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Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
March 09 2025 21:31 GMT
#9401
i connect to kor servers and its 30k active. latency isnt terrible for me since im hawaii based
Skol
WaterSerpentM
Profile Joined November 2018
United Kingdom139 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-03-10 01:34:58
March 09 2025 23:55 GMT
#9402
On March 09 2025 13:16 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2025 04:10 WaterSerpentM wrote:
hey, what's been going on around here

Don't ask, being cognizant is not your style


talking about my guide maybe?

I have to admit, maybe my elaborations for the techniques might not have been the most accurate:

But, These are all the techniques;
What is a technique: a core action to excel at a skill


Army: Use front units backed up with ranged units.
Power Up: Upgrade Army Stats
Scouting: however you would describe it
Fortressing: standing your ground or creating map control
Support: simply using units such as defiler etc
Poking: you guys call this harass
Rendezvous: basically retreating units to be backed up for better army
Drops: ye you know this

Elaborate however you think is right

Also, I am not saying this is everything about the skill, there are other knowledge and tactics(a sub technique), but the core are the msot important
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8976 Posts
March 10 2025 05:27 GMT
#9403
Cute JD!

Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51650 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-03-11 01:24:44
March 10 2025 11:23 GMT
#9404
can you believe after 27 years of this game, there are pro tournaments and maps from over 20 years ago that i only have found out about today?

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBw1ny_g1m-bcrhNM88Jl0iIzEI4KnGLx

OGN hosted a female starleague that had the following maps: Arachne, The Craters, Mark of Sanctuary, Fragile and Drake Lord (Blaze and Avon Garde were the other two but were also used in the OSL). notable figures participating in this tournament include january (the samsung khan head coach) and spring (former gomtv/gsl caster).
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Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6777 Posts
March 10 2025 14:49 GMT
#9405
Woah, this seems to be pre-Tossgirl?
Graphics
CHEONSOYUN
Profile Joined August 2017
606 Posts
March 10 2025 21:04 GMT
#9406
On March 10 2025 20:23 GTR wrote:
can you believe after 27 years of this game, there are pro tournaments and maps from 20 years ago that i only have found out about today?

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBw1ny_g1m-bcrhNM88Jl0iIzEI4KnGLx

OGN hosted a female starleague that had the following maps: Arachne, The Craters, Mark of Sanctuary, Fragile and Drake Lord (Blaze and Avon Garde were the other two but were also used in the OSL). notable figures participating in this tournament include january (the samsung khan head coach) and spring (former gomtv/gsl caster).


i believe it

no single soul can truly know all of bw
JAEDONG...!!! EFFORT IS ANGRY. ZERG...?!
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8976 Posts
March 14 2025 09:02 GMT
#9407
Guys, can you log in on Battle net ?? I get error 6.3 ......
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8976 Posts
March 17 2025 10:33 GMT
#9408
Flash vs Best right now! Flash has the upper hand
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8976 Posts
March 17 2025 10:33 GMT
#9409
pfff .. as soon as i typed this, flash ggs,,,
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
prosatan
Profile Joined September 2009
Romania8976 Posts
March 17 2025 12:18 GMT
#9410
FLASH VS JAEDONG RIGHT NOW !!!!!
Lee JaeDong Fighting! The only church that illuminates is the one that burns.
chuDr3t4
Profile Joined April 2010
Russian Federation484 Posts
March 20 2025 19:03 GMT
#9411
On March 10 2025 08:55 WaterSerpentM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2025 13:16 Jealous wrote:
On March 09 2025 04:10 WaterSerpentM wrote:
hey, what's been going on around here

Don't ask, being cognizant is not your style


talking about my guide maybe?

I have to admit, maybe my elaborations for the techniques might not have been the most accurate:

But, These are all the techniques;
What is a technique: a core action to excel at a skill


Army: Use front units backed up with ranged units.
Power Up: Upgrade Army Stats
Scouting: however you would describe it
Fortressing: standing your ground or creating map control
Support: simply using units such as defiler etc
Poking: you guys call this harass
Rendezvous: basically retreating units to be backed up for better army
Drops: ye you know this

Elaborate however you think is right

Also, I am not saying this is everything about the skill, there are other knowledge and tactics(a sub technique), but the core are the msot important


I just want to note, in 2018 IN THIS THREAD (tl.net) we had quite a discussion about SC:R ladder system, amount of maps, amount of bans, and I made 2 arguements and they went unanswered because you showed up in that exact moment with your Mastery system and explanations.

And 6.5 years later, they are still unanswered and you are still here, and I find that amusing.
I live in Russia. I wear the fufaika, valenoks and the shapka-ushanka with the red star. I drink vodka straight from the samovar, and my riding bear plays on the balalaika.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13430 Posts
March 21 2025 01:12 GMT
#9412
Anyone have any stats on PvT at the top levels recently?

Terrans seem to be having a very hard time winning against the mass shuttle/storm play style. Curious if the stats back that up or just bias from the games I’ve seen recently.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
TMNT
Profile Joined January 2021
3247 Posts
March 22 2025 21:13 GMT
#9413
On March 21 2025 10:12 RowdierBob wrote:
Anyone have any stats on PvT at the top levels recently?

Terrans seem to be having a very hard time winning against the mass shuttle/storm play style. Curious if the stats back that up or just bias from the games I’ve seen recently.

Not sure about what the recent stats are, but that style has been in play for at least 5 years, so if you saw Terran having a hard time recently with it, it's probably just from the selected games you've seen.
WaterSerpentM
Profile Joined November 2018
United Kingdom139 Posts
March 26 2025 21:16 GMT
#9414
On March 21 2025 04:03 chuDr3t4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2025 08:55 WaterSerpentM wrote:
On March 09 2025 13:16 Jealous wrote:
On March 09 2025 04:10 WaterSerpentM wrote:
hey, what's been going on around here

Don't ask, being cognizant is not your style


talking about my guide maybe?

I have to admit, maybe my elaborations for the techniques might not have been the most accurate:

But, These are all the techniques;
What is a technique: a core action to excel at a skill


Army: Use front units backed up with ranged units.
Power Up: Upgrade Army Stats
Scouting: however you would describe it
Fortressing: standing your ground or creating map control
Support: simply using units such as defiler etc
Poking: you guys call this harass
Rendezvous: basically retreating units to be backed up for better army
Drops: ye you know this

Elaborate however you think is right

Also, I am not saying this is everything about the skill, there are other knowledge and tactics(a sub technique), but the core are the msot important


I just want to note, in 2018 IN THIS THREAD (tl.net) we had quite a discussion about SC:R ladder system, amount of maps, amount of bans, and I made 2 arguements and they went unanswered because you showed up in that exact moment with your Mastery system and explanations.

And 6.5 years later, they are still unanswered and you are still here, and I find that amusing.


what questions do you want to be answered ?
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3703 Posts
March 26 2025 22:05 GMT
#9415
On March 27 2025 06:16 WaterSerpentM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2025 04:03 chuDr3t4 wrote:
On March 10 2025 08:55 WaterSerpentM wrote:
On March 09 2025 13:16 Jealous wrote:
On March 09 2025 04:10 WaterSerpentM wrote:
hey, what's been going on around here

Don't ask, being cognizant is not your style


talking about my guide maybe?

I have to admit, maybe my elaborations for the techniques might not have been the most accurate:

But, These are all the techniques;
What is a technique: a core action to excel at a skill


Army: Use front units backed up with ranged units.
Power Up: Upgrade Army Stats
Scouting: however you would describe it
Fortressing: standing your ground or creating map control
Support: simply using units such as defiler etc
Poking: you guys call this harass
Rendezvous: basically retreating units to be backed up for better army
Drops: ye you know this

Elaborate however you think is right

Also, I am not saying this is everything about the skill, there are other knowledge and tactics(a sub technique), but the core are the msot important


I just want to note, in 2018 IN THIS THREAD (tl.net) we had quite a discussion about SC:R ladder system, amount of maps, amount of bans, and I made 2 arguements and they went unanswered because you showed up in that exact moment with your Mastery system and explanations.

And 6.5 years later, they are still unanswered and you are still here, and I find that amusing.


what questions do you want to be answered ?


He legit linked you the post that includes the questions.

Ignore that though, please explain again what fortressing is.
RJBTVYOUTUBE
Profile Joined December 2023
Netherlands1266 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-03-27 02:14:39
March 27 2025 02:12 GMT
#9416
On March 23 2025 06:13 TMNT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2025 10:12 RowdierBob wrote:
Anyone have any stats on PvT at the top levels recently?

Terrans seem to be having a very hard time winning against the mass shuttle/storm play style. Curious if the stats back that up or just bias from the games I’ve seen recently.

Not sure about what the recent stats are, but that style has been in play for at least 5 years, so if you saw Terran having a hard time recently with it, it's probably just from the selected games you've seen.

ackchually, its a little over 4 years. Best brought it into play at the end of 2020 in november. He was near unbeatable vs terrans for a good two months. its specifically terrans struggling against the fast expo tosses now.
JDON MY SOUL!
WaterSerpentM
Profile Joined November 2018
United Kingdom139 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-03-27 08:50:16
March 27 2025 08:49 GMT
#9417
On March 27 2025 07:05 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2025 06:16 WaterSerpentM wrote:
On March 21 2025 04:03 chuDr3t4 wrote:
On March 10 2025 08:55 WaterSerpentM wrote:
On March 09 2025 13:16 Jealous wrote:
On March 09 2025 04:10 WaterSerpentM wrote:
hey, what's been going on around here

Don't ask, being cognizant is not your style


talking about my guide maybe?

I have to admit, maybe my elaborations for the techniques might not have been the most accurate:

But, These are all the techniques;
What is a technique: a core action to excel at a skill


Army: Use front units backed up with ranged units.
Power Up: Upgrade Army Stats
Scouting: however you would describe it
Fortressing: standing your ground or creating map control
Support: simply using units such as defiler etc
Poking: you guys call this harass
Rendezvous: basically retreating units to be backed up for better army
Drops: ye you know this

Elaborate however you think is right

Also, I am not saying this is everything about the skill, there are other knowledge and tactics(a sub technique), but the core are the most important


I just want to note, in 2018 IN THIS THREAD (tl.net) we had quite a discussion about SC:R ladder system, amount of maps, amount of bans, and I made 2 arguements and they went unanswered because you showed up in that exact moment with your Mastery system and explanations.

And 6.5 years later, they are still unanswered and you are still here, and I find that amusing.


what questions do you want to be answered ?


He legit linked you the post that includes the questions.

Ignore that though, please explain again what fortressing is.


fortressing is: creating map control: example

Terran using siege tanks and Goliath to create a territory where the opponent cannot get past

it can be used to block in or defend areas


I've seen players do this with siege tanks and missile turrets
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44195 Posts
March 27 2025 13:56 GMT
#9418
On March 27 2025 17:49 WaterSerpentM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2025 07:05 Lorch wrote:
On March 27 2025 06:16 WaterSerpentM wrote:
On March 21 2025 04:03 chuDr3t4 wrote:
On March 10 2025 08:55 WaterSerpentM wrote:
On March 09 2025 13:16 Jealous wrote:
On March 09 2025 04:10 WaterSerpentM wrote:
hey, what's been going on around here

Don't ask, being cognizant is not your style


talking about my guide maybe?

I have to admit, maybe my elaborations for the techniques might not have been the most accurate:

But, These are all the techniques;
What is a technique: a core action to excel at a skill


Army: Use front units backed up with ranged units.
Power Up: Upgrade Army Stats
Scouting: however you would describe it
Fortressing: standing your ground or creating map control
Support: simply using units such as defiler etc
Poking: you guys call this harass
Rendezvous: basically retreating units to be backed up for better army
Drops: ye you know this

Elaborate however you think is right

Also, I am not saying this is everything about the skill, there are other knowledge and tactics(a sub technique), but the core are the most important


I just want to note, in 2018 IN THIS THREAD (tl.net) we had quite a discussion about SC:R ladder system, amount of maps, amount of bans, and I made 2 arguements and they went unanswered because you showed up in that exact moment with your Mastery system and explanations.

And 6.5 years later, they are still unanswered and you are still here, and I find that amusing.


what questions do you want to be answered ?


He legit linked you the post that includes the questions.

Ignore that though, please explain again what fortressing is.


fortressing is: creating map control: example

Terran using siege tanks and Goliath to create a territory where the opponent cannot get past

it can be used to block in or defend areas


I've seen players do this with siege tanks and missile turrets

I’ve seen Protoss players build photon cannons too. It is definitely a strategy.
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19228 Posts
March 27 2025 15:58 GMT
#9419
I saw an Arbiter once
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51650 Posts
April 01 2025 03:54 GMT
#9420
looks like bisu will be returning to streaming tonight.

Thank you to all the fans who cheered me on
I came back from hell..
I'm feeling better now
I had some personal things I couldn't talk about
I'm sorry for not leaving a notice
Tomorrow is April Fool's Day by chance;;
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