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JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
October 26 2013 13:20 GMT
#401
If a fundraiser were come to be, any chance of getting live english coverage of the event, that would be sick.
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 08:54:20
October 26 2013 16:54 GMT
#402
Sonic just shared this on FB. As you read it, please keep in mind that my Korean skills are not only not bad to begin with but also somewhat rusty and I'm doing this in a bit of a hurry.

+ Show Spoiler [korean] +
프로리그 한번 해볼까요!!!!!!!?
실패를 해도 남는게 있을것이고.
선수 섭외는 월요일부터 본격적으로 해서 프로리그 끝나자마자 9차 개인스타리그 진행 하는걸로 해서
오랜만에 같은 팀 선수들의 팀워크도 맞춰보고
동시에 8번째팀 소닉 올스타가 아니라
소닉팀으로 출전시켜 아마추어 양성도 하고
에이스들은 자연스럽게 9차 스타리그 출전도 시키고 외국에서도 엄청난 조회수와 댓글로 관심이 폭발적입니다.
겨울방학전까지만 프로리그 일정 잡아보고 끝나자마자 일주일 텀 두고 9차 스타리그 바로 들어가는걸로 해서 오랜만에 프로리그의 느낌 나게끔 기획 해보겠습니다!!!!!!!!!
댓글로 여러분들의 생각은 어떤지 댓글 달아주세요


해외 팀리퀴드의 반응

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=433286

뉴스도 보셧는지 모르겠지만

소닉 프로리그 뉴스 http://sports.news.naver.com/sports/index.nhn?category=e_sports&ctg=news&mod=read&office_id=347&article_id=0000046681


전 CJ팀 진영화,윤찬희,전태규,노재상,한상봉
전 SKT팀 최호선,김택용,임홍규,이승석,박세정
전 MBC팀 박지호,염보성,김재훈,지영훈,박수범,김기훈
전 STX팀 철구,변현제,김윤중,조일장,김경효
전 KT 팀 김태영,박성균,김규회,배성흠,한재선
전 화승 팀 하늘,구성훈,유진우,공민창,이창우,박준오
전 삼성 박성준,허영무,차명환,노강호,샤이니
소닉팀 (멤버모집끝 선별중)


Shall we try doing Proleague one time!!!!!!!?
Even if this fails it will be beneficial...
Starting monday I will earnestly begin confirming players for the Proleague and when that ends we can progress to the 9th Individual StarLeague. It's been a long time since we could observe teamwork of the players like this.

At the same time, the 8th Team wouldn't be Sonic All Star, but rather amateurs would participate as Sonic's team and train so that the aces will then naturally participate in the 9th Starleague.

Furthermore, the interest overseas is seriously explosive as seen in the comments and hits (this thread).
Although it's before winter break, let's try to squeeze in a Proleague schedule and as soon as that ends proceed straight to 9th StarLeague just after a week's break. It's been a long time since I planned to make something like a Proleague happen!!!!!!!!!

Please share what your thoughts are on this topic in the comments.

Overseas Teamliquid's reaction
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=433286

I wonder if they've seen this news too.
Sonic Proleague News: http://sports.news.naver.com/sports/index.nhn?category=e_sports&ctg=news&mod=read&office_id=347&article_id=0000046681

ex CJ Movie, Mong,Zeus ,Cola,kwanro
ex SKT sSak,Bisu,larva,s2,pure
ex MBC pusan,Sea,jaehoon,starcue,tyson,lazy
ex STX terror,mini,shuttle,hero,notice
ex KT ample,mind,hint,hm[arnc],starry
ex Hwaseung sky,hiya,beast,kkong,saber,killer
ex Samsung KHAN zergman,jangbi,Great,Hi,Shinee
Sonic Team - currently finishing recruiting amateurs


I'm not entirely sure about some points, like the level of commitment he's showing but it seems he's pretty set on making something happen before SSL9. In my opinion it could be something like Snipealot said before, a smaller cup of sorts. I believe he refers to it as "something of a proleague feel". So let's show some more explosions of interest? ^^

https://www.facebook.com/sogoodtt/posts/360251464109219 link to FB post.

On October 27 2013 03:05 snipealot wrote:
You did motivate sonic yes

It's up to the players now. Sonic will start contacting and confirming players from monday, set a schedule and host a proleague, or rather a team-tournament. It'll be a short one, I don't expect round-robin. Most probably it'll be a bracket system starting from ro8 and maybe having the finals(+perhaps ro4) offline.
En Taro Violet
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
October 26 2013 17:00 GMT
#403
Anything similar to the 1st Sinbal Farm Team Battle would be great. It's also a very reasonable start. It's better to have something smaller succeed and build up more hype for something bigger. I'm looking forward to anything Sonic can do.
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Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
October 26 2013 17:04 GMT
#404
On October 27 2013 02:00 Epoxide wrote:
Anything similar to the 1st Sinbal Farm Team Battle would be great. It's also a very reasonable start. It's better to have something smaller succeed and build up more hype for something bigger. I'm looking forward to anything Sonic can do.

Better overview copied from Legacy Event Matches:
+ Show Spoiler +

First Sinbal Farm Team Battle:

2012-01-13
Terror All-Stars vs Mong Rank (I don't know what this is, some of Mong's friends I guess?)
5-2

(Z)Terror (P)Pusan
(Z)Terror (T)Sexy
(Z)Terror (T)Mong
(P)Minus)Eagle (T)Mong
(P)Minus)Eagle (Z)ZergMaN
(T)Shinee (Z)ZergMaN
(T)Shinee (Z)Neo.G

Erase Clemson (???) vs Bread Afreeca (???)
5-4

(Z)force[Name] (Z)mahell
(Z)force[Name] (T)NtO`Smile
(P)Sea.KH (T)NtO`Smile
(P)Candy (T)NtO`Smile
(T)Candy (P)Sky
(Z)Just (P)Sky
(T)HiyA (P)Sky
(T)HiyA (P)BackHo
(T)HiyA (Z)Snail

2012-01-14
Erase Clemson (???) vs Mong Rank (same notation as last time)
5-3

(Z)force[Name] (Z)Neo.G
(Z)force[Name] (Z)ZergMaN
(Z)force[Name] (T)Sexy
(Z)force[Name] (T)Mong
(Z)force[Name] (P)Pusan
(Z)BJ Sonic (P)Pusan
(P)Sea.KH (P)Pusan
(T)HiyA (P)Pusan

Bread Afreeca (???) vs Terror All-Stars
5-1

(Z)mahell (T)Ample
(Z)mahell (T)Shinee
(Z)mahell (P)LYH
(P)BackHo (P)LYH
(P)BackHo (Z)Terror
(P)BackHo (P)Minus)Eagle

2012-01-15
Terror All-Stars vs Erase Clemson (???)
5-3

(T)Shinee (Z)Just
(T)Shinee (P)Candy
(P)Minus)Eagle (T)Candy
(P)Minus)Eagle (Z)force[Name]
(T)Ample (Z)force[Name]
(T)Ample (P)Sea.KH
(T)Ample (Z)Apink
(Z)Terror (Z)Apink

Bread Afreeca (???) vs Mong Rank (same notation as before)
5-4

(P)Sky (Z)ZergMaN
(T)NtO`Smile (Z)ZergMaN
(P)Anytime (Z)ZergMaN
(P)Anytime (T)Mong
(Z)mahell (T)Mong
(Z)mahell (T)Sexy
(P)BackHo (T)Sexy
(P)BackHo (P)Pusan
(P)BackHo (Z)StarCue

2012-01-16
Final:
Erase Clemson (???) vs Bread Afreeca (???)
4-6

(T)Candy (Z)mahell
(T)Candy (P)Anytime
(T)Candy (P)BackHo
(Z)Just (P)BackHo
(P)Sea.KH (P)BackHo
(P)Sea.KH (Z)Killer
(T)HiyA (Z)Killer
(T)RuBy (Z)Killer
(T)RuBy (P)Sky
(Z)force[Name] (P)Sky

Korean:
+ Show Spoiler +

★소닉 팀배1회 개막전 5:5매치★
-개막전 1차전 장애철구VS몽랑캐-
1경기:철구Z(승)vs박지호P(패)
2경기:철구Z(승)vs이영웅T(패)
3경기:철구Z(패)vs몽네임T(승)
4경기:진웅P(승)vs몽네임T(패)
5경기:진웅P(패)vs박성준Z(승)
6경기:샤이니T(승)VS박성준Z(패)
7경기:샤이니T(승)VS빡건Z(패)

◈최종결과◈
장애철구팀의 5:2스코어로 승리!!!

★소닉 팀배1회 개막전 5:5매치★
-개막전 2차전 소거슨VS빵프리카-
1경기:포스네임Z(승)VS마헬Z(패)
2경기:포스네임Z(패)VS스마일T(승)
3경기:손경훈P(패)VS스마일T(승)
4경기:캔디P(승)VS스마일T(패)
5경기:캔디T(패)VS하늘P(승)
6경기:임두성Z(패)VS하늘P(승)
7경기:구성훈T(승)VS하늘P(패)
8경기:구성훈T(승)VS손찬웅P(패)
9경기:구성훈T(승)VS장영환Z(패)

◈최종결과◈
소거슨팀 5:4의 스코어로 승리!!!

●2일차 1차전 소거슨VS몽랑캐●
1.포스네임Z(승)VS빡건Z(패)
2.포스네임Z(승)VS박성준Z(패)
3.포스네임Z(승)VS이영웅T(패)
4.포스네임Z(승)VS몽군T(패)
5.포스네임Z(패)V박지호P(승)
6.소닉Z(패)VS박지호P(승)
7.손경훈T(패)VS박지호P(승)
8.구성훈T(승)VS박지호P(패)

☞최종결과☜
소거슨팀[5]勝 : 몽랑캐팀[3]敗

●2일차 2차전 빵프리카VS장애철구●
1.마헬Z(승)VSt사신테란T(패)
2.마헬Z(승)VS샤이니T(패)
3.마헬Z(패)VS이기호P(승)
4.손찬웅P(승)VS이기호P(패)
5.손찬웅P(승)VS철구Z(패)
6.손찬웅P(승)VS진웅P(패)

☞최종결과☜
빵프리카팀[5] 勝: 장애철구팀[1]敗

★소닉 팀배1회 3일차 5:5매치★
-3일차 1차전 장애철구VS소거슨-
1.샤이니T(승)VS임두성Z(패)
2.샤이니T(패)VS캔디P(승)
3.진웅P(승)VS캔디T(패)
4.진웅P(패)VS포스네임Z(승)
5.사신테란T(승)VS포스네임Z(패)
6.사신테란T(승)VS손경훈P(패)
7.사신테란T(패)VS남도일Z(승)
8.철구Z(승)VS남도일(패)
장애철구5:3소거슨

소닉 팀배1회 3일차 5:5매치★
-3일차 2차전 빵프리카VS몽랑캐-
1.하늘P(패)VS박성준Z(승)
2.스마일T(패)VS박성준Z(승)
3.오영종P(승)VS박성준Z(패)
4.오영종P(패)VS몽네임T(승)
5.마헬Z(승)VS몽네임T(패)
6.마헬Z(패)VS이영웅T(승)
7.손찬웅P(승)VS이영웅T(패)
8.손찬웅P(승)VS박지호P(패)
9.손찬웅P(승)VS지영훈Z(패)

빵프리카5:4몽랑캐[

★소닉 팀배1회 결승전 6:6매치★
◀◀◀소거슨VS빵프리카▶▶▶
1경기 : 캔디T(승)VS마헬Z(패)
2경기 : 캔디T(승)VS오영종P(패)
3경기 : 캔디T(패)VS손찬웅P(승)
4경기 : 임두성Z(패)VS손찬웅P(승)
5경기 : 손경훈P(승)VS손찬웅P(패)
6경기 : 손경훈P(패)VS박준오Z(승)
7경기 : 구성훈T(패)VS박준오Z(승)
8경기 : 민찬기T(승)VS박준오Z(패)
9경기 : 민찬기T(패)VS하늘P(승)
10경기 : 포스네임Z(패)VS하늘P(승)

===========최종경기결과============
◆소거슨팀[4]敗 : 빵프리카팀[6]勝◆

LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
October 26 2013 17:04 GMT
#405
Although the previous team dynamic is nice and all but I still prefer that they split the players into tiers such as
Class A: Killer, Sea, Bisu, JangBi, Movie, Hero, Mind, Amateur
Class B: Mong, sSak, etc. etc.
so on and so forth to divide the players. And then have the Class A players decide on who to pick for their next players by having a 8 man tournament to decide who to pick first and who to pick last. I feel that Sonic is just coercing players to play with each other for sake of their former experiences/glory on same team. The 8 team arrangement should be done more organically so we can witness new dynamics of play style and such. Perhaps they can even name their own team.

But either way, just my 2 cents.
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Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
October 26 2013 17:06 GMT
#406
Just like the tournament I posted then
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
October 26 2013 17:10 GMT
#407
As for the team names, Sonic's idea was that they'll be called ex-XYZ before they (hopefully) find a new sponsor.
En Taro Violet
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
October 26 2013 17:13 GMT
#408
On October 27 2013 02:10 Stratos wrote:
As for the team names, Sonic's idea was that they'll be called ex-XYZ before they (hopefully) find a new sponsor.

Like the last time he tried. PC Family, Sinbal Farm, etc.
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
October 26 2013 17:18 GMT
#409
Oh good, so we don't have to lynch GTR for giving us false hope

I wonder if it would be possible to help him set up some sort of quick kickstarter like thing so he can get some resources from westerners if he needs it.
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Phyanketto
Profile Joined September 2011
United States505 Posts
October 26 2013 17:35 GMT
#410
On October 27 2013 02:04 Xiphos wrote:
Although the previous team dynamic is nice and all but I still prefer that they split the players into tiers such as
Class A: Killer, Sea, Bisu, JangBi, Movie, Hero, Mind, Amateur
Class B: Mong, sSak, etc. etc.
so on and so forth to divide the players. And then have the Class A players decide on who to pick for their next players by having a 8 man tournament to decide who to pick first and who to pick last. I feel that Sonic is just coercing players to play with each other for sake of their former experiences/glory on same team. The 8 team arrangement should be done more organically so we can witness new dynamics of play style and such. Perhaps they can even name their own team.

But either way, just my 2 cents.

I don't know, if you based it on tourney winnings, it probably wouldn't be so bad. But you can't just throw Jangbi, Mind, or Bisu up there and expect people to take it sitting down. Yes, they're really really good, but they haven't proven it in the amateur scene yet.

Either way, I think this is an informal event, so regardless of skill, people would pick their teammates and friends.
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19349 Posts
October 26 2013 17:39 GMT
#411
so, did we just motivate Sonic? :D
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miercat
Profile Joined November 2011
394 Posts
October 26 2013 18:05 GMT
#412
On October 27 2013 02:04 Xiphos wrote:
Although the previous team dynamic is nice and all but I still prefer that they split the players into tiers such as
Class A: Killer, Sea, Bisu, JangBi, Movie, Hero, Mind, Amateur
Class B: Mong, sSak, etc. etc.
so on and so forth to divide the players. And then have the Class A players decide on who to pick for their next players by having a 8 man tournament to decide who to pick first and who to pick last. I feel that Sonic is just coercing players to play with each other for sake of their former experiences/glory on same team. The 8 team arrangement should be done more organically so we can witness new dynamics of play style and such. Perhaps they can even name their own team.

But either way, just my 2 cents.


Actually, keeping the format as close as possible to the previous Proleague format, is probably overall the best decision, for a variety of reasons. For example, it shows the original sponsors, that they were appreciated, allows some of the decisions they made to remain intact, and provides some benefit to them as well. It will also make a transition easier. I'm sure Sonic has considered relevant factors in deciding the format. He has been doing a good job organizing his various events, and improving aspects of the events consistently over time.
snipealot *
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Korea (South)494 Posts
October 26 2013 18:05 GMT
#413
You did motivate sonic yes

It's up to the players now. Sonic will start contacting and confirming players from monday, set a schedule and host a proleague, or rather a team-tournament. It'll be a short one, I don't expect round-robin. Most probably it'll be a bracket system starting from ro8 and maybe having the finals(+perhaps ro4) offline.
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
October 26 2013 18:58 GMT
#414
I'm probably most excited about Sonic Team. I started discovering the amateur scene recently and it's full of fun tournaments and leagues with players who simply play for fun. Sonic picking a few of these under his wings is a good sign of him planning ahead and realizing that he needs to integrate these players into his leagues to motivate more players and get in the fresh blood that will eventually be needed.
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Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
October 26 2013 19:06 GMT
#415
On October 27 2013 03:58 Stratos wrote:
I'm probably most excited about Sonic Team. I started discovering the amateur scene recently and it's full of fun tournaments and leagues with players who simply play for fun. Sonic picking a few of these under his wings is a good sign of him planning ahead and realizing that he needs to integrate these players into his leagues to motivate more players and get in the fresh blood that will eventually be needed.

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Wubbles
Profile Joined May 2010
United States120 Posts
October 26 2013 19:06 GMT
#416
Gogo Hwaseung!

If only we had (P)Jesus and (P)PerfectMan back in action
Badstork
Profile Joined October 2013
Poland6 Posts
October 26 2013 19:37 GMT
#417
OMG im coming back for this... BW FOREVER !
Stork/Bisu/JangBi/mini/Pure are the best <3
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
October 26 2013 22:48 GMT
#418
On October 26 2013 08:07 L_Master wrote:
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On October 26 2013 07:37 Miragee wrote:
YES, fucking yes!

Now Zero, Soulkey and Mvp have to come back and build former Woongjin pls.^^


How about free too?

On October 26 2013 08:23 AssiRoyal wrote:
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On October 26 2013 08:07 L_Master wrote:
On October 26 2013 07:37 Miragee wrote:
YES, fucking yes!

Now Zero, Soulkey and Mvp have to come back and build former Woongjin pls.^^


How about free too?


what about Guemchi?
didnt he wanna go to india for vacation like 2 years ago or sth?
what is he doing atm? does anyone know?


Well, I wasn't to keen on either free nor Guemchi, sorry.^^ Flying would be awesome.
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24580 Posts
October 26 2013 22:49 GMT
#419
God I hope this happens
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5594 Posts
October 27 2013 08:54 GMT
#420
Sonic PL would be great. However, I notice there's one player conspicuously absent from the former CJ line-up. A player unique among e-sports personalities. A Zerg player, well-known for his defiler control, who won his only OSL in 2007. Then a few years later won his last televised game in 2009, played in his last MST in 2009, and shortly after left the scene completely, not just as a player. He still hasn't taken up SC2. I'm talking, of course, about
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