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Kraekkling
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
731 Posts
June 15 2025 09:54 GMT
#9601
On June 15 2025 12:52 tankgirl wrote:
Soma's last day in the military is June 25 ()

I hope we see the return of fly swatter training

[image loading]


finally!!! it's time for him to take his place on the throne

no other player comes even close in regards to unfulfilled potential IMO

(*^^)(^*)
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1470 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-06-15 13:23:40
June 15 2025 13:16 GMT
#9602
On June 15 2025 17:27 prosatan wrote:
I really believe the Grammy Award for the Song of the Year will go to Nambona!

There isn't any other reasonable option !



AYAYA


I'm disappointed. I thought this would be some AI-generated gem from the stream.

+ Show Spoiler +
SKRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey729 Posts
June 15 2025 20:09 GMT
#9603
On June 15 2025 18:54 Kraekkling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2025 12:52 tankgirl wrote:
Soma's last day in the military is June 25 ()

I hope we see the return of fly swatter training

[image loading]


finally!!! it's time for him to take his place on the throne

no other player comes even close in regards to unfulfilled potential IMO


That is peak Korean friendship, lol.
Turrican
_Redbird_
Profile Joined June 2025
2 Posts
June 16 2025 09:09 GMT
#9604
On June 12 2025 05:56 GTR wrote:
definitely sounds like this game



Thank you very much! Indeed it is!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8977 Posts
June 16 2025 09:28 GMT
#9605
Effort (T) vs Killer (P)

Let's watch both streams
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Expensive-Law-9830
Profile Joined April 2024
130 Posts
June 16 2025 11:12 GMT
#9606
JYJ vs Queen just now...

+ Show Spoiler +
somehow queen won with 1 mining base vs 3 base terran lol
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
June 17 2025 13:28 GMT
#9607
When did the Hydra-Lurker-Defiler lategame comp vs terran became a thing in the top level ? To the point it seems like they prefer that comp over the ultra-ling-defiler comp I am used to seeing since forever
this is a quote
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8173 Posts
June 17 2025 14:38 GMT
#9608
On June 17 2025 22:28 goody153 wrote:
When did the Hydra-Lurker-Defiler lategame comp vs terran became a thing in the top level ? To the point it seems like they prefer that comp over the ultra-ling-defiler comp I am used to seeing since forever


I want to say it happened around late 2020 when Eclipse entered the map pool for a long time. Since the 3rd is easy to take but it's very hard to take a 4th, players started experimenting more with hydra/defiler. I remember when the map first came out players would mostly do crazy-zerg, but after a few months it seemed that hydra/defiler became norm.

Seems like pros still prefer ultras on standard 4player maps (where it's easy to take another main/nat as 3rd/4th), but not all the time. Not sure exactly what goes into decision-making for why players sometimes choose 1 or the other on those maps though.
Free Palestine
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
June 17 2025 15:29 GMT
#9609
On June 17 2025 23:38 Ideas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2025 22:28 goody153 wrote:
When did the Hydra-Lurker-Defiler lategame comp vs terran became a thing in the top level ? To the point it seems like they prefer that comp over the ultra-ling-defiler comp I am used to seeing since forever


I want to say it happened around late 2020 when Eclipse entered the map pool for a long time. Since the 3rd is easy to take but it's very hard to take a 4th, players started experimenting more with hydra/defiler. I remember when the map first came out players would mostly do crazy-zerg, but after a few months it seemed that hydra/defiler became norm.

Seems like pros still prefer ultras on standard 4player maps (where it's easy to take another main/nat as 3rd/4th), but not all the time. Not sure exactly what goes into decision-making for why players sometimes choose 1 or the other on those maps though.

Interesting. I assume they started doing that cause they were looking for a less resource intensive lategame cause of the difficult 4th to get.

I'm surprised that it is now a legit lategame avenue. I thought it was just another niche strat
this is a quote
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey729 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-06-17 18:20:12
June 17 2025 17:41 GMT
#9610
Same as when Jaedong entered a slump losing games vs Flash with hydra-lurker. It gives better staying power in the midgame although I'm still haunted by Jaedong just hanging outside his bridge, wandering left and right. Defilers are a done deal on top of it. However ultralings are like playing the ogre zerg. It is a very late build and you are wasting valuable resources if you use them midgame.
Turrican
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8977 Posts
June 17 2025 19:17 GMT
#9611
Movie vs BTS (True) right now!

Too bad they aren't playing on those new ASL maps.....
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8977 Posts
June 18 2025 13:00 GMT
#9612
JD + Snow vs Rush + Mini on that crazy ums FS map

And we also have a good K league !!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44282 Posts
June 18 2025 14:15 GMT
#9613
still waiting for that ASL island map to be played and casted lol
this is a quote
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8977 Posts
June 18 2025 15:26 GMT
#9614
BO 7 between my baby and snow

as soon as i clicked on snows stream + Show Spoiler +
JD ggs
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8977 Posts
June 18 2025 20:03 GMT
#9615
Again that strange ums map featuring :

Effort + Action vs Calm + Mong

Long live BW !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Ze'ev
Profile Joined May 2025
159 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-06-19 04:46:05
June 18 2025 23:20 GMT
#9616
Back from like 2000-2006? I feel like TVT had a lot of goliath drop builds and mass dropship play. Sometimes you will still see big drop ship fleets but thats fallen off. Goliath drop openings seem to have fallen off even further. Could someone explain to me both why goliath drops arent as popular and why mass dropship play in tvt is less common? It feels like (not a terran player) a fast 1 base goliath dropship build would still be capable of doing a lot of damage, even if only at the lower levels.

edit: If I wanted to do an upgrade zergling attack in zvz, would it be more beneficial/viable to get +1 melee attack or carapace? I feel like ive always seen the zerg do melee attack in that scenario.

edit2: https://tl.net/tlpd/korean/games/27232_[z-zone]Byun_vs_ChRh this is a zvz and someone should correct it.

prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8977 Posts
June 19 2025 09:27 GMT
#9617
Snow vs Fantasy ???????

Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8977 Posts
June 19 2025 09:30 GMT
#9618
Flash is back streaming!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8977 Posts
June 19 2025 09:33 GMT
#9619
And we have KCM right now

sSak , royal , rush (T)

tulbo , stork , snow (P)

JD , action , sk (Z)

+ Show Spoiler +
first game JD won vs Tulbo hurrayyyyyyyyy !!!

Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8977 Posts
June 19 2025 09:58 GMT
#9620
Flash vs Effort in a BO 3 !!!!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
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