On June 15 2025 17:27 prosatan wrote:
I really believe the Grammy Award for the Song of the Year will go to Nambona!

There isn't any other reasonable option !

AYAYA

I'm disappointed. I thought this would be some AI-generated gem from the stream.

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SKRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

mtcn77

Turkey629 Posts

June 15 2025 20:09 GMT

#9603

On June 15 2025 18:54 Kraekkling wrote:

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finally!!! it's time for him to take his place on the throne

no other player comes even close in regards to unfulfilled potential IMO

That is peak Korean friendship, lol.

_Redbird_

2 Posts

June 16 2025 09:09 GMT

#9604

On June 12 2025 05:56 GTR wrote:
definitely sounds like this game

Thank you very much! Indeed it is!

prosatan

Romania8495 Posts

June 16 2025 09:28 GMT

#9605

Effort (T) vs Killer (P)

Let's watch both streams

Expensive-Law-9830

130 Posts

June 16 2025 11:12 GMT

#9606

JYJ vs Queen just now...

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somehow queen won with 1 mining base vs 3 base terran lol

goody153

44231 Posts

June 17 2025 13:28 GMT

#9607

When did the Hydra-Lurker-Defiler lategame comp vs terran became a thing in the top level ? To the point it seems like they prefer that comp over the ultra-ling-defiler comp I am used to seeing since forever

Ideas

United States8144 Posts

June 17 2025 14:38 GMT

#9608

On June 17 2025 22:28 goody153 wrote:
When did the Hydra-Lurker-Defiler lategame comp vs terran became a thing in the top level ? To the point it seems like they prefer that comp over the ultra-ling-defiler comp I am used to seeing since forever

I want to say it happened around late 2020 when Eclipse entered the map pool for a long time. Since the 3rd is easy to take but it's very hard to take a 4th, players started experimenting more with hydra/defiler. I remember when the map first came out players would mostly do crazy-zerg, but after a few months it seemed that hydra/defiler became norm.

Seems like pros still prefer ultras on standard 4player maps (where it's easy to take another main/nat as 3rd/4th), but not all the time. Not sure exactly what goes into decision-making for why players sometimes choose 1 or the other on those maps though.

goody153

44231 Posts

June 17 2025 15:29 GMT

#9609

On June 17 2025 23:38 Ideas wrote:

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Interesting. I assume they started doing that cause they were looking for a less resource intensive lategame cause of the difficult 4th to get.

I'm surprised that it is now a legit lategame avenue. I thought it was just another niche strat

mtcn77

Turkey629 Posts

June 17 2025 17:41 GMT

#9610

Same as when Jaedong entered a slump losing games vs Flash with hydra-lurker. It gives better staying power in the midgame although I'm still haunted by Jaedong just hanging outside his bridge, wandering left and right. Defilers are a done deal on top of it. However ultralings are like playing the ogre zerg. It is a very late build and you are wasting valuable resources if you use them midgame.

prosatan

Romania8495 Posts

June 17 2025 19:17 GMT

#9611

Movie vs BTS (True) right now!

Too bad they aren't playing on those new ASL maps.....

prosatan

Romania8495 Posts

June 18 2025 13:00 GMT

#9612

JD + Snow vs Rush + Mini on that crazy ums FS map

And we also have a good K league !!

goody153

44231 Posts

June 18 2025 14:15 GMT

#9613

still waiting for that ASL island map to be played and casted lol

prosatan

Romania8495 Posts

June 18 2025 15:26 GMT

#9614

BO 7 between my baby and snow

as soon as i clicked on snows stream + Show Spoiler +

JD ggs

prosatan

Romania8495 Posts

June 18 2025 20:03 GMT

#9615

Again that strange ums map featuring :

Effort + Action vs Calm + Mong

Long live BW !

Ze'ev

137 Posts

June 18 2025 23:20 GMT

#9616

Back from like 2000-2006? I feel like TVT had a lot of goliath drop builds and mass dropship play. Sometimes you will still see big drop ship fleets but thats fallen off. Goliath drop openings seem to have fallen off even further. Could someone explain to me both why goliath drops arent as popular and why mass dropship play in tvt is less common? It feels like (not a terran player) a fast 1 base goliath dropship build would still be capable of doing a lot of damage, even if only at the lower levels.

edit: If I wanted to do an upgrade zergling attack in zvz, would it be more beneficial/viable to get +1 melee attack or carapace? I feel like ive always seen the zerg do melee attack in that scenario.

edit2: https://tl.net/tlpd/korean/games/27232_[z-zone]Byun_vs_ChRh this is a zvz and someone should correct it.