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intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-25 15:22:47
December 25 2006 15:21 GMT
#841
oh come on gi give us some credit
our use of those spells were sick, we planned it out and timed it - invincibility to mass retreat as soon as we saw you choose a hero (meaning you wouldn't be able to stop it)

if intentionally planned out (my microers chose units that could deal damage quickly in invincibility) and coupled with luck (your base layout, you not expecting it at all) i think it can be 'imbalanced,' but by themselves i doubt they can do that much damage (or at least not more than a pair of hero dark archons, danimoth, kerrigan, etc)

you're just complaining about losing that one game. i doubt you'll see someone pick those spells over the standard hero very often. if you had watched too, your microers wasted their own heroes that could have also done a lot more damage.

(and you weren't doing 10x better. i never pvp and so we were behind but not as badly as you'd like to think. both at one base, were we?)
Moderatorsloppy little slug
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 25 2006 16:59 GMT
#842
Rep of TMM game

AELLYN = intrigue
Zlot10Million = Locked

Early on, the game was definitely not in favor of either team. The two macro'er (intrigue and GI) were roughly on equal playing field. GI's team had more of an advantage in terms of Zlot10Million being constantly in first place for points than GI's macro compared to AELLYN's macro. In the end, I think most of us got tired and intrigue's team made better use of the level bonuses.

But more importantly, it's one game... totally not worth complaining about. TMM acts two fold: to help improve micro and more importantly, to be a fun UMS. TMM is not a tool to measure skill, so try not to say we played 10 times worse than you.

If anything, I can comfortably say intrigue, geometry, and I lucked out in the end. GI and his team had blocked intrigue's attempts to expand and we realized that selecting to get a few heroes would not turn the game in our favor. So we settled to do invincibility at the end, attack, and hope for the best in our micro ability. But in my dumb, yet serendipitous choice, my civilian landed on the "mass retreat" ability and we actually won as a result.

Most TMM games don't even last that long for people to get "mass attack", "mass retreat", "invincibility". I would say Bill has done a very good job balancing the earlier bonuses. These late game bonuses, most people don't even reach (this game was my first time), so say less about the balance and just have fun with the abilities and the game itself.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-26 00:27:26
December 26 2006 00:26 GMT
#843
i didn't say i was doing 10x better (i said you COULD beat someone doing 10x better), and we were definitely even going into the final battle

i just don't think those bonuses are fun cause it's hella annoying to try and click all your units out of your base =(
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32281 Posts
December 26 2006 01:21 GMT
#844
BY.TESTIE YOU LEFT THE SERVER
Moderator<:3-/-<
ToT)Testie(
Profile Joined September 2006
Canada723 Posts
December 26 2006 04:40 GMT
#845
Ahem, common guys.

Really hard to play TMM by myself over here.
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
December 26 2006 05:58 GMT
#846
neoillusions
this rep is bigger then 2 megabytes :D
alltime sc record
And all is illuminated.
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
December 26 2006 06:14 GMT
#847
could someone explain the rules of this ums to me?
i see that there are two players who play an almost normal melee game against each other
then there are only micro players? or what
And all is illuminated.
Yogurt
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States4258 Posts
December 26 2006 06:28 GMT
#848
everyone to tl west gogo
ok dont not so good something is something ok ok ok gogogo
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
December 26 2006 06:34 GMT
#849
i'll be on.. soon
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32281 Posts
December 26 2006 08:02 GMT
#850
On December 26 2006 15:14 freelander wrote:
could someone explain the rules of this ums to me?
i see that there are two players who play an almost normal melee game against each other
then there are only micro players? or what


Yeah the other micro and get points so they get better units.
Moderator<:3-/-<
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 26 2006 09:43 GMT
#851
On December 26 2006 14:58 freelander wrote:
neoillusions
this rep is bigger then 2 megabytes :D
alltime sc record


Yah, I have all the PenguinPlug features turned on and the game was over an hour long I think. T_T;
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9935 Posts
December 26 2006 10:51 GMT
#852
aw crap neo now everyone can see how shitty my macro is =(((
i just watched it, i think we actually were up going into the last battle
Moderatorsloppy little slug
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
December 27 2006 04:28 GMT
#853
On December 26 2006 18:43 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2006 14:58 freelander wrote:
neoillusions
this rep is bigger then 2 megabytes :D
alltime sc record


Yah, I have all the PenguinPlug features turned on and the game was over an hour long I think. T_T;


Best part was how this was after the 1:30 game that ended when our side picked pure goon in a ZvZ and just took out the hatchery immediately. No dancing around, no maneuvering - just moving straight across the map and attacking the buildings.

On December 26 2006 19:51 intrigue wrote:
aw crap neo now everyone can see how shitty my macro is =(((
i just watched it, i think we actually were up going into the last battle


What about everyone seeing me and my even worse macro? =(
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
Loveletter
Profile Joined November 2006
United States543 Posts
December 27 2006 05:05 GMT
#854
So is this channel for 1;1 gaming too o_O
DotA 2 - peteyyytran/IRONBRAH add me for inhouse games/pub games
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32281 Posts
December 27 2006 06:04 GMT
#855
Yes <:·3
Moderator<:3-/-<
ToT)Testie(
Profile Joined September 2006
Canada723 Posts
December 27 2006 07:48 GMT
#856
We're TMMing right now.

Just letting anyone interested know.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
December 28 2006 14:24 GMT
#857
Do any pgt olympic players want to game? You don't have to be olympic but close to that would be nice
LetMeBeWithYou
Profile Joined August 2004
Canada4254 Posts
December 28 2006 14:44 GMT
#858
I've just gotten Starcraft back after few years of absence, who wants to get WRECKED.
All Those beneath an angry star
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-12-29 09:28:02
December 29 2006 09:27 GMT
#859
We be needing people for TMM . (1 more at the moment)

There are also some people in ocr/ocr doing whatever.
BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
December 29 2006 10:15 GMT
#860
I'm comming, give me a minute.
If you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans.
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