proleague"?

Well, we didn't sponsor it. Last SSL was the ItemBay SSL.
세 가지 제어
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2585 Posts
October 26 2013 05:06 GMT
#385
Ohhh Snappp... Please happen = D
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
miercat
Profile Joined November 2011
394 Posts
October 26 2013 05:06 GMT
#386
O_O !!! SONIC YOU ARE THE BEST.

On a related note, if it turns out that there is a viable structure in place, it would be good to have FPL back again.
L1ghtning
Profile Joined July 2013
Sweden353 Posts
October 26 2013 07:08 GMT
#387
No Scan for SKT? Ex-progamer Scan. It was all a lie!1!1!

BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
October 26 2013 07:37 GMT
#388
On October 26 2013 16:08 L1ghtning wrote:
No Scan for SKT? Ex-progamer Scan. It was all a lie!1!1!


lol
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
October 26 2013 09:00 GMT
#389
On October 26 2013 12:20 SlayerS_BunkiE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 09:21 negativedge wrote:
On October 26 2013 04:55 purakushi wrote:
Heck, if they need some sponsorship money. We should all pull a TL donation for this. >_<

screw it, we should just donate anyway


we should actually do this. it's always good to let BW players know that the foreign audience cares.


count me in if this is going to happen.

I can't give much but yeah I would be willing to donate to make this happen. We wouldn't need to give much if enough of us gave something.
icyF
Profile Joined June 2008
Finland305 Posts
October 26 2013 09:14 GMT
#390
Skimming through the posts it seems like many of us would be willing to chip in if this were to happen. How much would you be willing to put out to make this come true?

Poll: How much would you be willing to donate?

$11-20 (13)
 
37%

$1-10 (9)
 
26%

Maybe a nickle...at most (5)
 
14%

$20-50 (5)
 
14%

$50+ (3)
 
9%

35 total votes

Your vote: How much would you be willing to donate?

(Vote): Maybe a nickle...at most
(Vote): $1-10
(Vote): $11-20
(Vote): $20-50
(Vote): $50+


wangjj0618
Profile Joined October 2013
1 Post
October 26 2013 09:38 GMT
#391
fighting!from china PLU
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-26 10:07:54
October 26 2013 10:05 GMT
#392
I'll offer £25/$50 to get the ball rolling. It shouldn't be to hard to set up a way of donating.

edit: Don't be afraid to offer less. Every little helps.
herozour
Profile Joined September 2013
142 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-26 10:09:33
October 26 2013 10:08 GMT
#393
I can give 20 bucks. But to killer or sea or bisu personally
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
October 26 2013 10:15 GMT
#394
On October 26 2013 19:08 herozour wrote:
I can give 20 bucks. But to killer or sea or bisu personally

None of them need it. Bisu and Sea especially are earning big bucks on Afreeca.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
October 26 2013 10:18 GMT
#395
On October 26 2013 19:08 herozour wrote:
I can give 20 bucks.


whoa, did you just contribute something to the TL community?



But to killer or sea or bisu personally


oh, nevermind...
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
October 26 2013 10:28 GMT
#396
On October 26 2013 19:15 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 19:08 herozour wrote:
I can give 20 bucks. But to killer or sea or bisu personally

None of them need it. Bisu and Sea especially are earning big bucks on Afreeca.


yeah I mean whats the point, if you wanted to you can do it when they are streaming, just gift them balloons.

we're discussing donating for a tournament not players individually.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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herozour
Profile Joined September 2013
142 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-26 10:31:11
October 26 2013 10:30 GMT
#397
Hmm I guess I could do it but what would it be used for anyway?
As for balloons I need to go register somewhere where there is no english and that's all hassle.
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
October 26 2013 11:06 GMT
#398
On October 26 2013 19:30 herozour wrote:
Hmm I guess I could do it but what would it be used for anyway?
As for balloons I need to go register somewhere where there is no english and that's all hassle.
Presumably to donate you have to give credit card information and the like. Not a lot of people are going to be to happy doing that when they can’t understand what the web page says.

Loads of things get cloud sourced today so it must be pretty simple to make a secure English language team Liquid donates fund. The problem would be firstly whether enough people are willing to donate to actually make a significant contribution for Sonic and secondly if for some reason it didn’t happen we probably wouldn’t be able to get money back. But I guess if that was the case the money could just go towards the next SRT/SSL. I wouldn’t be to unhappy with that.

On October 26 2013 19:15 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 19:08 herozour wrote:
I can give 20 bucks. But to killer or sea or bisu personally

None of them need it. Bisu and Sea especially are earning big bucks on Afreeca.
This is going to be an intrinsic problem with the way the amateur scene is likely to function. People only want to watch and give money to the old legends and the guys currently kicking ass. There is very little support for players below this level. People that aren’t say the top 20 players aren’t going to get many people on their streams and aren’t going to get many donations so probably will have a tougher time making a living from playing Broodwar. I guess there will all ways be amateurs coming through who play for fun and just want the chance to play against the famous players. But if they can’t make enough money to make a career from it then they’re not going to play enough to get up to the level.

The way the old structure worked the teams where what ensured the new players could come through and get enough playing time.
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
October 26 2013 11:08 GMT
#399
Although from the sounds of things the B teamers didn't get paid well/at all even in the old system, at least this way they're getting some money, and if they get results too then they'll get more viewers and more balloons.
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Hoender
Profile Joined March 2011
South Africa381 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-26 12:20:56
October 26 2013 12:16 GMT
#400
On October 26 2013 20:06 Greg_J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 19:30 herozour wrote:
Hmm I guess I could do it but what would it be used for anyway?
As for balloons I need to go register somewhere where there is no english and that's all hassle.
Presumably to donate you have to give credit card information and the like. Not a lot of people are going to be to happy doing that when they can’t understand what the web page says.

Loads of things get cloud sourced today so it must be pretty simple to make a secure English language team Liquid donates fund. The problem would be firstly whether enough people are willing to donate to actually make a significant contribution for Sonic and secondly if for some reason it didn’t happen we probably wouldn’t be able to get money back. But I guess if that was the case the money could just go towards the next SRT/SSL. I wouldn’t be to unhappy with that.

Show nested quote +
On October 26 2013 19:15 Ryo wrote:
On October 26 2013 19:08 herozour wrote:
I can give 20 bucks. But to killer or sea or bisu personally

None of them need it. Bisu and Sea especially are earning big bucks on Afreeca.
This is going to be an intrinsic problem with the way the amateur scene is likely to function. People only want to watch and give money to the old legends and the guys currently kicking ass. There is very little support for players below this level. People that aren’t say the top 20 players aren’t going to get many people on their streams and aren’t going to get many donations so probably will have a tougher time making a living from playing Broodwar. I guess there will all ways be amateurs coming through who play for fun and just want the chance to play against the famous players. But if they can’t make enough money to make a career from it then they’re not going to play enough to get up to the level.

The way the old structure worked the teams where what ensured the new players could come through and get enough playing time.

People could also just donate to the Snipealot twitch stream, who is already giving most of his donations (except equipment upgrades and maintenance) to Sonic via Paypal as I understand it. Donating money to Sonic is probably the easiest and best solution to support the Korean BW scene at the moment.
Die ou swepe sê: "daar's 'n raat vir elke kwaal," maar watse pil kou jy as die donker jou kom haal?
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