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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10288 Posts
October 29 2019 00:40 GMT
#6221
On October 29 2019 09:22 evilfatsh1t wrote:
no, kalent is correct. larva mistook the deadline for another date and he didnt apply

WHY ARE YOU MAKING THINGS UP WTF
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50641 Posts
October 29 2019 03:56 GMT
#6222
I'd believe it.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8819 Posts
October 29 2019 09:26 GMT
#6223
On October 29 2019 12:56 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I'd believe it.

i believe jealous was being sarcastic? pretty hard to tell with that guy tbh
juvenal
Profile Joined July 2013
2448 Posts
October 30 2019 14:58 GMT
#6224
The caps lock is there as a replacement for the tasteless '/s'
Michael Probu
outscar
Profile Joined September 2014
2832 Posts
November 01 2019 21:46 GMT
#6225
So there is no Blizzcon for BW this year? KSL vs. ASL could be neat because we could see FlaSh... not gonna happen.
sunbeams are never made like me...
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10288 Posts
November 02 2019 06:17 GMT
#6226
On November 02 2019 06:46 outscar wrote:
So there is no Blizzcon for BW this year? KSL vs. ASL could be neat because we could see FlaSh... not gonna happen.

Really upsetting TBH.
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
November 02 2019 07:37 GMT
#6227
On November 02 2019 06:46 outscar wrote:
So there is no Blizzcon for BW this year? KSL vs. ASL could be neat because we could see FlaSh... not gonna happen.


I think we can be happy enough that we got remastered. No shame in putting BW on the shelf now.
-.-
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1448 Posts
November 02 2019 20:33 GMT
#6228
On November 02 2019 16:37 MeSaber wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2019 06:46 outscar wrote:
So there is no Blizzcon for BW this year? KSL vs. ASL could be neat because we could see FlaSh... not gonna happen.


I think we can be happy enough that we got remastered. No shame in putting BW on the shelf now.


Shame on you.

+ Show Spoiler +


+ Show Spoiler +
jk

+ Show Spoiler +




MeSaber
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden1235 Posts
November 02 2019 23:11 GMT
#6229
Still waiting for D2 remastered :/
-.-
WaterSerpentM
Profile Joined November 2018
United Kingdom139 Posts
November 03 2019 11:56 GMT
#6230
anyone want a match?
ppp87
Profile Joined May 2016
Laos251 Posts
November 03 2019 12:09 GMT
#6231
Is there any other sport where some players cant compete in events because of their sponsors ?
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8819 Posts
November 04 2019 06:20 GMT
#6232
On November 03 2019 21:09 ppp87 wrote:
Is there any other sport where some players cant compete in events because of their sponsors ?

no but there are other jobs that prohibit you from doing things in conflict with your company/sponsor.
thats whats applying to bisu, flash etc
it has nothing to do with the fact that theyre playing starcraft (although they got partner contracts by being popular due to starcraft). it has everything to do with the fact that they are streamers on a specific platform and they cant go and stream on a different platform and give revenue to a competitor
Highgamer
Profile Joined October 2015
1448 Posts
November 04 2019 10:57 GMT
#6233
Imagine Afreeca scandal-crushes and they all come to Twitch.

Bad for them, good for us, then prolly also bad for us.

They'd probably pick YT anyway.
AntiHack
Profile Joined January 2009
Switzerland553 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-04 16:51:31
November 04 2019 12:54 GMT
#6234
Look at the Korean launcher how rich of contents it is. I'm kind of jelous o.o

[image loading]
"I am very tired of your grammar errors" - Zoler[MB]
AntiHack
Profile Joined January 2009
Switzerland553 Posts
November 04 2019 12:56 GMT
#6235
On November 04 2019 19:57 Highgamer wrote:
Imagine Afreeca scandal-crushes and they all come to Twitch.

Bad for them, good for us, then prolly also bad for us.

They'd probably pick YT anyway.

The only thing I like about AfreecaTV is that it keeps the scene independent from Blizzard
"I am very tired of your grammar errors" - Zoler[MB]
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3691 Posts
November 04 2019 13:05 GMT
#6236
I know it's not exactly the same thing, but something like this has happened before in eSports:
Way before Riot took full control of the League scene, they forced tournament organizers to drop any smaller game they viewed as competition. Dreamhack, for example, was once unable to do a Bloodline Champions tournament, because Riot basically told them they could not have League if they decided to run Bloodline Champions. Kespa also killed the GomTV Starleagues by pulling out one team after the other.

@Highgamer: Afreeca crashing would be the biggest blow to BW since the Kespa SC2 switch. Compared to that, the Sonic scandal was nothing. Afreeca is a big part of why BW was able to survive when everyone went to SC2 and they even stepped in to run a Starleague when we lost SSL. Most eSports nowadays would collapse if the devs pulled out, but thanks to Afreeca BW would be just fine if Blizz dropped KSL. I highly doubt Youtube or Twitch would give the same support to BW that Afreeca is...
AntiHack
Profile Joined January 2009
Switzerland553 Posts
November 04 2019 16:50 GMT
#6237
On November 04 2019 22:05 Lorch wrote:
I know it's not exactly the same thing, but something like this has happened before in eSports:
Way before Riot took full control of the League scene, they forced tournament organizers to drop any smaller game they viewed as competition. Dreamhack, for example, was once unable to do a Bloodline Champions tournament, because Riot basically told them they could not have League if they decided to run Bloodline Champions. Kespa also killed the GomTV Starleagues by pulling out one team after the other.

@Highgamer: Afreeca crashing would be the biggest blow to BW since the Kespa SC2 switch. Compared to that, the Sonic scandal was nothing. Afreeca is a big part of why BW was able to survive when everyone went to SC2 and they even stepped in to run a Starleague when we lost SSL. Most eSports nowadays would collapse if the devs pulled out, but thanks to Afreeca BW would be just fine if Blizz dropped KSL. I highly doubt Youtube or Twitch would give the same support to BW that Afreeca is...

Makes ne think that If the scene moves to Twitch for whatever reason, pro teams and a kespa-like org should come back because we would be missing a huge events organiser that sustain his initiatives from streams subscriptions and donations.

*Events, including the extremely important amateur tournaments
"I am very tired of your grammar errors" - Zoler[MB]
Nematocyst
Profile Joined October 2017
United States164 Posts
November 04 2019 17:34 GMT
#6238
I got interested in BW a few years ago because of Twitch, but I moved over quickly to AfreecaTV once I discovered it. AfreecaTV has had a few hiccups (had required flash, frequent lag, spoilers on thumbnails), but it also constantly improves. That they provide English translations and casts speaks volumes about their dedication to the game, esp when you realize some of the top players aren't aware of any BW popularity (fan popularity) outside Korea. Twitch right now, pales in comparison.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8166 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-04 18:23:48
November 04 2019 18:23 GMT
#6239
Afreeca seems like a great gig for popular players, but I worry about players that are really skilled but have a very small viewership. Based only on what TL tells me about concurrent viewers so probably total bullshit: Viewership seems very very top heavy: flash/bisu get 1000s of veiwers all the time, but then a lower tier player like mini/snow only get a few hundred on average, and then lower than than only a couple dozen tops (forgg, shine, jaehoon).

It doesn't really seem any better than kespa in terms of supporting lower tier players, but then they also aren't forced to play 10+ hours a day for no pay.
Free Palestine
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
November 04 2019 18:40 GMT
#6240
On November 04 2019 19:57 Highgamer wrote:
Imagine Afreeca scandal-crushes and they all come to Twitch.

Bad for them, good for us, then prolly also bad for us.

They'd probably pick YT anyway.

If Afreeca crashes, you can say goodbye to the Korean BW scene. Afreeca has been extremely important for helping keeping things going. Early on, a lot of the expros streamed on Afreeca than we got SSL etc... These pros barely get viewers on twitch, but they get lots on Afreeca and it makes sense when you consider BW's popularity.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
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