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Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway772 Posts
June 05 2025 09:47 GMT
#9561
Check out this blast from the past:


Starts at 4 minutes
Ze'ev
Profile Joined May 2025
159 Posts
June 05 2025 21:10 GMT
#9562
There used to be a FPVOD of Boxer vs Byun in the 1st Game-Q Starleague on lost temple, it was from 2000. It was an amazing game where Byun took a massive advantage over boxer with a lurker rush and mass expanded and Boxer pulled off a clinic with dropship harassment slowly picking off expansions/defending against ultras, mass mutas and guardians to eventually win the game (at one point its 1 base vs 5 or something crazy). I was hoping someone would still have the vod somewhere? I cant find it anywhere.
Peeano
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Netherlands5823 Posts
June 06 2025 01:30 GMT
#9563
On June 06 2025 06:10 Ze'ev wrote:
There used to be a FPVOD of Boxer vs Byun in the 1st Game-Q Starleague on lost temple, it was from 2000. It was an amazing game where Byun took a massive advantage over boxer with a lurker rush and mass expanded and Boxer pulled off a clinic with dropship harassment slowly picking off expansions/defending against ultras, mass mutas and guardians to eventually win the game (at one point its 1 base vs 5 or something crazy). I was hoping someone would still have the vod somewhere? I cant find it anywhere.

FBH #1!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9194 Posts
June 06 2025 08:41 GMT
#9564
Effort vs Royal and Leta vs True right now !!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
tankgirl
Profile Blog Joined May 2016
Canada523 Posts
June 06 2025 13:02 GMT
#9565
according to liquipedia "no workers of any race can deal damage under Dark Swarm, as their attacks are not classed as melee"

but in video below it looks like a zergling dies to probe under swarm?

(spoiler snow vs soulkey asl 19)

+ Show Spoiler [tastosis youtube] +


https://tl.net/forum/brood-war/627255-progamer-settings
TL+ Member
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway772 Posts
June 06 2025 13:04 GMT
#9566
I thought it was only SCVs that didnt deal dmg?
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey729 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-06-06 18:37:03
June 06 2025 13:16 GMT
#9567
On June 06 2025 22:02 tankgirl wrote:
according to liquipedia "no workers of any race can deal damage under Dark Swarm, as their attacks are not classed as melee"

but in video below it looks like a zergling dies to probe under swarm?

(spoiler snow vs soulkey asl 19)

+ Show Spoiler [tastosis youtube] +
https://youtu.be/uuzfZ_K_nmM?t=5466



Wrong, any unit can deal any amount of damage. The trick is finding two units back to back with +1 distance between them. Then, you can attack the front unit by targetting the one behind.
PS: come to think about it SCVs shouldn't be able to do it with 100 range. Probes and drones should with 128. However 128 pixels count as +1 range in game, so it could be difficult targeting a mineral first in order to move over an enemy unit to attack it by targetting the one behind when right on top of it like a mineral jump.
Turrican
Ze'ev
Profile Joined May 2025
159 Posts
June 06 2025 16:20 GMT
#9568
On June 06 2025 10:30 Peeano wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2025 06:10 Ze'ev wrote:
There used to be a FPVOD of Boxer vs Byun in the 1st Game-Q Starleague on lost temple, it was from 2000. It was an amazing game where Byun took a massive advantage over boxer with a lurker rush and mass expanded and Boxer pulled off a clinic with dropship harassment slowly picking off expansions/defending against ultras, mass mutas and guardians to eventually win the game (at one point its 1 base vs 5 or something crazy). I was hoping someone would still have the vod somewhere? I cant find it anywhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LTEIRVwIfo
THANK YOU. I used to have this vod on my computer and its honestly my favorite game.
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway772 Posts
June 06 2025 21:37 GMT
#9569
On June 06 2025 22:16 mtcn77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2025 22:02 tankgirl wrote:
according to liquipedia "no workers of any race can deal damage under Dark Swarm, as their attacks are not classed as melee"

but in video below it looks like a zergling dies to probe under swarm?

(spoiler snow vs soulkey asl 19)

+ Show Spoiler [tastosis youtube] +
https://youtu.be/uuzfZ_K_nmM?t=5466



Wrong, any unit can deal any amount of damage. The trick is finding two units back to back with +1 distance between them. Then, you can attack the front unit by targetting the one behind.
PS: come to think about it SCVs shouldn't be able to do it with 100 range. Probes and drones should with 128. However 128 pixels count as +1 range in game, so it could be difficult targeting a mineral first in order to move over an enemy unit to attack it by targetting the one behind when right on top of it like a mineral jump.

You sure about that? I thought it just made all ranged attack miss.
Probes and drones are melee and unaffected whilst SCVs for some reason are classified as ranged attack.
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey729 Posts
June 06 2025 22:31 GMT
#9570
On June 07 2025 06:37 Timebon3s wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2025 22:16 mtcn77 wrote:
On June 06 2025 22:02 tankgirl wrote:
according to liquipedia "no workers of any race can deal damage under Dark Swarm, as their attacks are not classed as melee"

but in video below it looks like a zergling dies to probe under swarm?

(spoiler snow vs soulkey asl 19)

+ Show Spoiler [tastosis youtube] +
https://youtu.be/uuzfZ_K_nmM?t=5466



Wrong, any unit can deal any amount of damage. The trick is finding two units back to back with +1 distance between them. Then, you can attack the front unit by targetting the one behind.
PS: come to think about it SCVs shouldn't be able to do it with 100 range. Probes and drones should with 128. However 128 pixels count as +1 range in game, so it could be difficult targeting a mineral first in order to move over an enemy unit to attack it by targetting the one behind when right on top of it like a mineral jump.

You sure about that? I thought it just made all ranged attack miss.
Probes and drones are melee and unaffected whilst SCVs for some reason are classified as ranged attack.

I tried it on Kel-Morian Combine BW mission with hydralisks. No reason why it shouldn't work, but there is a huge if considering you need to issue the attack command after a gather command to a nearby mineral. I'm guessing you aren't doing some crazy cross map switches the pros do on Death Valley. I'm still unsure the level of screen switching needed to bypass a probe over two zerglings across the vespene gas ramp.
Turrican
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway772 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-06-06 23:17:04
June 06 2025 23:16 GMT
#9571
Ok cheers, another thing about bw I didn’t know lol
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway772 Posts
June 07 2025 05:23 GMT
#9572
Ok I’ll stop spamming the thread with retro games, but do you remember this game???? Wooow dude
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9194 Posts
June 07 2025 06:05 GMT
#9573
On June 07 2025 14:23 Timebon3s wrote:
Ok I’ll stop spamming the thread with retro games, but do you remember this game???? Wooow dude https://youtu.be/MZB5Ar0YT6M?si=KdGon0LMSNao5HkJ

Of course
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2163 Posts
June 08 2025 09:39 GMT
#9574
On June 04 2025 15:49 prosatan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2025 13:44 Simplistik wrote:
On June 04 2025 00:18 prosatan wrote:
Please watch Shuttle vs hero !! PvZ of the year !

In todays proleague i mean !

Better than the crazy ASL games?!

Yes !!

Here it is !



That is a great game, but somehow it didn't have the drama of an ASL bracket stage. I guess the stakes were lower.
Very impressed by + Show Spoiler +
Shuttle
though!
Dear BW Gods, it IS now autumn, so...
mtcn77
Profile Joined September 2013
Turkey729 Posts
June 08 2025 12:02 GMT
#9575
On June 08 2025 18:39 Simplistik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2025 15:49 prosatan wrote:
On June 04 2025 13:44 Simplistik wrote:
On June 04 2025 00:18 prosatan wrote:
Please watch Shuttle vs hero !! PvZ of the year !

In todays proleague i mean !

Better than the crazy ASL games?!

Yes !!

Here it is !


https://youtu.be/_sSYDw4JIQw?t=8003

That is a great game, but somehow it didn't have the drama of an ASL bracket stage. I guess the stakes were lower.
Very impressed by + Show Spoiler +
Shuttle
though!

+ Show Spoiler +
Shuttle
is always impressive. + Show Spoiler +
Shuttle
fans!
Turrican
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9194 Posts
June 09 2025 09:41 GMT
#9576
Rush vs Mini in a BO 7 right now !
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44297 Posts
June 10 2025 01:30 GMT
#9577
https://www.youtube.com/@HomeofStarcraft/videos

Found another broodwar channel posting pro povs in matches. Pretty nice
this is a quote
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9194 Posts
June 10 2025 03:46 GMT
#9578


Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9194 Posts
June 10 2025 03:47 GMT
#9579
On June 10 2025 10:30 goody153 wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/@HomeofStarcraft/videos

Found another broodwar channel posting pro povs in matches. Pretty nice


How could i forgot about this channel! I subscribed to it also ...
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania9194 Posts
June 10 2025 10:27 GMT
#9580
All pros are "busy" watching those university games ...

Luckily we have Best vs Zero in a BO 7
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
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